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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 06:26 AM
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Default 2004 WR1 or 2006 STI ppp?

Both around 50k miles and similar priced,both fsh and bog standard whats the better car?
Im guessing the WR1 will probably be the faster?And the newer sti will be comfier and probably more reliable?Or is there not much in it?
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 08:29 AM
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Nothing in it performance wise. You are talking about two cars both with 316 bhp, the Hawkeye weighing 25 Kg more. That equates to a difference of around 0.1 sec from 0-100. Two excellent cars.
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 09:03 AM
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2006 STI PPP for me- improved suspension geometry iirc, stolen from the Spec C.
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 09:10 AM
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ME TOO! 2.5
wide track,more torqe more stable at speed and better looking in my opinion BUT its **** when you come to tax it
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 09:18 AM
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2006 is the Hawkeye? If so better gearbox ratios, a better everyday car too. Engine good for 400/400 on standard internals, likewise the WR1 engine, but beyond this the 2.5s are unstable whereas the 2.0 WR1 engine will push more.

Personally though I would go with the 2.5 Hawkeye, as the WR1 needs to stay low miles to retain it value, but still a cracking car.

If I was you I would open the door to more options if your budget permits.

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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 09:25 AM
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400 hp on a unbuilt chocaolate pistoned 2.5
Your brave rob
Most only publicly recommend the stronger 2 l newage sti engines for 400hp
I'd go wr1 but I like the colour and black interia too and last Scooby to actually be made to commemorate a wrc win quite important in my eyes
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 09:57 AM
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WR1 for sure - but a shame about the wishy-washy colour!


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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 09:58 AM
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Have you considered an Evo 9/10, S3, S4/RS4, 335i/M3?
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by wrx9181
400 hp on a unbuilt chocaolate pistoned 2.5
Your brave rob
Most only publicly recommend the stronger 2 l newage sti engines for 400hp.
There's a few 2.5s that are running around 400 with similar torque. Arguably the 2.0 will do 400 at ease, some well in excess nearing 500 however that a separate subject
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 12:33 PM
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WR1 all the way,great colour aswell,dare to be different.
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 01:09 PM
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I can't believe this thread has been on the go for 6 hours and none of the usual mob with their tongue up JDM's **** have posted their altenative buying advice

WR1 for me BTW although the Hawk is a good all rounder
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 01:47 PM
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Wr1 for me too.....then again I would say that!
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 01:50 PM
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WR1 for me, Always prefer the more rare example
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 06:27 PM
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WR1 for me too but i would say that considering ive just bought No 481
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 08:59 PM
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Hawkeye all day long
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 09:34 PM
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i'd go for the hawkeye, just a shame about tax
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 10:18 PM
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I owned a MY05 Blob, wide track & dccd, which I PX'd for MY07 RB320!
No comparison, Hawkeye all day long!!
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 10:36 PM
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Wr1 2.0ltr
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 10:55 PM
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I love the muscle car type power delivery of the 2.5. Seems to have power all over the rev range without having to scream the knackers off it. imo its a great road car, just needs a few quid spending to upgrade pistons and studs if you want to tune it up.
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Old Jul 18, 2012 | 11:23 PM
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Another hawkeye fan here too, though of the blob eyes, the WR1 would be my pick.
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 12:15 AM
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wr1 is a horrid looking car, why not get a low mileage wide track blob and add 2k worth of mods
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 12:27 AM
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If you want good looks, buy one of these

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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 12:31 AM
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 06:12 AM
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Cheers guys so the hawkeye will be a better handling car stock but apart from that very much the same?
Have been looking at evo 8 mr and evo 9s as well as m3s funnily enought not really into audis tbh.I pressume alot of people on here will have also had these cars and if so how does the scoob compare?
The scoob is certanily the value car in-terms of what you get for your money but i take it theres a reason?
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 06:14 AM
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And are the P1s not terribly unreliable and need engine rebuilds regular?Spoke to a friend of a friend a while back as he owned one and said not to as he had hated his he had already sold it when we chatted so didnt get a look at it.
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 07:48 AM
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Originally Posted by baba
And are the P1s not terribly unreliable and need engine rebuilds regular?Spoke to a friend of a friend a while back as he owned one and said not to as he had hated his he had already sold it when we chatted so didnt get a look at it.
to get big power out of a p1, most owners have newage parts fitted, though i stand to be corrected, think this applies to classics in general
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 08:15 AM
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Craigo, maybe he doesn't want a 13 year old car. With his budget is be looking at new age too.

Blobs and hawks look great with a couple of minor tweeks. Only mod a WR1 needs is a full respray
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 10:03 AM
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Its gotta be the hawk sti.miles better looking and comes in much better colours.a few little tweeks and you get yourself a nice car for not a lot of money.
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Old Jul 19, 2012 | 06:56 PM
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The hawkeye i was talking of has been sold and the wr1 owner has told me it has rust forming around the arches which has kind of put me off or is this normal?
Today i saw a couple of RB320s for sale and there not a crazy amount more for a more powerfull,newer and unique car im guessing this would be the best of the bunch so far and up there with the jdm?
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