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Old 26 August 2013, 05:57 PM
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Default Cheapest places to source engine rebuild parts.

Hi guys, hopefully this will make sense.

Rather than going straight to Roger Clarke and spunking lots of money out, where have you found companies that supply the quality parts for the cheapest price??

Engine is a EJ20G, 1995 WRX, Semi Closed Deck, Fully forged pistons/rods etc, 0.50 oversize pistons. Off the top of my head, so could be slightly out lol.

I'm after;

ARP head studs.
ACL/Cometic H/G.
Gates Racing Kevlar timing belt kit.


Cheapest I've managed to find the ARP Studs is £156 delivered, including the special lube used, all new and sealed in the box. Part Code ARP260-4701.
Anyone know somewhere cheaper??

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have you tried speaking to alyn @ ASperformance in birtley. I'm sure he'd do you some kind of good deal, he's good with everyone
Old 26 August 2013, 07:44 PM
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Originally Posted by rob84
have you tried speaking to alyn @ ASperformance in birtley. I'm sure he'd do you some kind of good deal, he's good with everyone
I have spoken to no one at the moment, I was hoping to use the brains of people on here, as my problem is that I work nights, so unless I can sort stuff during my days off I'm stuffed. So hence asking around if anyone knew the cheapest places.

Not everyone has the money to throw at things, and get someone else to do them. I'll be doing the work myself, and already know about the correct procedure for the ARB studs and the recommended extra torque than standard.

So looking to get this done for a reasonable amount, and to do the work myself.
Assuming the block is not at fault then I should be ok.
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Alyn at AS performance would be one of my first ports of call too..........in fact I'm just about to ask him to sort out a battery for me, an odd size as it has to fit around my FMIC pipes

www.asperformance.com

Or Paul Finch at Finch Motorsport.
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Originally Posted by Jimbob
I have spoken to no one at the moment, I was hoping to use the brains of people on here, as my problem is that I work nights, so unless I can sort stuff during my days off I'm stuffed. So hence asking around if anyone knew the cheapest places.

Not everyone has the money to throw at things, and get someone else to do them. I'll be doing the work myself, and already know about the correct procedure for the ARB studs and the recommended extra torque than standard.

So looking to get this done for a reasonable amount, and to do the work myself.
Assuming the block is not at fault then I should be ok.
wasn't suggesting anyone built your engine. apologies if my reply came across that way I was suggesting alyn for a parts supply at a competitive price. He's often on here of an evening, Wouldnt hurt to drop him a PM and see what he could do
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Originally Posted by Midlife......
Alyn at AS performance would be one of my first ports of call too..........in fact I'm just about to ask him to sort out a battery for me, an odd size as it has to fit around my FMIC pipes

www.asperformance.com

Or Paul Finch at Finch Motorsport.
Cool will ring around tomorrow.
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Automotive Developments in Bristol.
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Or Dave Coe .
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Lol @ Dave Coe!!

Right been looking through my receipts and the engine was built with 1.6mm multilayer steel Subaru H/G's, which I should imagine would be the better thing to replace the outgoing h/g with.

So far I've got these prices.

£115 for Subaru H/G's.
£160 for ARP head Studs.
£95 for Gates Racing Kevlar Cambelt.
£45 for DEI heat wrap.

All prices include VAT and delivery.

Anyone know how much heat wrap 2 inch wide 50ft long I will need to wrap a set of headers and up pipe??
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I already have a full set of rocker cover gaskets, all Subaru ones, and will get header and turbo gaskets, as they aren't a great deal of money and easy to come by. I also have Oil, and filter.


Anything else missing from this list??

I will see what my stat is like on removal, and push comes to shove I have a standard one here.
Plugs I have a set of 7's, but may get a new set anyway.

Also considering an ally rad too, and at £130 odd delivered they aren't exactly a rip off.

I'll also finally get around to fitting my Oil Pressure and Temp Gauges and Senders too, and these Tubular Manifolds I seem to have had for Decades lol.

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Old 28 August 2013, 09:14 AM
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Jimbob, have you tried Advanced Automotives in Bristol (maybe who Trooper meant)........http://www.advancedautomotives.com/
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how about import car parts? they came in cheaper for me when I put my new engine in
Old 28 August 2013, 12:38 PM
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^^^ LOL, fair enough, I forgot them as I buy most of my servicing bits from Mark and he is a top geezer!
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Import Car Parts is where I got my rocker gaskets from, and where I'll probably end up getting my exhaust gaskets from as they are usually the cheapest for OEM gaskets.

Which is "better"?? A Subaru 1.6mm multi layer steel head gasket, or a Cometic 1.6mm head gasket??
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Hi there

Personally I would stay away from Cometic Headgasket and use Subaru MLS Headgasket or Cosworth Headgasket

Jura
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Originally Posted by jura11
Hi there

Personally I would stay away from Cometic Headgasket and use Subaru MLS Headgasket or Cosworth Headgasket

Jura
Cheers bud. Not doubting you, but any reason why??
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Originally Posted by Jimbob
Cheers bud. Not doubting you, but any reason why??
I just don't trust Cometic HG,if you will carefully search over few forums,you will see why I wouldn't use Cometic

Go rather with OE Subaru MLS HG or Cosworth,both are used in numerous builds without the problem

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Originally Posted by Bristol98
Jimbob, have you tried Advanced Automotives in Bristol (maybe who Trooper meant)........http://www.advancedautomotives.com/
Old 30 August 2013, 01:52 AM
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Originally Posted by jura11
I just don't trust Cometic HG,if you will carefully search over few forums,you will see why I wouldn't use Cometic

Go rather with OE Subaru MLS HG or Cosworth,both are used in numerous builds without the problem

Jura
I will have a close look when I'm off work on Sat.
I was leaning to the Subaru 1.6mm as that's OEM, but was gonna wait to see how much if anything comes off the heads when skimmed, hopefully not a lot.

I was shown years ago when removing a cylinder head to remove the reverse of fitting in that you loosen in stages. So hoepfully that will help, but all depends on the route the exhaust gasses took out
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Not trying to teach you to suck eggs, but if it's been rebuilt before using 1.6mm gaskets and the heads were skimmed and you have to skim the heads again, you'll need to work out the Compression Ratio and buy gaskets according to what CR you want to run, as opposed to just getting another set of 1.6mm so best to hang fire on those until then.
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Not trying to teach you to suck eggs, but if it's been rebuilt before using 1.6mm gaskets and the heads were skimmed and you have to skim the heads again, you'll need to work out the Compression Ratio and buy gaskets according to what CR you want to run, as opposed to just getting another set of 1.6mm so best to hang fire on those until then.
Exactly what I was planning on doing, and why I haven't bought them yet

The Engine was built in 2005, so god knows what was done at the time as I bought it second hand 2 years ago. The worst case scenario is that I use the spare heads in my garage .

But the 1.6mm h/g is the standard gasket for the Import, so I'm guessing that they will make thicker for this precise reason. So will have a chat with the machinists, and if its needing skimming then depends on how much comes off.
But I hope that its not a great deal and the failure is the gasket itself (being only an issue under boost) and not something more sinister.

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I don't know if this is correct, but with .50 over size forged pistons then I should be running slightly lower compression ratio than standard??
Is this assumption correct, assuming all other things are as they should.
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no, oversize pistons have no bearing on compression in general

piston style/design, any head skimming/machining and head chamber shape are the pertinent things
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no, oversize pistons have no bearing on compression in general

piston style/design, any head skimming/machining and head chamber shape are the pertinent things
It will, only if the piston is a like for like swap will there be no change, usually a forged piston will lower the comp ratio a tad, and over sizing will do similar. Admittedly a fraction, but fractions added together make a difference.



Engine is now out anyways, 2hr 20mins.
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Well she's out.





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These are the cheapest I could source, Import Car Parts, and Advanced Automotive.
Mainly all from Import Car Parts, with the turbo to up pipe gasket from Advanced.
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What did that lot cost you mate
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[QUOTE Anyone know how much heat wrap 2 inch wide 50ft long I will need to wrap a set of headers and up pipe??[/QUOTE]

Just done this job on GT2 headers and up pipe using DEI wrap, used most of 100ft of 2". There's quite a lot of double wrapping involved, 50ft roll + 15ft roll won't be enough.
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Originally Posted by Paben
[QUOTE Anyone know how much heat wrap 2 inch wide 50ft long I will need to wrap a set of headers and up pipe??
Just done this job on GT2 headers and up pipe using DEI wrap, used most of 100ft of 2". There's quite a lot of double wrapping involved, 50ft roll + 15ft roll won't be enough.[/QUOTE]

Ordered 2 50ft rolls, 2 inch wide. That should sort it. Cheers buddy.
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