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Old 05 July 2013, 10:56 PM
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My mate is looking to px his evo with a type 25 litchfield 2004 model with 48k on the clock and running 360/360 he wants £11k for it is it worth it.It's on pistonheads but don't know how to put up a link thanks Gary

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Old 05 July 2013, 11:11 PM
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Here you go mate.

http://www.pistonheads.com/classifie...c-spec/1516699
Old 05 July 2013, 11:19 PM
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Cheers yes that's the one is it worth the asking price?
Old 05 July 2013, 11:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Matt23
I had a chuckle at the 30mpg comment. They don't do that with the engine switched off

Nice though and a good price.

Mines up for £9.5k, but mine has been used a bit more
Old 05 July 2013, 11:24 PM
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It's a 2.5 but based on a JDM? I thought all JDM's were 2.0?

Also, if this is based on a JDM, what's the difference between this car and a standard JDM, except for a map? Does the type 25 have any handling / chassis upgrades?

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Old 05 July 2013, 11:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Peedee
It's a 2.5 but based on a JDM? I thought all JDM's were 2.0?
They are until they are converted to a T25
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Is it newer than yours ? And lower milage? 30 mpg lol also does anyone know how many were built?

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Originally Posted by Martin2005
They are until they are converted to a T25
Do they just replace the 2.0 with a 2.5 then?
Old 05 July 2013, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by scoobygaz1
Is it newer than yours ? And lower milage? 30 mpg lol
Mines a bit newer Dec04 MY05

They made about 40 MK1s, no idea how many Mk2s

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Originally Posted by Peedee
Do they just replace the 2.0 with a 2.5 then?
Yes
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Originally Posted by Martin2005
Yes
But forged right? So, they take the 2.0 out of a JDM, replace it with a (forged?) 2.5 and keep the rest of the lump the same?
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Originally Posted by Peedee
But forged right? So, they take the 2.0 out of a JDM, replace it with a (forged?) 2.5 and keep the rest of the lump the same?
They used to get the engines from the US (before the 2.5lt came out here). They replaced the internals with stronger forged bits and add a hybrid turbo.

btw the forged internals weren't as strong as they hoped!! Hence mine (and many others)now have replacement forged Cosworth Bottom-ends
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How can you tell if its been upgraded?
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So if you own a t25 that hasn't been rebuilt, its probably going to pop at some point?
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So hang on this person took the T25 in as a part exchange recently for an evo, but now wants to take part exchange another evo?

Make your mind up mate

Regards,

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T25 was never built with forged internals, it was an oem bottom end and crank,piston and rods it used to come as a kit. It was like taking a bullet proof 2.0l engine and replacing it with a ticking time bomb 2.5 so to speak
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Originally Posted by Subaru Collector 555
So hang on this person took the T25 in as a part exchange recently for an evo, but now wants to take part exchange another evo?

Make your mind up mate

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No my mate has a 500+bhp evo and this chap wants to px the t25 with him.
Old 06 July 2013, 08:15 AM
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Originally Posted by juggers
T25 was never built with forged internals, it was an oem bottom end and crank,piston and rods it used to come as a kit. It was like taking a bullet proof 2.0l engine and replacing it with a ticking time bomb 2.5 so to speak
I believe they used forged pistons on the later blob eye T25s as they had problems withe the early ones running standard internals.
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Originally Posted by STi8
I believe they used forged pistons on the later blob eye T25s as they had problems withe the early ones running standard internals.
Nearly correct.... the MKII TYPE-25's used the Cosworth tall engine which meant forged bottom end.

Even the MK1 TYPE-25's had forged pistons.
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So is the car worth £11k ?
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Originally Posted by scoobygaz1
So is the car worth £11k ?
They are very tough cars to put a value on mate.

I'd say that looks like a really good price, but I would say that wouldn't I

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Old 06 July 2013, 02:19 PM
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I'd say it was yes. I've seen them up for more and I don't think they will depreciate much more as they are rare.
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I would say its a fair price
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At that mileage it should have had a rebuild of some sort, either head gaskets or full bottom end. If it has, that's a bargain.
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I paid £11,350 for my 38000 mile 2004/5 model Type 20 (essentially the same but with the original JDM 2.0 engine) in late 2011, so it's not too bad, but I wouldn't swap mine for that one. Mine was dear, but it was worth it for its condition as far as I was concerned.

The one in the advert has been messed about with from its original T25 specification, for example it now has cheaper BC coilovers rather than the ASTs it came with, a dump valve (are you here today Tommy?!), a different induction kit, different wheels, no roof vent I can see (I may be wrong, but I think in that case it's not a Spec C as it claims) and if it's 'as new', why has it got rusty bits and dirt in the engine compartment?

It's still a Type 25, so will of course be dearer than the equivalent ordinary STis, and there's nothing there that can't be sorted out if you wanted to, but I'd want to have a very good look over it and check its history before I bought it.

Don't forget to look hard for rust underneath, too. The undertrays at the front can hide all kinds of potential 'entertainment' and the seller may not be aware of this as it seems he's a bit vague about his car.

I hope this helps.
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It should have a large intercooler water spray tank behind the back seats in the boot if it's a Spec C, too.
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Originally Posted by Osimabu
I paid £11,350 for my 38000 mile 2004/5 model Type 20 (essentially the same but with the original JDM 2.0 engine) in late 2011, so it's not too bad, but I wouldn't swap mine for that one. Mine was dear, but it was worth it for its condition as far as I was concerned.

The one in the advert has been messed about with from its original T25 specification, for example it now has cheaper BC coilovers rather than the ASTs it came with, a dump valve (are you here today Tommy?!), a different induction kit, different wheels, no roof vent I can see (I may be wrong, but I think in that case it's not a Spec C as it claims) and if it's 'as new', why has it got rusty bits and dirt in the engine compartment?

It's still a Type 25, so will of course be dearer than the equivalent ordinary STis, and there's nothing there that can't be sorted out if you wanted to, but I'd want to have a very good look over it and check its history before I bought it.

Don't forget to look hard for rust underneath, too. The undertrays at the front can hide all kinds of potential 'entertainment' and the seller may not be aware of this as it seems he's a bit vague about his car.

I hope this helps.
Cheers for the detailed info will let him know
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Doesn't spec c have a roof vent?
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Please see posts 25, 26 and 27.... ;-)
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I would say it's not a Spec C. It appears to have tinted rear windows as well as not having a roof vent.


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