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Old 19 November 2012, 09:26 AM
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Default Oh F***-it ive split a piston - need advice on way forward

06 2.5 wrx

I've had a rattle for a couple of months, got to the garage a couple of times for it to be checked only for it to disappear on arrival

As it was still pulling hard, with no smoke and not burning oil my assumption was a pully bearing but whilst at Subaru for MOT they have said classic sound for cracked piston skirt.

Cracked skirt will still allow full compression and as it gets warm/hot the sound will start to go

Ok so now im a bit stumped on the next move and the scary costs!!

Subaru are saying min £2.25k - if its just the piston, replace with forged cosworth, cos gaskets and a large oil slop guard

If its scored the shells on the crank im at the the thin end of £6k < not going to happen as car can't be worth much over that

Any advice, suggested costs, better way to deal with, experience?

I replaced an engine on an Lancia Intergralle a few years ago and the cost killed me for a long long time

Help?
Old 19 November 2012, 09:43 AM
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Speak to David at API on here, a lot cheaper than what Subaru want to rip you off for.

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Take it to paul at Zen performance, they are on your doorstep and one of the best in the business

You will get a full rebuild with forged internals and arp head studs for ish £3k dependant on spec / parts used and the problem will go away and you will be good for circa 450 bhp.

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Originally Posted by ditchmyster
Take it to paul at Zen performance, they are on your doorstep and one of the best in the business

You will get a full rebuild with forged internals and arp head studs for ish £3k dependant on spec / parts used and the problem will go away and you will be good for circa 450 bhp.

DON'T USE MAIN STEALERS.
^^^^^ this +1
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sorry to hear about what has happened to your motor john, that price of 6k is outrageous but then it is the main dealers, we have a 2.5 here from a 2007 sti which we have just had freshly rebuilt built with forged pistons and rods also arp head studs, with a set heads to suit you motor £3000 fitted including new cam belt plugs, oil pump, water pump, head gaskets etc,,,

just an option for you mate

all the best scott...
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6k is a bit outrageous. I work for a main dealer & charge no were near that for a forged build. Just goes to show we arnt all stealers.
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Originally Posted by John Owen
06 2.5 wrx

I've had a rattle for a couple of months, got to the garage a couple of times for it to be checked only for it to disappear on arrival

As it was still pulling hard, with no smoke and not burning oil my assumption was a pully bearing but whilst at Subaru for MOT they have said classic sound for cracked piston skirt.

Cracked skirt will still allow full compression and as it gets warm/hot the sound will start to go

Ok so now im a bit stumped on the next move and the scary costs!!

Subaru are saying min £2.25k - if its just the piston, replace with forged cosworth, cos gaskets and a large oil slop guard

If its scored the shells on the crank im at the the thin end of £6k < not going to happen as car can't be worth much over that

Any advice, suggested costs, better way to deal with, experience?

I replaced an engine on an Lancia Intergralle a few years ago and the cost killed me for a long long time

Help?
Sorry to hear that, It must be the season In Peterborough area for cracked pistons on WRX. We have just pulled a USAF airbase one out of the local stealer in Peterboro for exactly the same job. They scared him silly with costs.

Give me a call or let me have a number and l'll call you to discuss the repair / rebuild at sensible prices.

Good Luck!, no matter what,

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Old 19 November 2012, 10:24 AM
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Sounds like unity strike again lol.
Old 19 November 2012, 10:30 AM
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Looks like I will be cancelling that appointment for strip down this week

Chasing the other options suggested now
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Originally Posted by Scott@ScoobySpares
sorry to hear about what has happened to your motor john, that price of 6k is outrageous but then it is the main dealers, we have a 2.5 here from a 2007 sti which we have just had freshly rebuilt built with forged pistons and rods also arp head studs, with a set heads to suit you motor £3000 fitted including new cam belt plugs, oil pump, water pump, head gaskets etc,,,

just an option for you mate

all the best scott...
Thanks scott, i need to keep as close to my home addy as possible or I will be transporting back and forth to drop off and pick up = time and extra costs

BTW your link in you sig to your website doesn't work
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If you are looking for a cheaper option call Tim Farmer at Subbus, he can come to you also. I am in Peterborough and he is not too far away. Number is 07880661866
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This thread scares me as I bought a 56 plate WRX in August.
Had you done anything to the car or was it standard?
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Originally Posted by VictoriaYorks
This thread scares me as I bought a 56 plate WRX in August.
Had you done anything to the car or was it standard?
Don't worry too much, generally these are tough cars.
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Thank you. I have it booked in for its first service and MOT (with me) on Friday. Hoping it's good news.
If I was facing a 3k repair bill I really don't know what I'd do!
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Originally Posted by Mad Hammer
If you are looking for a cheaper option call Tim Farmer at Subbus, he can come to you also. I am in Peterborough and he is not too far away. Number is 07880661866
I've heard good things about Tim, was he something to do with ZEN Clive or am I getting mixed up ?
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Originally Posted by Mad Hammer
If you are looking for a cheaper option call Tim Farmer at Subbus, he can come to you also. I am in Peterborough and he is not too far away. Number is 07880661866
Had a text chat with Tim and will call him later
Old 19 November 2012, 11:42 AM
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WRX 2.5's are not usually a problem with piston ringlands, unlike there 2.5 STI cousins, the OP has'nt stated what mileage his WRX has covered, so i would'nt worry to much.
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Originally Posted by VictoriaYorks
This thread scares me as I bought a 56 plate WRX in August.
Had you done anything to the car or was it standard?
I had read that this is a weak point and a common fault on this engine, but in fairness I drive it hard - as my other half kindly pointed out when I came home with the costs on Saturday :-(
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Originally Posted by MOTORS S GT
WRX 2.5's are not usually a problem with piston ringlands, unlike there 2.5 STI cousins, the OP has'nt stated what mileage his WRX has covered, so i would'nt worry to much.
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Originally Posted by John Owen
I had read that this is a weak point and a common fault on this engine, but in fairness I drive it hard - as my other half kindly pointed out when I came home with the costs on Saturday :-(
Yes I'd read that too, but I still went and bought one because I much prefer the looks. I get told off for revving too hard too
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Yeah thats him.

Top bloke.

Originally Posted by MattyB1983
I've heard good things about Tim, was he something to do with ZEN Clive or am I getting mixed up ?
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Originally Posted by MOTORS S GT
WRX 2.5's are not usually a problem with piston ringlands, unlike there 2.5 STI cousins, the OP has'nt stated what mileage his WRX has covered, so i would'nt worry to much.
^^^^ OP, this is the man i would be talking too and only about an hour or so from you. I'm sure the others offering their service in this thread are also great, but i can recommend Mr Finch here from personal experiance.
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Originally Posted by Mad Hammer
If you are looking for a cheaper option call Tim Farmer at Subbus, he can come to you also. I am in Peterborough and he is not too far away. Number is 07880661866
+1 for Tim, he is sorting my engine as I type.

He will come to your house take engine away and do it for you.
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And for very reasonable rates. He builds the engines for my drag car, enough said
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Originally Posted by Mad Hammer
And for very reasonable rates. He builds the engines for my drag car, enough said
Wow really, are there any piccies on here?
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+1 for Tim
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Originally Posted by ScoobLou
Wow really, are there any piccies on here?
Over on 22b forum under project 9
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Originally Posted by Mad Hammer
Over on 22b forum under project 9
Nice one will take a peak.
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OP, have Subaru actually heard the noise you mean?
Have they looked closely into it?

Perhaps it's not a chocolate piston skirt - is there a chance of that?
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye D
OP, have Subaru actually heard the noise you mean?
Have they looked closely into it?

Perhaps it's not a chocolate piston skirt - is there a chance of that?
Could potentially be a timing belt tensioner issue, I think there fobbing the op off somehow, Did they at anypoint offer to do a compression test


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