Unsure whether to get toucan or just gauges, can anyone advise on cost for the toucan? I know the unit itself is around £350 but then i guess I need all the various sensors for the toucan gauges to actually work and then labour costs. A decent set of gauges/pod/labour is going to be around £500 so currently edging towards the toucan but need a better understanding of the cost to make the decision.

 

Hi there

Depends where are you located,but Tim@JTi will able to help you with fitting and setting up if needs to be

Speak with Tim about that and I'm sure he will able to help you without the doubts

Jura

 

Also depends on if you have a Simtek or Syveccs fitted too as there is no current setup available for the OEM ecu.

 

Not that I'm biased or anything...

Toucan will already pick up data from any sensors connected, by default, to the ecu: rpm, speed, boost, throttle position, coolant temp, lambda, battery volts, gear and air charge temperature (assuming you still have the MAF wired in, or an after-market fitted when your AlcaTek or Syvecs was fitted).

That just leaves the "add-on" sensors: oil temp and oil pressure; and fuel pressure if you want it; also exhaust gas temp maybe.

I would recommend oil temp and pressure as a minimum; and fuel pressure if you have an after-market fuel pressure regulator. EGT is useful if you're running antilag, and also as a general guide to the correct running of you engine but I would put it bottom of the the list TBH.

Fitting both Toucan and the sensors is definitely something a competent DIYer can tackle. I would estimate 30 minutes for the Toucan and maybe an hour for the sensors, perhaps a little more if you are still running a TMIC since that has to be removed to gain access.

We do individual sensors with cables, or a full 4 sensor bundle with a neat single loom - take a look at the website for all the options.

To give you an idea, a Toucan, oil temp, oil pressure and a fitting kit for those two sensors, is around £645 delivered.

Are you on Syvecs or AlcaTek? Adding a wideband is recommended really (nothing to do with Toucan, it's just a good idea to have full closed loop control of lambda even when on boost) and is plug-and-play on Syvecs, as is adding an EGT whereas you need external controllers on the AlcaTek.

Hope this helps?

 

Tbho given the cost of 'good' gauges ie defi plus fitting cost it would be a no brainer to go with the toucan,plus who wants a gauge with a needle when you can have digital display and touch screen!!!

 

Well...digital needles anyway

 

 

I have a simtek pro just fitted. Will this toucan work with mine?

Sorry to barge in on your thread:-(

 

The toucan is obviously a great bit of kit but I just couldn't live with it, looks like a tarted up sat nav in my opinion. I prefer seeing gauges but cant take away the functions of the toucan, very cool.

 

Each to their own Never seen a sat nav made from billet aluminium and finished in soft-touch paint though

 

im on Alcatek, im not sure I could stretch to £645 as I'm pretty sure I dont come under the competent DIYer category unless it comes with step by step photo instructions, lol. If anyone's doing the same to a MY00 please feel free to take loads of photos and post them on here

 

Do like the toucan but the only thing that bugs me, is not having the ability to change the map quickly like you can with a cal switch whilst going for it....

 

How many times you are changing the map during you are drive?
Not sure,but Tim this should confirm you can use both like toucan and CAL switch for switching the maps

Sensor pack from Tim is one thing you should consider,just due Trip/Limp


Jura

 

Im just thinking for spriting starting at say 1.4bar working up to 2bar plus, my trips are wired to my gauge senders. Have one for fuel prssure, oil pressure and water temp for now

 

Im only going by pics that ive seen as havent seen/felt one in the flesh.

https://www.scoobynet.com/members/ju...hdr-21010.html

Maybe if I saw one close up id be convinced.

 

Any pics of the toucan think I've seen one but not sure

 

 

Agreed for spirited driving yes I would like to have again wired CAL switch which should be no problem,hopefully Tim confirm this can be possible

About the trips,which you have are OK

Jura

 

How did you get those two guages to highlight like that?

 

Toucan clears up a whole heap of crap on your dash.
Else you'll end up with a dash looking like a space ship!

Hate my dash, best of a bad job IMO.

 

Jura what digital dash is that ?

 

Sonic - Thats a Race Technologies 'Dash 2'

Tim - i'm also curious as to the possibility of Toucan and CAL switch functioning together... as queried above.

 

This is warning/alarm on the Fuel pressure and Oil temperature,you will see them only on start up or until temps are up to operational temps/pressure

Jura



Looking good Frayz and really credit to your work

Jura

Hi there

Dash is Race Technology DASH2



Jura

 

You dont have to use the toucan to control the cal selection.

In my car I often change the function of cals depending on what I am doing and when at track wear gloves so use the traditional syvecs calcswitch to change cal but write into the toucan what each cal does. The cal switch changes cal as normal and the current cal and its description is displayed on the toucan.
I could rewire the toucan to do the selection too but the clunky switch is kind of easier in a rush.
At santapod for example I was turning launch control off for burn out, then changing cal to turn it back on at the lights. Its therefore nice to swing the dial to a position quick and glance at the toucan to see its at the cal I wanted and if I forgot which one to select you tap the description to check.

Simon

 

No problem using a rotary CAL switch rather than Toucan - horses for courses

If you change CALs regularly while driving then either use a standard CAL switch, or maybe keep Toucan on the CAL selection page and use the BIG left and right arrows to change CAL?

Always open to suggestion on how to improve Toucan, so if any users have suggestions just let me know

 

The thought, time and effort put into yours is clear though Frayz.

Mine needs more time spent.
The two gauges are oil pressure and boost pressure because I am paronoid and want a second opinion


I hate the rev counter there but you can see it all the time so function over form.

Simon

 

Do you have separate sensors for the EOP and boost gauges, and then separate ones connected to Syvecs?

 

Yes.

 

Redundancy...good! (for a competition car)

 

Its the sensors I dont trust. I had two oil pressure gauges in the previous car