Notices
ScoobyNet General General Subaru Discussion

Simtek Owners - How Do You Feel About The New Simtek ECU?

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old 01 February 2012, 08:08 PM
  #1  
Cannon Fodder
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (100)
 
Cannon Fodder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 13,684
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Unhappy Simtek Owners - How Do You Feel About The New Simtek ECU?

Having contributed to a thread in the General Technical forum only to see it removed, and any debate by default removed I thought I would start this thread to see what other Simtek owners are thinking.

Personally I do feel that the new Simtek is a worthy alternative to the Syvecs offering and it appears to be very favourably priced as well, BUT this now raises some very poignant points (for me anyway):

1. It is a real shame that the features that were always on the horizon such as knock control and a few others will never now probably see the light of day.

2. Let's be totally honest this is going to affect the price that the units currently fitted in our cars can be sold for second hand, so as some owners do upgrade how will this affect the used resale value?

I have left some other points off in order to allow others to post their thoughts but the two points above have struck me.

I would imagine that some current Simtek owners will quite happily stay with what they have as it functions as they want, but there are others who have stuck with the current Simtek as they have been waiting for the features to be added which have been on the horizon.

This is meant for debate and please don't turn it into a slanging match.
Old 01 February 2012, 08:30 PM
  #2  
Turbotits
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Turbotits's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 4,312
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Tend to agree. Ive been waiting and hopeing for an upgraded software version with knock control etc. Doubt that will ever happen now. Im sure the new kit is great. It would be nice if exsiting simtek customers were offered some form of upgrade maybe discounted rather than forgotton.
Old 01 February 2012, 08:31 PM
  #3  
EngineMapper @ Group B Motorsport
Engine Specialist
 
EngineMapper @ Group B Motorsport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Wrexham, North Wales
Posts: 554
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

The thread was removed by admin and is reposted in Trader Announcements! No underhand tactics involved. Just thought I'd clarify that.

Graham
Old 01 February 2012, 08:34 PM
  #4  
addi monster
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
addi monster's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: north of the south border
Posts: 4,510
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

im happy with what i have got tbh, my simtek does everthing i want, as for resale ect this wont bother me as im keeping it, just my opinion.
steve
Old 01 February 2012, 08:34 PM
  #5  
Steve Whitehorn
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (13)
 
Steve Whitehorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Kent
Posts: 4,036
Received 19 Likes on 17 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Turbotits
Tend to agree. Ive been waiting and hopeing for an upgraded software version with knock control etc. Doubt that will ever happen now. Im sure the new kit is great. It would be nice if exsiting simtek customers were offered some form of upgrade maybe discounted rather than forgotton.

Spot on
I have been waiting for a software update with Knock Control to come along for ever.
Old 01 February 2012, 08:34 PM
  #6  
Saalro
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (8)
 
Saalro's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: N/A
Posts: 2,310
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

It's like anything though isn't it unfortunately.

Thanks
Sam
Old 01 February 2012, 08:34 PM
  #7  
kenc
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (6)
 
kenc's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Posts: 834
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Well im very dissapointed, i wasnt expecting miracles, but i was waiting/ hoping for a few feature updates. Only my opinion but i cant see the resale value being anything but dismal.. and the 2nd hand demand even more dismal
Old 01 February 2012, 08:35 PM
  #8  
Cannon Fodder
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (100)
 
Cannon Fodder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 13,684
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by EngineMapper
The thread was removed by admin and is reposted in Trader Announcements! No underhand tactics involved. Just thought I'd clarify that.

Graham
No problem, to be honest I didn't think that you had asked for it to be removed for 1 second. I thought I would post this thread so that any debate could take place away from the Trader's Marketplace.
Old 01 February 2012, 08:37 PM
  #9  
EngineMapper @ Group B Motorsport
Engine Specialist
 
EngineMapper @ Group B Motorsport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Wrexham, North Wales
Posts: 554
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

No problem, there are some very cynical posters around who think everything that happens is a giant conspiracy! lol
Old 01 February 2012, 08:38 PM
  #10  
snake1906
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
snake1906's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: cornwall
Posts: 1,151
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

as some of you know im not happy with my simtek and as others i have been waiting for upgrades to be honest i wish id stayed with the standard ecu
Old 01 February 2012, 08:41 PM
  #11  
banny sti
Scooby Senior
iTrader: (68)
 
banny sti's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2004
Location: Type R
Posts: 16,598
Received 22 Likes on 16 Posts
Default

Glad I gave up waiting for the updates and moved on to a syvecs
Old 01 February 2012, 08:43 PM
  #12  
Steve Whitehorn
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (13)
 
Steve Whitehorn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Kent
Posts: 4,036
Received 19 Likes on 17 Posts
Default

I am basically very happy with it.
Idle can bugger about on it.
Two fuel maps fine with me and launch and anti lag.
Just was really hoping for the Knock correction be to sorted out as a software upgrade

Last edited by Steve Whitehorn; 01 February 2012 at 08:45 PM.
Old 01 February 2012, 08:43 PM
  #13  
EngineMapper @ Group B Motorsport
Engine Specialist
 
EngineMapper @ Group B Motorsport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Wrexham, North Wales
Posts: 554
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by snake1906
as some of you know im not happy with my simtek and as others i have been waiting for upgrades to be honest i wish id stayed with the standard ecu
As both Steve and I posted, it is likely we can help you, so get in touch! If you're not happy with it, then it needs to be sorted.

Graham
Old 01 February 2012, 08:45 PM
  #14  
Turbotits
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (2)
 
Turbotits's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Hertfordshire
Posts: 4,312
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by banny sti
Glad I gave up waiting for the updates and moved on to a syvecs
That may well be my next move. I could of course buy the new simtek. But see no point in being loyal to to the brand.
Old 01 February 2012, 08:45 PM
  #15  
leecalcars
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (37)
 
leecalcars's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: never far away from my impreza
Posts: 7,843
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

As mentioned previously im happy with my simtek works perfectly apart from no knock control was thinking of getting the LC added on my next map in a few months time so everything i need right now .
I know development is a big factor as with pc's and tv's also phones you just cant keep up so whats new about a cars ecu ? nothing this will always happen as we move forward ,yes second hand price now will drop but thats the same as any other aftermarket ecu just like the apexi before it etc...
Old 01 February 2012, 08:54 PM
  #16  
53
Scooby Senior
iTrader: (41)
 
53's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Standing Up
Posts: 16,742
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

1. It is a real shame that the features that were always on the horizon such as knock control and a few others will never now probably see the light of day.

2. Let's be totally honest this is going to affect the price that the units currently fitted in our cars can be sold for second hand, so as some owners do upgrade how will this affect the used resale value?
I think you're bang on, exactly the same thoughts I had when I read the announcement. I wanna know...

Seeing that this is a thread about the Simtek Range, can we have an update on what is available in terms of upgrades or some might argue patches for the old simtek.
Old 01 February 2012, 08:55 PM
  #17  
snake1906
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
snake1906's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: cornwall
Posts: 1,151
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by EngineMapper
As both Steve and I posted, it is likely we can help you, so get in touch! If you're not happy with it, then it needs to be sorted.

Graham
i didnt see steves response? the thread had gone by the time i got back on the laptop this evening
Old 01 February 2012, 08:57 PM
  #18  
EngineMapper @ Group B Motorsport
Engine Specialist
 
EngineMapper @ Group B Motorsport's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: Wrexham, North Wales
Posts: 554
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

He said, get your *** up to his dyno and he will try and sort whatever issues you have FOC!!
Old 01 February 2012, 08:57 PM
  #19  
53
Scooby Senior
iTrader: (41)
 
53's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Standing Up
Posts: 16,742
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

^ And if it was only moved why did all the posts disappear, they don't get deleted just for being moved
Old 01 February 2012, 08:59 PM
  #20  
yellowevo
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (25)
 
yellowevo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2008
Posts: 377
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 53
I think you're bang on, exactly the same thoughts I had when I read the announcement. I wanna know...




x2 not impressed at all
Old 01 February 2012, 09:01 PM
  #21  
Cannon Fodder
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (100)
 
Cannon Fodder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 13,684
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 53
^ And if it was only moved why did all the posts disappear, they don't get deleted just for being moved
Personally I think it was moved into a none members section (which do exist on here) or deleted as the thread might have been classed as an advertising feature which should have been in the Trader's Marketplace.

And as the ESC know all too well, threads can just be there one minute and gone the next.
Old 01 February 2012, 09:02 PM
  #22  
ronjeramy
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
ronjeramy's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2006
Location: Cas Vegas
Posts: 7,833
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

As a current Simtek owner I'm a bit disappointed as it seems that we've been dumped in favour of the new ecu with regards to any new updates. If I do change ecu in the future I dont think I'll have another Simtek. For me it smacks of got your money not bothered about you. Poor, very poor.
Old 01 February 2012, 09:04 PM
  #23  
53
Scooby Senior
iTrader: (41)
 
53's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Standing Up
Posts: 16,742
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
Personally I think it was moved into a none members section (which do exist on here) or deleted as the thread might have been classed as an advertising feature which should have been in the Trader's Marketplace.

And as the ESC know all too well, threads can just be there one minute and gone the next.
G'immy an example
Old 01 February 2012, 09:06 PM
  #24  
Cannon Fodder
Scooby Regular
Thread Starter
iTrader: (100)
 
Cannon Fodder's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Location: Planet Earth
Posts: 13,684
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by 53
G'immy an example
Now now I don't want this thread disappearing into Area 51 as well.
Old 01 February 2012, 09:07 PM
  #25  
Anger
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Anger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Surrey
Posts: 4,848
Received 30 Likes on 17 Posts
Default

My Simtek went back 2 times to be fixed... Gave up and moved on to Syvecs and its been spot on
Old 01 February 2012, 09:07 PM
  #26  
beezor
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (1)
 
beezor's Avatar
 
Join Date: Oct 2008
Posts: 253
Likes: 0
Received 1 Like on 1 Post
Default

Originally Posted by ronjeramy
As a current Simtek owner I'm a bit disappointed as it seems that we've been dumped in favour of the new ecu with regards to any new updates. If I do change ecu in the future I dont think I'll have another Simtek. For me it smacks of got your money not bothered about you. Poor, very poor.
I think that pretty much hits the nail on the head.
Old 01 February 2012, 09:11 PM
  #27  
53
Scooby Senior
iTrader: (41)
 
53's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2005
Location: Standing Up
Posts: 16,742
Received 4 Likes on 3 Posts
Default

^ @Anger I am thinking the same, albeit the price to cash out of simtek has now risen due to a lower return for selling my existing unit !

So what is available in terms of upgrades or some might argue patches for the old simtek, that were promised for the last 2+ years ? I bought my Simtek in March 2008, initially mapped by a ******** and subsequently remapped by a legend but still not aware of the proper updates that were promised ?
Old 01 February 2012, 09:13 PM
  #28  
snake1906
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
snake1906's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2010
Location: cornwall
Posts: 1,151
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

[QUOTE=Anger;10464924]My Simtek went back 2 times to be fixed... Gave up and moved on to Syvecs and its been spot on

what was the problem with yours m8?
Old 01 February 2012, 09:22 PM
  #29  
jayallen
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (31)
 
jayallen's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: The Fabulist Hunter
Posts: 7,899
Likes: 0
Received 0 Likes on 0 Posts
Default

So i guess the updates were NEVER coming? Instead focus was put on releasing a new version.
Old 01 February 2012, 09:33 PM
  #30  
Anger
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Anger's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Surrey
Posts: 4,848
Received 30 Likes on 17 Posts
Default

[quote=snake1906;10464943]
Originally Posted by Anger
My Simtek went back 2 times to be fixed... Gave up and moved on to Syvecs and its been spot on

what was the problem with yours m8?
First one wouldnt let the car start sometimes and second kept on leaving the ignition on and draining the battery


Quick Reply: Simtek Owners - How Do You Feel About The New Simtek ECU?



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 03:20 AM.