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Old 15 September 2012, 01:54 PM
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Default Well pissed off not 300bhp but 215 bhp :(

think i may have been conned bought my scooby thinking it was 300bhp with dyno prints.
Took it on rolling road today and it got upto 215bhp.
Well pissed off to say the least.
Taking it carnetix next week to sort it.
May be a diferent engine.
Any thoughts what it could be.
Its over fueling but would this cause a loss of 75bhp?
Thanks
Lofty.
Old 15 September 2012, 01:56 PM
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Spec?
Old 15 September 2012, 01:57 PM
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Is it a standard UK Turbo? Hope it wasnt one of those eBay adverts.
Old 15 September 2012, 01:58 PM
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Not sure what your problem is but when I bought mine it should have been 301 (Prodrive) but it was only making 275 ish and mine too was overfueling. Not as far off as yours but it may be part of the problem. After the remap at Scoobyclinic it went up to 340
Old 15 September 2012, 02:05 PM
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Standard uk turbo 2000.
Vf34 turbo(supposed to be but i dont know how to check)
Full decat straight through.
Remaped at jolly green monster (2008)
Ecutec ecu(again dont know how to check)
Bit of a newbie so im still learning lol
Old 15 September 2012, 02:21 PM
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I swapped it with a dealer on swapz site.
Old 15 September 2012, 02:27 PM
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Are both dyno charts the same , ie , wheel hp or engine hp
300whp with the mods you've mentioned would seem a little on the high side to me
Tony

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Old 15 September 2012, 02:41 PM
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hi mate, to check your turbo have a look to see what is printed on it. it should say ihi turbo in big letters on the compressor side(the shiny side) also there will be a machined flat area at the top on the face of the turbo with the spec model etc stamped in. thats if it is a vf series turbo that is.
ecu is under the passenger carpet in the footwell, maybe have a look there to see if theres any evidence of mapping?? some places mark them.
also have alook to see what injectors etc are on it, just to see if the hardware to support this stated power is there...
Old 15 September 2012, 02:50 PM
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Flywheel 215bhp
It says tp on the turbo thats all i can see
Old 15 September 2012, 02:54 PM
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Is that tp or td ?
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Tp
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Originally Posted by lofty35
Flywheel 215bhp
It says tp on the turbo thats all i can see
Certainly summat not right ,
You sure it don't say td , like scooby Gaz has said
Could be you're close to standard spec , 215 is around what you would see on a standard car
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Deffo tp mate.
Ye seems to b standard
Old 15 September 2012, 03:25 PM
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http://i1194.photobucket.com/albums/...MIC/Turbo3.jpg

it should look like the above...

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Old 15 September 2012, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by lofty35
Deffo tp mate.
Ye seems to b standard
If you think you've got the sihtty end of the deal mate , go back to him and kick up a stink and ask him what he intends to do
So far it doesn't seem to be as described

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Bought it 11 month ago & only just put it in rollers.
Cant really do anything now.
Spent £1200 in full respray.
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Originally Posted by lofty35
Bought it 11 month ago & only just put it in rollers.
Cant really do anything now.
Spent £1200 in full respray.
If you've been running it for 11 Month and thought it was ok
I wouldn't worry about it
Just get stuck in and make it 350

Tony
Old 15 September 2012, 05:32 PM
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Toneh- ye will do spent to a lot already
So may aswell keep going lol
What mods to make 350 mate.
Had a full service 2 month ago engine is sound.
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Originally Posted by lofty35
Toneh- ye will do spent to a lot already
So may aswell keep going lol
What mods to make 350 mate.
Had a full service 2 month ago engine is sound.
I'm not that up on classics mate , but there's a million and one folk on here that are ,
Someone will pop up any Minit now with your new shopping list for 350 , I'm sure
Tony

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Old 15 September 2012, 05:43 PM
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did the dyno operator produce a boost afr graph? you need to check its boosting ok.
Old 15 September 2012, 06:29 PM
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Boost was fine just over fueling
Old 15 September 2012, 06:57 PM
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what other bits has it got buddy,

k&n or uprated panel filter ,bigger intercooler,you will have 440`s as standard ,turbo spec ,

mine was done at zen and he mapped it though the ob2 port did,nt touch the ecu or foot well,i got a 16g fitted and mines at around 320bhp, for 350 you will need pinks and 18g or something that can boost to that ,

also mine boosts to 24 psi yours will be 15 at a push if 215bhp,call jolly green monster and tell him your reg and ask if he has mapped it ,won,t be the first time some one got hold of dyno print outs and wern,t for that car,
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1st question you should ask yourself is how deep are your pockets. Your gonna need a good 4k to get to 350bhp mate
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Originally Posted by Bean1984
1st question you should ask yourself is how deep are your pockets. Your gonna need a good 4k to get to 350bhp mate
How do you arrive at 4k mate , not being funny ( genuine question )
I'm assuming you're talking about having a specialist doing a lot of the work for you at that price

Tony
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Brand new k & n panel filter, fuel pump last month.
Standard tmic.
I rang subaru 4 u a few month ago just to check if they definatly fitted vf34 turbo and others bits, and said they did.
They also said it was mapped on an ecutec ecu.
As it says in my service history.
What got me thinking is if the engine was blown after these mods?
As when i put it on swapz bout 6 month ago someone spotted it and said they recognised the number plate and told me the engine was replaced after it blow up.
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Originally Posted by lofty35
Brand new k & n panel filter, fuel pump last month.
Standard tmic.
I rang subaru 4 u a few month ago just to check if they definatly fitted vf34 turbo and others bits, and said they did.
They also said it was mapped on an ecutec ecu.
As it says in my service history.
What got me thinking is if the engine was blown after these mods?
As when i put it on swapz bout 6 month ago someone spotted it and said they recognised the number plate and told me the engine was replaced after it blow up.
Sounds possible
Ecutek is just the software mate , not an ecu swap
If you,ve still got the same ecu it's a possibility that it's still got an ecutek map and licence already on it , if it has that's a bit of a bonus
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Engine replacement wouldnt remove the map feller.
Old 15 September 2012, 07:33 PM
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A classic is aprox 10 years old circa 100k miles mine let go at 120k bottom end it cost 4k for engine rebuild fully forged drive in drive out not including turbo, ecu, injectors, clutch, front mount and gearbox is on borrowed time
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Sounds like it's been put back to standard at that power.


EcuTek isn't an ECU, it's the software used. What year car is it? Must be 99/00?
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alcatek ecu - plus tdo5 18g and good mapper simon@ jgm south , andrew carr preston
all in 800 for ecu,150-200 mapping, turbo 600.AREA 52


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