BMW M1 - Stolen in three minutes
17 July 2012, 08:35 AM
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BMW M1 - Stolen in three minutes
This popped up on MSN when I logged in this morning...
Worrying times, police said they usd the OBD and software on a laptop to reprogram a blank key.
Can't have anything nice these days
Worrying times, police said they usd the OBD and software on a laptop to reprogram a blank key.
Can't have anything nice these days
17 July 2012, 09:58 AM
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I'm not having a pop at your post but what if they did get caught? The sentence would be laughable and no deterrent at all that's why these crimes happen in the 1st place.
I did jury service a few months ago and heard criminals laughing about the sentences walking out of court every day!
Even they do the maths! Steal 10 cars and only get caught for one, and then get a slap on the wrist!
It really is a very easy career choice for today's non achiever, and is a result IMO of what not being able to punish kids properly at home and school has done to society, I feel it's just and extension of the "What are you going to do about it!" Culture!
These p**ks have never had a rod of iron keeping them on the straight and narrow, they have no respect for themselves let alone the public or the police!
My mind boggles that these scum not only have no shame in coming onto your property to steal that now they will even attack you if you try to defend it!! I'd love to see the tables turned just once and see a load of chavs steal some of their property and then give em a kicking when they try to defend it!
If they knew they would get getting a mandatory 15 years for any car theft along with another 2 additional offences meaning a life in prison, you just watch the crime rates for this kind of crime plummet.
**Don't leave valuables in your car!***
Why the **** not! I pay may taxes work hard so why should I have to change my lifestyle because of scum!
We need to toughen up in this country, turn HMP travel lodge/ David lloyds style prisons into horrible places and put huge sentences on any crime to do with theft etc or things that affect your decent taxpayer.
Our prisons are full? yeah so what! Don't like it over crowded then don't be a t**t and commit crime!
Broken Britain Strikes again!!
I did jury service a few months ago and heard criminals laughing about the sentences walking out of court every day!
Even they do the maths! Steal 10 cars and only get caught for one, and then get a slap on the wrist!
It really is a very easy career choice for today's non achiever, and is a result IMO of what not being able to punish kids properly at home and school has done to society, I feel it's just and extension of the "What are you going to do about it!" Culture!
These p**ks have never had a rod of iron keeping them on the straight and narrow, they have no respect for themselves let alone the public or the police!
My mind boggles that these scum not only have no shame in coming onto your property to steal that now they will even attack you if you try to defend it!! I'd love to see the tables turned just once and see a load of chavs steal some of their property and then give em a kicking when they try to defend it!
If they knew they would get getting a mandatory 15 years for any car theft along with another 2 additional offences meaning a life in prison, you just watch the crime rates for this kind of crime plummet.
**Don't leave valuables in your car!***
Why the **** not! I pay may taxes work hard so why should I have to change my lifestyle because of scum!
We need to toughen up in this country, turn HMP travel lodge/ David lloyds style prisons into horrible places and put huge sentences on any crime to do with theft etc or things that affect your decent taxpayer.
Our prisons are full? yeah so what! Don't like it over crowded then don't be a t**t and commit crime!
Broken Britain Strikes again!!
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17 July 2012, 10:51 AM
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I have to agree with the comment the chap made above about the length of prison sentences in this country. I'm no expert on the legal system but I also witnessed shocking results from jury service which made me angry.
We were told that a new prison may be built no more than 5 minutes up the road from us and had a questionnaire put through the door basically voting for or against the plan, I had no objection to this because all you ever hear is 'overcrowded prisons' so go ahead and build them, then star dishing out the appropriate length sentence for crimes such as car theft.
Wonder how many new ones could have been built using the Olympics funds
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17 July 2012, 11:00 AM
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Stuff like that makes me so angry...
That poor owner not only goes through the heart break of having something like that stolen but then gets stitched over by the insurance companies in terms of excesses and then reinsurance fees.
I feel really sorry for that owner and there was enough C**Ts there that even if he heard it happening outside, short of getting beaten up there is nothing much he could have done. Another fine example of security cameras being a great idea but funder mentally pointless!
That poor owner not only goes through the heart break of having something like that stolen but then gets stitched over by the insurance companies in terms of excesses and then reinsurance fees.
I feel really sorry for that owner and there was enough C**Ts there that even if he heard it happening outside, short of getting beaten up there is nothing much he could have done. Another fine example of security cameras being a great idea but funder mentally pointless!
17 July 2012, 11:09 AM
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If the OBD was used could the sane happen to our pride and joy? I know financially in another league but all the same plausible?
17 July 2012, 11:18 AM
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Most of the new cars have the "slide" key mate so its easier to reprogramme. Grab one of ebay for a few quid and get the correct software. Then its pretty simple from then on. We still have the keys so there a bit harder to copy unless you can get hold of the master key
17 July 2012, 11:52 AM
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*** jockies.....
punishment for this type of crime is waaaayyy too lenient
And many other crimes if you ask me, encourages criminals to carry out more as its barely a slap on the wrist...
police are good at creating crime reference numbers and very good at filing paperwork away sadly.
punishment for this type of crime is waaaayyy too lenient
And many other crimes if you ask me, encourages criminals to carry out more as its barely a slap on the wrist...
police are good at creating crime reference numbers and very good at filing paperwork away sadly.
17 July 2012, 12:08 PM
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I'm not having a pop at your post but what if they did get caught? The sentence would be laughable and no deterrent at all that's why these crimes happen in the 1st place.
I did jury service a few months ago and heard criminals laughing about the sentences walking out of court every day!
Even they do the maths! Steal 10 cars and only get caught for one, and then get a slap on the wrist!
It really is a very easy career choice for today's non achiever, and is a result IMO of what not being able to punish kids properly at home and school has done to society, I feel it's just and extension of the "What are you going to do about it!" Culture!
These p**ks have never had a rod of iron keeping them on the straight and narrow, they have no respect for themselves let alone the public or the police!
My mind boggles that these scum not only have no shame in coming onto your property to steal that now they will even attack you if you try to defend it!! I'd love to see the tables turned just once and see a load of chavs steal some of their property and then give em a kicking when they try to defend it!
If they knew they would get getting a mandatory 15 years for any car theft along with another 2 additional offences meaning a life in prison, you just watch the crime rates for this kind of crime plummet.
**Don't leave valuables in your car!***
Why the **** not! I pay may taxes work hard so why should I have to change my lifestyle because of scum!
We need to toughen up in this country, turn HMP travel lodge/ David lloyds style prisons into horrible places and put huge sentences on any crime to do with theft etc or things that affect your decent taxpayer.
Our prisons are full? yeah so what! Don't like it over crowded then don't be a t**t and commit crime!
Broken Britain Strikes again!!
I did jury service a few months ago and heard criminals laughing about the sentences walking out of court every day!
Even they do the maths! Steal 10 cars and only get caught for one, and then get a slap on the wrist!
It really is a very easy career choice for today's non achiever, and is a result IMO of what not being able to punish kids properly at home and school has done to society, I feel it's just and extension of the "What are you going to do about it!" Culture!
These p**ks have never had a rod of iron keeping them on the straight and narrow, they have no respect for themselves let alone the public or the police!
My mind boggles that these scum not only have no shame in coming onto your property to steal that now they will even attack you if you try to defend it!! I'd love to see the tables turned just once and see a load of chavs steal some of their property and then give em a kicking when they try to defend it!
If they knew they would get getting a mandatory 15 years for any car theft along with another 2 additional offences meaning a life in prison, you just watch the crime rates for this kind of crime plummet.
**Don't leave valuables in your car!***
Why the **** not! I pay may taxes work hard so why should I have to change my lifestyle because of scum!
We need to toughen up in this country, turn HMP travel lodge/ David lloyds style prisons into horrible places and put huge sentences on any crime to do with theft etc or things that affect your decent taxpayer.
Our prisons are full? yeah so what! Don't like it over crowded then don't be a t**t and commit crime!
Broken Britain Strikes again!!
If the prisons are full, then get the ones who are doing community service to provide labour to build the prisons to reduce the cost to the taxpayer
17 July 2012, 12:13 PM
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17 July 2012, 12:24 PM
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The poor bugger kept his keys upstairs with him! Just makes you think... What other security options can you have along side what you already use!
17 July 2012, 12:47 PM
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It shock my wife up more Andy, as it was her car she drove daily.
Tobe honest i would have been less upset if the took my car with its tracker and blackjaxx fitted they wouldn't have got far at all.
Worst thing for her is that her work laptop was in the boot and she lost quite a bit of work from that going.
Interestingly enough her work tracked the laptop down about week later to Switerland!
As normal the Police were best to no use at all! They responded quick enough but after that they have made no attempt to review cctv along near the A10 where i live. (Enfield Council has the most CCTV cameras in all of the london boroughs apparently!)
Inside knowledge.
How did they know that you hang your keys in this specific closed location?
Who knows, would make sense i suppose to look there, but as a few other cars have gone missin in my area over the last month sounds like they were scouting the place for a while.
Mel
Tobe honest i would have been less upset if the took my car with its tracker and blackjaxx fitted they wouldn't have got far at all.
Worst thing for her is that her work laptop was in the boot and she lost quite a bit of work from that going.
Interestingly enough her work tracked the laptop down about week later to Switerland!
As normal the Police were best to no use at all! They responded quick enough but after that they have made no attempt to review cctv along near the A10 where i live. (Enfield Council has the most CCTV cameras in all of the london boroughs apparently!)
Originally Posted by urban
Inside knowledge.
How did they know that you hang your keys in this specific closed location?
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17 July 2012, 01:00 PM
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Cheers Ricky,
Its gutting mate, but just glad they didnt break in and come upstairs while we were asleep, as god knows what could have happened, would have scared the life out of my son and the mother in law who is staying with us at the moment.
End of the day as much as i would happily castrate the buggers who did it, i prefer to know that its just a material thing and can be replaced.
My familys safety comes first and always will.
Insurance are now sorting out a replacement car, luckily LV have a policy for new cars less then a year old, they get replaced like for like with a new car/model.
So cant fault the way they have handled the claim, would recommend them to anyone.
Mel
Its gutting mate, but just glad they didnt break in and come upstairs while we were asleep, as god knows what could have happened, would have scared the life out of my son and the mother in law who is staying with us at the moment.
End of the day as much as i would happily castrate the buggers who did it, i prefer to know that its just a material thing and can be replaced.
My familys safety comes first and always will.
Insurance are now sorting out a replacement car, luckily LV have a policy for new cars less then a year old, they get replaced like for like with a new car/model.
So cant fault the way they have handled the claim, would recommend them to anyone.
Mel
17 July 2012, 01:22 PM
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Main thing is your all your safe & sound 
ps I hate letter boxes and instead have a large metal mail box outside and a new PVC type triple lock front door with no glass & no letter box. You hear stories of arsonists pouring god dam petrol and stuff through letter boxes!!
(ps wouldn't mind if it was Shell V power though!! lololl
)
ps I hate letter boxes and instead have a large metal mail box outside and a new PVC type triple lock front door with no glass & no letter box. You hear stories of arsonists pouring god dam petrol and stuff through letter boxes!!
(ps wouldn't mind if it was Shell V power though!! lololl
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17 July 2012, 03:08 PM
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It really is a very easy career choice for today's non achiever, and is a result IMO of what not being able to punish kids properly at home and school has done to society, I feel it's just and extension of the "What are you going to do about it!" Culture!
These p**ks have never had a rod of iron keeping them on the straight and narrow, they have no respect for themselves let alone the public or the police!
**Don't leave valuables in your car!***
Why the **** not! I pay may taxes work hard so why should I have to change my lifestyle because of scum!
Broken Britain Strikes again!! (snipped)
These p**ks have never had a rod of iron keeping them on the straight and narrow, they have no respect for themselves let alone the public or the police!
**Don't leave valuables in your car!***
Why the **** not! I pay may taxes work hard so why should I have to change my lifestyle because of scum!
Broken Britain Strikes again!! (snipped)
Things have been around the wrong way for too long. I suppose we all have to go back to basics - dobermans that follow through, and decent firm handed parenting.
17 July 2012, 05:54 PM
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Well guys not only do i work for BMW but, we ourselves in the last 2 weeks have had a limited edition M3 stolen for 1 of our underground carparks. The thing with that video i cant work out is, How did they open the drivers window to start with to get to the OBD socket.
17 July 2012, 06:09 PM
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This is what I fitted, Vigilo 2250 behind the gates which are hydraulic and magnetically locked. The power can be killed overnite so even if they get in the garage(alarmed),find the keys remotes etc,,its going nowhere
17 July 2012, 06:58 PM
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I'm not having a pop at your post but what if they did get caught? The sentence would be laughable and no deterrent at all that's why these crimes happen in the 1st place.
I did jury service a few months ago and heard criminals laughing about the sentences walking out of court every day!
Even they do the maths! Steal 10 cars and only get caught for one, and then get a slap on the wrist!
It really is a very easy career choice for today's non achiever, and is a result IMO of what not being able to punish kids properly at home and school has done to society, I feel it's just and extension of the "What are you going to do about it!" Culture!
These p**ks have never had a rod of iron keeping them on the straight and narrow, they have no respect for themselves let alone the public or the police!
My mind boggles that these scum not only have no shame in coming onto your property to steal that now they will even attack you if you try to defend it!! I'd love to see the tables turned just once and see a load of chavs steal some of their property and then give em a kicking when they try to defend it!
If they knew they would get getting a mandatory 15 years for any car theft along with another 2 additional offences meaning a life in prison, you just watch the crime rates for this kind of crime plummet.
**Don't leave valuables in your car!***
Why the **** not! I pay may taxes work hard so why should I have to change my lifestyle because of scum!
We need to toughen up in this country, turn HMP travel lodge/ David lloyds style prisons into horrible places and put huge sentences on any crime to do with theft etc or things that affect your decent taxpayer.
Our prisons are full? yeah so what! Don't like it over crowded then don't be a t**t and commit crime!
Broken Britain Strikes again!!
I did jury service a few months ago and heard criminals laughing about the sentences walking out of court every day!
Even they do the maths! Steal 10 cars and only get caught for one, and then get a slap on the wrist!
It really is a very easy career choice for today's non achiever, and is a result IMO of what not being able to punish kids properly at home and school has done to society, I feel it's just and extension of the "What are you going to do about it!" Culture!
These p**ks have never had a rod of iron keeping them on the straight and narrow, they have no respect for themselves let alone the public or the police!
My mind boggles that these scum not only have no shame in coming onto your property to steal that now they will even attack you if you try to defend it!! I'd love to see the tables turned just once and see a load of chavs steal some of their property and then give em a kicking when they try to defend it!
If they knew they would get getting a mandatory 15 years for any car theft along with another 2 additional offences meaning a life in prison, you just watch the crime rates for this kind of crime plummet.
**Don't leave valuables in your car!***
Why the **** not! I pay may taxes work hard so why should I have to change my lifestyle because of scum!
We need to toughen up in this country, turn HMP travel lodge/ David lloyds style prisons into horrible places and put huge sentences on any crime to do with theft etc or things that affect your decent taxpayer.
Our prisons are full? yeah so what! Don't like it over crowded then don't be a t**t and commit crime!
Broken Britain Strikes again!!
Good post and rant though, agree with everything you have said here.
