scooby800

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call me sad but im bored but youd be shocked how little braking it took to get them smoking like that

quattroowner

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Holy **** !! think some new one's are in need. Never a good combination, Cheap brake pads vs say 300bhp.

Dave-W-

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not the best area of the car to try and save money

try ian at goodspeed for your new ones

tubbytommy

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odd thread.
i bought **** pads and suprise suprise, there ****



well done sherlock

scooby800

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yea just over 300 and iv got wilwoods up front doing most of the work lol............ and a new camera im not very good with lol

scooby800

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lol


belive it or not the factor did a cheaper option

Dave-W-

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tubbytommy

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as said before mate, not really a place you want to scrimp on.
the rears do a suprising amount of work on an impreza

RSF1

Most important thing if you ask me..The standard brakes on these cars,specially the wrxs are a joke,certainly not up for the job..Im sure theres a thread with group buys for decent pads and id say change em your self and save the £££ AllI can say is never go cheap on pads and most definetly change the standard ones.EBCs are not to expensive..Iwould upgrade the discs and pads straight away..IMO its the 1st thing you should be doing with these cars,even at standard 220bhp there crap,had a bad experience with standard brakes and pads and I aint having it ever again..
take care and never go cheapon brakes

scooby800

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not on mine they dont

tubbytommy

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i beg to differ, they would not be smoking if they werent doing any work

scooby800

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very true brake fade was only just settling in aswell there "apec" if anyone is intrested... il be going down the carbotech line for pads when i get new ones

Norman Dog

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If you're after something that won't break the bank but is still very good, I'd recommend these.

http://www.godspeedbrakes.co.uk/~god...id_product=160

MattyB1983

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As Dan said, the rears do a fair amount of work. A swapped my rusted and corroded rears for some drilled and grooved blank diamond discs and matching pads, transformed the braking.

scooby(puppy power)

i put a set of apec pads in a rover 216 years ago, the day before a trip to tenby about 200ish miles from me, all copper greased etc, they started squeeling before i got there thought **** it regrease them when i get home, i took them back apart day after getting home and the pad lining was coming away from the backing plate what and absolute bag of **** they where all for saving 20 quid i think

stonejedi

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I thnk what would help more is if you could get a nice set of four pot calipers and two pots for the rear and a decent set of disc and pads.when I first picked up my wife's classic that was the first upgrade I done in the first week of her ownership the standard sliding calipers are utter ****e and I nearly wrote the car off before it even got home.

his-n-her-scoobs

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He's already got Wilwoods on the front so 4 pots would be a downgrade.

Slating Apec as being the problem is a bit rich too, expecting any pad to deal with an increased power output and better front brakes on those poxy solid rear discs is asking a bit much.

At least go vented on the rear as the difference in cooling is quite substantial, better still 2 pot as already suggested.

Then have a look at the brands you require. Although Apec is probably still unsuitable for the hammer your car will give, they are generally regarded as a safe bet on most shopping trolleys that do the odd motorway jaunt, and I have used them happily for many years on such cars. In fact I found they were actually better than EBC greenstuff on an aging 1100 golf on solid discs. Horse for courses.

scooby800

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excatly im not trying to save money just thaught id see how they got on we fit them to road cars at work with no problems.... green stuff arnt worth a w*** in the woods imo would of been £60 insted of £12 and cooked just as fast.......
shouldnt really be driving like a idiot with brakes your not happy with then lol..........

i mean mine were smoking (and the fronts too) and i still didnt crash maybe it was your driving at fault

stonejedi

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Trolls What are you likeI was just stating how ****e the standard sliding calipers are and my experience with driving my wife's car on the day that I bought it for her when a **** pulled straight out in front of me from double White give way lines and when I hit the brakes i was about a inch off wiping out his vauxhall corsa.the idiot remark is out of order.SJ.

tubbytommy

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agreed, i just upgraded from brembos to 8 pot 356mm d2s, the difference is amazing.

but cheap pads are a waste of time

stonejedi

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One more piece of advice I know everyone says the front does most of the braking which it does,but if you have good front brakes and **** rears it also can cause braking problems and over braking issues as the rear brakes try to keep up with the fronts in a sense which they cannot do If you get my drift braking needs to be balanced properly between front and rear brakes to be affective.SJ.

scooby800

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hmmm very true thise does make sence

AS Performance

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4wd in general and Subaru's in particular benefit greatly from correctly speccing the rear set-up as they are often under-braked as std......

also in general terms the pad is THE most important component, better to sacrifice the disc budget for an improvement in pads IMO

his-n-her-scoobs

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Does that mean you would stay with a solid disc rather than go vented?

AS Performance

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your talking about 'plain' faced as opposed to 'grooved' discs i presume............

then yes a good quality std plain discs with an improved pad material will always outperform a "grooved" disc with std pads

also bear in mind an awful lot of "uprated" discs on the market are nothing more than std plain discs that have spent some time in a CNC machine and hence are purely an "uprated look"............

biggi

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U think that's bad we'll I have a 2002 bug i STI Wagon, for some reason it's fitted with the subaru 4pot calipers, oh my god r they shocking, I think the pads for 1 are cheap, so trying a different option now, just purchased a same set, going to refurb them put them on with new discs n pads, then refurb my old ones, sell them, see how I get on, if they r still shocking the brembos r my second option.

his-n-her-scoobs

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Sorry Alyn, I was talking about going from solid discs to proper ventilated discs (and calipers) as supplied on the rear of MY99/00 cars, and some import WRX.

There is no increase in braking power as the discs are the same 266mm diameter and the calipers have the same size pistons, just a wider caliper to accomodate the wider disc. I did this on my 97 car and found that I could hoon around much longer without the rears smoking/fading on cheap pads. I think I would rather spend the money on a properly cooled set of discs than rely on an expensive fast wearing set of pads trying to hang on at high temperatures on a solid disc.

Have now fitted 2 pot rears with the 290mm discs and Pagids, these run even cooler in comparison. May spend some money on more expensive pads in future but am happy at the mo.

And yes, I know most grooved discs are mainly for show

Godspeed Brakes

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Grooved discs are not for show , when pads get hot they give off a gas , the milder the pad the more gas they produce , the gas will push the pad off the discs under extreme conditions and will cause brake fade , you can combat this by fitting harsher pads to reduce the amount of gas , or put grooves into the discs face which gives the gas somewhere to go keeping the pad on the discs , or better still a combination of both.

Grooved discs will perform better than plain discs , look at most motorsport discs , they will have some kind of grooving , and that is with very high performing pads , if they didn't work , they wouldn't fit them !

his-n-her-scoobs

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Misinterpreted again, I said most. I was agreeing with Alyn re: the quality, not the science.

I use yours Ian




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