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Old 11 February 2012, 06:35 PM
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http://www.p1woc.co.uk/forums/showthread.php?t=31137 what you got?
Old 11 February 2012, 06:46 PM
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numbers are all that counts, lol

in all seriousness, some love figures, some just love how it drives

different strokes an all that...

does it really matter why some like one over the other, not in the fckin slightest, its your car/build, use it as you wish.

to me, anyone that has some sort of issue with how others use/disply figures or times is the sad one, for actually letting it bother them that much lol
Old 11 February 2012, 06:51 PM
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Originally Posted by stealthy55
That figure is irrelevant without knowing the box and gear ran in.
Old 11 February 2012, 07:22 PM
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really? everbody states bhp then does nothing to prove it you of all people know about dyno figures, as you also know in gear times are better than bhp pub figures, so do you want dick waving figures? or proper on the road figures?
Old 11 February 2012, 07:25 PM
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WTF you going on about Stealthy. I'm on about your acceleration figures you turnip, not dyno figures!! lol
Old 11 February 2012, 07:32 PM
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thats what im saying? you can have great bhp but slow times bhp is not the be all and end all
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Right... I'll say one more time for you!

I'm assuming the thread you have linked to is suggesting that dyno figures mean **** and it's what the car does on the black stuff that's relevant. I agree 100%, however you have already asked whether or not that time is quick or whatever.... I'm saying you'd need to state what type of box you have and what gear it was run in, if you want any meaningful feedback from anyone else.

Understand me now mate?
Old 11 February 2012, 07:40 PM
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Right... I'll say one more time for you!

I'm assuming the thread you have linked to is suggesting that dyno figures mean **** and it's what the car does on the black stuff that's relevant. I agree 100%, however you have already asked whether or not that time is quick or whatever.... I'm saying you'd need to state what type of box you have and what gear it was run in, if you want any meaningful feedback from anyone else.

Understand me now mate?
got you , bhp or how quick is it? newage power to weight jdm or uk, out of interest what weight is your car? 60 -100 what gear?
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my point, does it matter?

its your car, claimed bhp figures or not, who really cares?

does it bother people that much that someoe else is claiming more power ect ect - enough to post on a forum that your disgruntled? thats the sad thing imo.
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Originally Posted by jef
my point, does it matter?

its your car, claimed bhp figures or not, who really cares?

does it bother people that much that someoe else is claiming more power ect ect - enough to post on a forum that your disgruntled? thats the sad thing imo.
absoulety not some will go to many rr trying to get the best figures whereas on the road figures tells you how quick it is, thats why there is 30-130 and the drag strip for those that cant make those two theres always the old fashioned "in gear" times,
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Arguments, jesus, does it matter?

I have mine set up the way I want it, I did start chasing numbers then took a step back to see what I actually wanted from the car, so set about, and got it to a very good stage. I yet to go on track or drag strip to see about times. But I love the way its set, plus also made sure it stays on the road.

Hey how less of that.

Enjoy your cars. And have fun.
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Originally Posted by stealthy55
got you , bhp or how quick is it? newage power to weight jdm or uk, out of interest what weight is your car? 60 -100 what gear?
I've never weighed this current car properly mate, but it's certainly not light. lol

With the current spec I'm achieving 60-100mph in 4.1s. That's in 4th on a 6sp box.

In comparison a Newage 2.5ltr at 368bhp did it (same gear) in 5.9s.
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Cant see the link and cant be arsed to join up just to view it..
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Originally Posted by Shaun
I've never weighed this current car properly mate, but it's certainly not light. lol

With the current spec I'm achieving 60-100mph in 4.1s. That's in 4th on a 6sp box.

In comparison a Newage 2.5ltr at 368bhp did it (same gear) in 5.9s.
that is very quick, are the jdm and uk 4th different? sorry if this has been posted 3 million times
Old 11 February 2012, 10:14 PM
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so can a 250bhp scooby be compared to a 500bhp scooby in terms of acceleration , mid range and top end ?? nope , so the figures do mean something
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Of course they do, otherwise Stealthy would be doing the same time with 200bhp less !
Old 12 February 2012, 08:20 AM
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Originally Posted by MartynJ
Of course they do, otherwise Stealthy would be doing the same time with 200bhp less !
depends whose rollers i use
Old 12 February 2012, 09:49 AM
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I'd go for consistent ones if I were you
Old 12 February 2012, 09:55 AM
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Originally Posted by MartynJ
I'd go for consistent ones if I were you
i did but i prefer the times to a bit of paper
Old 12 February 2012, 10:39 AM
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Me too m8, on the strip is where it's at.
Old 12 February 2012, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by stealthy55
that is very quick, are the jdm and uk 4th different? sorry if this has been posted 3 million times
on the newage jdm and uk are same ratio up to and including 4th but differ 5th and 6th.
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Originally Posted by MartynJ
Me too m8, on the strip is where it's at.
yeah but i dont fancy spending 4kish on some fancy driveshafts because ive broke the originals, at the proper strip that is
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Originally Posted by trevsjwood
on the newage jdm and uk are same ratio up to and including 4th but differ 5th and 6th.
Trev
Not 100% factual.

They match up to and including 4th for Newage up to Hawkeye 6sp'ders.

Hawkeye JDM there is no difference but UK Hawkeye is longer gearing.
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Originally Posted by jef
my point, does it matter?

its your car, claimed bhp figures or not, who really cares?

does it bother people that much that someoe else is claiming more power ect ect - enough to post on a forum that your disgruntled? thats the sad thing imo.

+1 to that jef m8
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Originally Posted by stealthy55
yeah but i dont fancy spending 4kish on some fancy driveshafts because ive broke the originals, at the proper strip that is
I reckon you'd be ok
Arf hasn't managed to break his with 650bhp
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Out of interest, as you can, go do a 30-130 run too.
Be interested in that data.
Old 12 February 2012, 05:13 PM
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Originally Posted by MartynJ
I reckon you'd be ok
Arf hasn't managed to break his with 650bhp
dont forget martyn, theres 650 and theres 650 joking aside still scare the **** out me the thought of breaking a rear, mine wont be 500 for long
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Arf's car has made 650bhp on two DD dyno's on different sides of the counrty, so I'm fairly happy that it's bang on
A 10.74 1/4 mile from a lardy Newage isn't to be sniffed at either.
If you actually get brave enough to try a 1/4 mile, you'll see what I mean.

Martyn
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Originally Posted by MartynJ
Out of interest, as you can, go do a 30-130 run too.
Be interested in that data.
tried it for the 1st time ever a couple of wks ago, driver error could of played a part as gear change could of been slow, did it in 11.9 doht know if thats good bad or indifferent, think it was slightly up hill but not making excuses, just need practice
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Originally Posted by MartynJ
Arf's car has made 650bhp on two DD dyno's on different sides of the counrty, so I'm fairly happy that it's bang on
A 10.74 1/4 mile from a lardy Newage isn't to be sniffed at either.
If you actually get brave enough to try a 1/4 mile, you'll see what I mean.

Martyn
that was tongue in cheek martyn hence the smileys, 10s would be very difficult for me but car will be capable once its got proper map, thats why ive stuck with in gear times

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