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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 03:37 PM
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Hi,

Since having my WRX STi Spec D 07/07, I have had to put approx half a litre of oil in it to top it up (2 lots of approx 250ml)

I've done around 1,650 miles in it so far, some spirited driving, but not a huge amount really.

Is this about right would you say? I guess with the engine temperatures involved, it's going to burn some oil, but how much is normal?

It's done 23,500 miles now, but hopefully it's not turning into an oil burner already?!! I don't see any smoke in the rear view mirror or anywhere else, no smoke on cold / hot starts either.

The oil in the engine already is clean, and the previous owner had is serviced in March this year with 21,012 miles on the clock, (Subaru dealer, on the invoice says fully sythetic 5w 30 oil)

I'm using Helix Ultra AG 5w 30, as sold to me by a Subaru dealer.

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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 03:53 PM
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That's 1 litre per 3300 miles which is well within the excepted limits.
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 03:56 PM
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Originally Posted by chopperman
That's 1 litre per 3300 miles which is well within the excepted limits.

Ok, cool. So I needn't worry then?
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 03:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye D
Ok, cool. So I needn't worry then?
No.
What oil are you using?
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 04:03 PM
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Originally Posted by chopperman
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What oil are you using?
Helix Ultra AG 5w 30 fully synthetic oil.

Subaru sold it to me when I popped in there last week as a top up pack.
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 04:13 PM
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HI
ive got an sti 2.5 and i top it up monthly,it works out just over 1 litre for every 10.000 miles and its had plenty of B rad blasts and motorway runs its done 60k
Im no expert but ive been told thats normal for a 2.5?
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye D
Helix Ultra AG 5w 30 fully synthetic oil.

Subaru sold it to me when I popped in there last week as a top up pack.
Most manufactures say 1 litre per 1000 miles is the limit although i think that's very excessive.

5w 30 seems a bit light to me. I always used a 5w 40 and used a little oil, probably about the same as you.
I recently have had my engine re-built forged by a respected engine builder and he told me to use at least a 10w 50. He went on to say " no 5w in a 2.5 under any circumstances". Not sure why but i would be interested to know if anyone here can give an informed answer.
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i use millers 10-60 in the 2.5 and use to use 10-50 in the ej20 motor....???
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Never had to top mine up more than 100ml between oil changes every 3k

I always use a 10w50 oil and would never use a 5w30 oil in any engine I want to keep in good condition. I have worked in the engine development, testing and calibration industry far too long to ever use a 5w30 through choice.

5w30 is only specified to give good fuel economy, almost all manufacturers are specifying this oil and some going to 5w20 and thinner in the aim of gaining a reduction in CO2.

Any engine used hard should run a higher grade as it says in the manual ( on the right hand side).

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what he said^^
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 05:48 PM
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They use 5 30 at main dealer to much to thin ,i always take my own oil when serviced millers
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 06:42 PM
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I would be interested to compare oil usage with different viscosity oils.
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Originally Posted by chopperman
I would be interested to compare oil usage with different viscosity oils.

+1

I'm thinking maybe a 10w 50 change will be for the better.

They do a Fuchs Titan Race Pro S oil on Opie, so may give that a go.

Anyone tried / tested that oil? It's an ester based fully synthetic

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-68898-fu...ngine-oil.aspx
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Previous to my 08 sti, I had a golf r32 which didn't use a drop. This made me a bit paranoid when I noticed that my Scooby was using oil, especially when you hear the horror stories of ringland failure. I took it into the dealers and apparsntly the word from Subaru is that 1l per 1300 miles is fine.
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Originally Posted by Hawkeye D
+1

I'm thinking maybe a 10w 50 change will be for the better.

They do a Fuchs Titan Race Pro S oil on Opie, so may give that a go.

Anyone tried / tested that oil? It's an ester based fully synthetic

http://www.opieoils.co.uk/p-68898-fu...ngine-oil.aspx
Thats the oil i have always used, Fuch Titan race pro. It's an excellent oil and as i said in another thread, i have just had a forged re-build on my engine and was told by the builder my internals were in excellent condition.
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Owning MY07 RB320 from new, i've always changed the oil & filter every 6 months.
I use Fuchs Titan Race Pro S, 5w 40 & never had to top up between service intervals!
I also use K&N oil filters..

However, i've got 5 litres of Millers CFS 5w 40 NT, ready for the 50k service!
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Old Jul 15, 2012 | 07:50 PM
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Originally Posted by IggyRB320
Owning MY07 RB320 from new, i've always changed the oil & filter every 6 months.
I use Fuchs Titan Race Pro S, 5w 40 & never had to top up between service intervals!
I also use K&N oil filters..

However, i've got 5 litres of Millers CFS 5w 40 NT, ready for the 50k service!
I bought some Millers CFS because Opie had a deal going but then i was told by Mr Finch to used 10w 50 and not the 5w oil for some reason. The misses Honda jazz got the millers in the end. Complete over kill in that car but it saved buying more oil for that
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Originally Posted by chopperman
Thats the oil i have always used, Fuch Titan race pro. It's an excellent oil and as i said in another thread, i have just had a forged re-build on my engine and was told by the builder my internals were in excellent condition.
+1 from me too, thats the oil I use.
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Scary oil consumption though.

IMHO the car should be ordinarily able to go between service intervals without a top up. Bad of Subaru to claim otherwise, even though it's best practise to keep an eye on the level.

2.5 bores obviously move around all over the place.

2L here, nearly 40k miles from new, never used a single drop as far as i can tell from the dipstick. More torque would be nice though - hmmm.
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The Fuch's stuff is apparently the same as Silkolene Pro S.
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Originally Posted by matt-c
The Fuch's stuff is apparently the same as Silkolene Pro S.
Silkolene was re-branded as Fuch. And my 2.5 doesn't use any oil. Im told it depend on how there run in. Running in with no boost can cause them to become oil burners. Im running mine in now with a running in map that gives me 0.5 bar to bed the rings in.
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Originally Posted by chopperman
Silkolene was re-branded as Fuch. And my 2.5 doesn't use any oil. Im told it depend on how there run in. Running in with no boost can cause them to become oil burners. Im running mine in now with a running in map that gives me 0.5 bar to bed the rings in.

Interesting, glad you don't have an oil burner.
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Mine doesn't use a drop, it is a 2ltr though
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Originally Posted by chopperman
Silkolene was re-branded as Fuch. And my 2.5 doesn't use any oil. Im told it depend on how there run in. Running in with no boost can cause them to become oil burners. Im running mine in now with a running in map that gives me 0.5 bar to bed the rings in.
I'm using Millers and I'm going through loads in my 2.5. There's a class action law suit going on in America cos loads have suffered engine problems after drivers haven't realised their engine is out of oil... Apparently very common to burn alot, can lead to excessive engine wear high emissions and bad economy. It is fun tho aye. Keep checking it.
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Originally Posted by chopperman
Most manufactures say 1 litre per 1000 miles is the limit although i think that's very excessive.

5w 30 seems a bit light to me. I always used a 5w 40 and used a little oil, probably about the same as you.
I recently have had my engine re-built forged by a respected engine builder and he told me to use at least a 10w 50. He went on to say " no 5w in a 2.5 under any circumstances". Not sure why but i would be interested to know if anyone here can give an informed answer.
I took mine to a specialist who builds and drag races classic imprezas with modded 2.5 engines, and he too advised me to only use Millers 10w 60. Bloody expensive and I burn a hell of a lot.
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