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Old May 15, 2013 | 11:16 AM
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Old May 15, 2013 | 11:39 AM
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This is how it should have come from Subaru .....
Want one ))
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Old May 15, 2013 | 11:50 AM
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But how much is the basic car in the UK and how much for that sort of conversion?

I bet it's between 30% and 50% MORE than the Yanks pay?
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Old May 15, 2013 | 01:39 PM
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i think its £26000 new ?????

that rebuild and stuff i bet is another £20000+

i would be happy with a 100bhp turbo bolt on kit 300bhp in that would be nice or a supercharger kit
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Old May 15, 2013 | 02:10 PM
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Would love a test drive, I bet it's fun with that power in a rear wheel drive, power to weight ratio of a Porsche 997 or better
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Old May 15, 2013 | 02:21 PM
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Nice! Will have a watch when I get home.
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UK price, £26000, or £28000

USA price, $25000, or $28000

Actual USA price in £: £16,407, to £18,375

Now, who would have one at THAT price?????

And WHY are Subaru and IM ripping us off again???
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Old May 15, 2013 | 03:19 PM
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Do Toyota have the same engine?
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Old May 15, 2013 | 03:23 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
UK price, £26000, or £28000

USA price, $25000, or $28000

Actual USA price in £: £16,407, to £18,375

Now, who would have one at THAT price?????

And WHY are Subaru and IM ripping us off again???
I think a large part of the price difference is the high uk tax rates.
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Old May 15, 2013 | 04:20 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
UK price, £26000, or £28000

USA price, $25000, or $28000

Actual USA price in £: £16,407, to £18,375

Now, who would have one at THAT price?????

And WHY are Subaru and IM ripping us off again???

I almost didn't believe that so went onto a Tampa Florida dealer and you're bloody right!! 2013 brand new top spec one $27150

£10'000 more if you live in this **** hole!! I'm packing up my ***** and moving to Florida!!
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Old May 15, 2013 | 04:39 PM
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Originally Posted by chopperman
I think a large part of the price difference is the high uk tax rates.
No, it's really not. Do some checks.

it's down to Subaru and IM greed. It always has been.

Edited to say: actually, you could be right. UK VAT is 20%, and I'm not sure if there is another new car tax too?

USA sales tax is about 8%.

HOW can they be so rich as a nation with such low taxation rates?

Or more to the point, what the hell do our lot do with all the tax revenue?

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Old May 15, 2013 | 05:10 PM
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They pay for health their health care ,with a population of 311,591,917 give or take .
That's allot of money their government don't have to pay for
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Old May 15, 2013 | 05:16 PM
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It's the same with a lot of stuff in the US, Car parts etc... they tend to be a good 1/3 to 25% cheaper over there.
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Old May 15, 2013 | 05:37 PM
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not sure why they cant map it properly?
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
not sure why they cant map it properly?
I'd say it's more teething problems rather than say "Crawford performance can't map a car properly"

He said he can map it up to 3 times a day...Obviously trying new things with it as it produces a lot more power as a like for like over the EJ 2.0
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Yes, that was interesting. And if it's over there, it must meet the emission rules too?
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Old May 15, 2013 | 08:06 PM
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I like it, I think 300ish through the rear wheels would be enough though, looks like it goes like a stabbed rat, I bet it's a hand full in the wet through the twisties.
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Old May 15, 2013 | 08:44 PM
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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
I like it, I think 300ish through the rear wheels would be enough though, looks like it goes like a stabbed rat, I bet it's a hand full in the wet through the twisties.
140hp in the 5 is enough in the wet, let alone 400+

Trying to drift

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Old May 16, 2013 | 12:21 PM
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Now that's better. As long as Subaru detune it to 400bhp that will do us mere mortals

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Old May 16, 2013 | 12:48 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar

Edited to say: actually, you could be right. UK VAT is 20%, and I'm not sure if there is another new car tax too?
Import duty will also apply - approx 10%
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Old May 16, 2013 | 04:06 PM
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Turbo kit for BRZ is $6,000 including mapping

http://pandlmotorsports.com/shop/pl-...e-1-turbo-kit/

Built short engine is $5,000 from Crawford

http://store.crawfordperformance.com/store/products/654

So, in USA, you could have a 400bhp brz with a built engine for the cost of a standard one in UK
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Old May 16, 2013 | 04:17 PM
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I'd guess Crawford put a failsafe in map
So bellender press guys can't boot the hell out of the car till oil is at optimum temp
I had this on my scoob
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Old May 16, 2013 | 06:04 PM
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This is probably a silly idea but could you put the engine from the brz in a blob scoob as they are both the 2.0L? Because the brz engine make more power than the blob one...?
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Old May 16, 2013 | 06:48 PM
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Originally Posted by Mr Blobby
This is probably a silly idea but could you put the engine from the brz in a blob scoob as they are both the 2.0L? Because the brz engine make more power than the blob one...?
Not unless you want to buy a lexus gearbox and convert to rear wheel drive
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Old May 16, 2013 | 08:11 PM
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Originally Posted by serega
Not unless you want to buy a lexus gearbox and convert to rear wheel drive
Haha that'd be a no then. I was just wondering if it were a possibility as I have no idea about these things. Thanks.
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Originally Posted by Mr Blobby
This is probably a silly idea but could you put the engine from the brz in a blob scoob as they are both the 2.0L? Because the brz engine make more power than the blob one...?
If they used a "Subaru style" bell-housing then it would fit, but all the electrics + ECU would need to be added.

The UK has high car prices, because historically we had to "protect" rubbish quality over-priced product from reliable cheaper imports, basically the Government allowed higher profits for all.

Don't forget the 10% car tax that was applied so they got a cut of the overpriced stock as well !

dunx

P.S. One year old BRZ seen at £20,000, and Litchfield are doing a supercharger kit as we speak...
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Originally Posted by GAZ2293
I'd say it's more teething problems rather than say "Crawford performance can't map a car properly"

He said he can map it up to 3 times a day...Obviously trying new things with it as it produces a lot more power as a like for like over the EJ 2.0
Many STI's manage 400 bhp so it's about the same, given it's a built motor.

The benefits come from the longer throw crank, giving a better torque curve in a similar manner to an Evo lump.

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