Toucan vs gauges
02 January 2013, 05:08 PM
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Toucan vs gauges
Unsure whether to get toucan or just gauges, can anyone advise on cost for the toucan? I know the unit itself is around £350 but then i guess I need all the various sensors for the toucan gauges to actually work and then labour costs. A decent set of gauges/pod/labour is going to be around £500 so currently edging towards the toucan but need a better understanding of the cost to make the decision.
02 January 2013, 05:26 PM
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Not that I'm biased or anything...
Toucan will already pick up data from any sensors connected, by default, to the ecu: rpm, speed, boost, throttle position, coolant temp, lambda, battery volts, gear and air charge temperature (assuming you still have the MAF wired in, or an after-market fitted when your AlcaTek or Syvecs was fitted).
That just leaves the "add-on" sensors: oil temp and oil pressure; and fuel pressure if you want it; also exhaust gas temp maybe.
I would recommend oil temp and pressure as a minimum; and fuel pressure if you have an after-market fuel pressure regulator. EGT is useful if you're running antilag, and also as a general guide to the correct running of you engine but I would put it bottom of the the list TBH.
Fitting both Toucan and the sensors is definitely something a competent DIYer can tackle. I would estimate 30 minutes for the Toucan and maybe an hour for the sensors, perhaps a little more if you are still running a TMIC since that has to be removed to gain access.
We do individual sensors with cables, or a full 4 sensor bundle with a neat single loom - take a look at the website for all the options.
To give you an idea, a Toucan, oil temp, oil pressure and a fitting kit for those two sensors, is around £645 delivered.
Are you on Syvecs or AlcaTek? Adding a wideband is recommended really (nothing to do with Toucan, it's just a good idea to have full closed loop control of lambda even when on boost) and is plug-and-play on Syvecs, as is adding an EGT whereas you need external controllers on the AlcaTek.
Hope this helps?
Toucan will already pick up data from any sensors connected, by default, to the ecu: rpm, speed, boost, throttle position, coolant temp, lambda, battery volts, gear and air charge temperature (assuming you still have the MAF wired in, or an after-market fitted when your AlcaTek or Syvecs was fitted).
That just leaves the "add-on" sensors: oil temp and oil pressure; and fuel pressure if you want it; also exhaust gas temp maybe.
I would recommend oil temp and pressure as a minimum; and fuel pressure if you have an after-market fuel pressure regulator. EGT is useful if you're running antilag, and also as a general guide to the correct running of you engine but I would put it bottom of the the list TBH.
Fitting both Toucan and the sensors is definitely something a competent DIYer can tackle. I would estimate 30 minutes for the Toucan and maybe an hour for the sensors, perhaps a little more if you are still running a TMIC since that has to be removed to gain access.
We do individual sensors with cables, or a full 4 sensor bundle with a neat single loom - take a look at the website for all the options.
To give you an idea, a Toucan, oil temp, oil pressure and a fitting kit for those two sensors, is around £645 delivered.
Are you on Syvecs or AlcaTek? Adding a wideband is recommended really (nothing to do with Toucan, it's just a good idea to have full closed loop control of lambda even when on boost) and is plug-and-play on Syvecs, as is adding an EGT whereas you need external controllers on the AlcaTek.
Hope this helps?
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02 January 2013, 06:05 PM
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im on Alcatek, im not sure I could stretch to £645 as I'm pretty sure I dont come under the competent DIYer category unless it comes with step by step photo instructions, lol. If anyone's doing the same to a MY00 please feel free to take loads of photos and post them on here 
02 January 2013, 06:54 PM
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Not sure,but Tim this should confirm you can use both like toucan and CAL switch for switching the maps
Sensor pack from Tim is one thing you should consider,just due Trip/Limp
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02 January 2013, 06:58 PM
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https://www.scoobynet.com/members/ju...hdr-21010.html
Maybe if I saw one close up id be convinced.
02 January 2013, 09:33 PM
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This is warning/alarm on the Fuel pressure and Oil temperature,you will see them only on start up or until temps are up to operational temps/pressure
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02 January 2013, 10:34 PM
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In my car I often change the function of cals depending on what I am doing and when at track wear gloves so use the traditional syvecs calcswitch to change cal but write into the toucan what each cal does. The cal switch changes cal as normal and the current cal and its description is displayed on the toucan.
I could rewire the toucan to do the selection too but the clunky switch is kind of easier in a rush.
At santapod for example I was turning launch control off for burn out, then changing cal to turn it back on at the lights. Its therefore nice to swing the dial to a position quick and glance at the toucan to see its at the cal I wanted and if I forgot which one to select you tap the description to check.
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02 January 2013, 10:36 PM
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If you change CALs regularly while driving then either use a standard CAL switch, or maybe keep Toucan on the CAL selection page and use the BIG left and right arrows to change CAL?
Always open to suggestion on how to improve Toucan, so if any users have suggestions just let me know
02 January 2013, 10:38 PM
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Mine needs more time spent.
The two gauges are oil pressure and boost pressure because I am paronoid and want a second opinion
I hate the rev counter there but you can see it all the time so function over form.
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