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Cannon Fodder 01 February 2012 08:08 PM

Simtek Owners - How Do You Feel About The New Simtek ECU?
 
Having contributed to a thread in the General Technical forum only to see it removed, and any debate by default removed I thought I would start this thread to see what other Simtek owners are thinking.

Personally I do feel that the new Simtek is a worthy alternative to the Syvecs offering and it appears to be very favourably priced as well, BUT this now raises some very poignant points (for me anyway):

1. It is a real shame that the features that were always on the horizon such as knock control and a few others will never now probably see the light of day.

2. Let's be totally honest this is going to affect the price that the units currently fitted in our cars can be sold for second hand, so as some owners do upgrade how will this affect the used resale value?

I have left some other points off in order to allow others to post their thoughts but the two points above have struck me.

I would imagine that some current Simtek owners will quite happily stay with what they have as it functions as they want, but there are others who have stuck with the current Simtek as they have been waiting for the features to be added which have been on the horizon.

This is meant for debate and please don't turn it into a slanging match.

Turbotits 01 February 2012 08:30 PM

Tend to agree. Ive been waiting and hopeing for an upgraded software version with knock control etc. Doubt that will ever happen now. Im sure the new kit is great. It would be nice if exsiting simtek customers were offered some form of upgrade maybe discounted rather than forgotton.

EngineMapper @ Group B Motorsport 01 February 2012 08:31 PM

The thread was removed by admin and is reposted in Trader Announcements! No underhand tactics involved. Just thought I'd clarify that.

Graham

addi monster 01 February 2012 08:34 PM

im happy with what i have got tbh, my simtek does everthing i want, as for resale ect this wont bother me as im keeping it, just my opinion.
steve

Steve Whitehorn 01 February 2012 08:34 PM


Originally Posted by Turbotits (Post 10464806)
Tend to agree. Ive been waiting and hopeing for an upgraded software version with knock control etc. Doubt that will ever happen now. Im sure the new kit is great. It would be nice if exsiting simtek customers were offered some form of upgrade maybe discounted rather than forgotton.


Spot on
I have been waiting for a software update with Knock Control to come along for ever.

Saalro 01 February 2012 08:34 PM

It's like anything though isn't it unfortunately.

Thanks
Sam

kenc 01 February 2012 08:34 PM

Well im very dissapointed, i wasnt expecting miracles, but i was waiting/ hoping for a few feature updates. Only my opinion but i cant see the resale value being anything but dismal.. and the 2nd hand demand even more dismal:(

Cannon Fodder 01 February 2012 08:35 PM


Originally Posted by EngineMapper (Post 10464809)
The thread was removed by admin and is reposted in Trader Announcements! No underhand tactics involved. Just thought I'd clarify that.

Graham

No problem, to be honest I didn't think that you had asked for it to be removed for 1 second. I thought I would post this thread so that any debate could take place away from the Trader's Marketplace. :)

EngineMapper @ Group B Motorsport 01 February 2012 08:37 PM

No problem, there are some very cynical posters around who think everything that happens is a giant conspiracy! lol

snake1906 01 February 2012 08:38 PM

as some of you know im not happy with my simtek and as others i have been waiting for upgrades to be honest i wish id stayed with the standard ecu

banny sti 01 February 2012 08:41 PM

Glad I gave up waiting for the updates and moved on to a syvecs

Steve Whitehorn 01 February 2012 08:43 PM

I am basically very happy with it.
Idle can bugger about on it.
Two fuel maps fine with me and launch and anti lag.
Just was really hoping for the Knock correction be to sorted out as a software upgrade

EngineMapper @ Group B Motorsport 01 February 2012 08:43 PM


Originally Posted by snake1906 (Post 10464831)
as some of you know im not happy with my simtek and as others i have been waiting for upgrades to be honest i wish id stayed with the standard ecu

As both Steve and I posted, it is likely we can help you, so get in touch! If you're not happy with it, then it needs to be sorted.

Graham

Turbotits 01 February 2012 08:45 PM


Originally Posted by banny sti (Post 10464841)
Glad I gave up waiting for the updates and moved on to a syvecs

That may well be my next move. I could of course buy the new simtek. But see no point in being loyal to to the brand.

leecalcars 01 February 2012 08:45 PM

As mentioned previously im happy with my simtek works perfectly apart from no knock control was thinking of getting the LC added on my next map in a few months time so everything i need right now .
I know development is a big factor as with pc's and tv's also phones you just cant keep up so whats new about a cars ecu ? nothing this will always happen as we move forward ,yes second hand price now will drop but thats the same as any other aftermarket ecu just like the apexi before it etc...

53 01 February 2012 08:54 PM


1. It is a real shame that the features that were always on the horizon such as knock control and a few others will never now probably see the light of day.

2. Let's be totally honest this is going to affect the price that the units currently fitted in our cars can be sold for second hand, so as some owners do upgrade how will this affect the used resale value?

I think you're bang on, exactly the same thoughts I had when I read the announcement. I wanna know...


Seeing that this is a thread about the Simtek Range, can we have an update on what is available in terms of upgrades or some might argue patches for the old simtek.
:)

snake1906 01 February 2012 08:55 PM


Originally Posted by EngineMapper (Post 10464849)
As both Steve and I posted, it is likely we can help you, so get in touch! If you're not happy with it, then it needs to be sorted.

Graham

i didnt see steves response? the thread had gone by the time i got back on the laptop this evening

EngineMapper @ Group B Motorsport 01 February 2012 08:57 PM

He said, get your ass up to his dyno and he will try and sort whatever issues you have FOC!!

53 01 February 2012 08:57 PM

^ And if it was only moved why did all the posts disappear, they don't get deleted just for being moved ;)

yellowevo 01 February 2012 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by 53 (Post 10464885)
I think you're bang on, exactly the same thoughts I had when I read the announcement. I wanna know...



:)


x2 not impressed at all

Cannon Fodder 01 February 2012 09:01 PM


Originally Posted by 53 (Post 10464890)
^ And if it was only moved why did all the posts disappear, they don't get deleted just for being moved ;)

Personally I think it was moved into a none members section (which do exist on here) or deleted as the thread might have been classed as an advertising feature which should have been in the Trader's Marketplace.

And as the ESC know all too well, threads can just be there one minute and gone the next. ;)

ronjeramy 01 February 2012 09:02 PM

As a current Simtek owner I'm a bit disappointed as it seems that we've been dumped in favour of the new ecu with regards to any new updates. If I do change ecu in the future I dont think I'll have another Simtek. For me it smacks of got your money not bothered about you. Poor, very poor.

53 01 February 2012 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder (Post 10464903)
Personally I think it was moved into a none members section (which do exist on here) or deleted as the thread might have been classed as an advertising feature which should have been in the Trader's Marketplace.

And as the ESC know all too well, threads can just be there one minute and gone the next. ;)

G'immy an example :D ;)

Cannon Fodder 01 February 2012 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by 53 (Post 10464913)
G'immy an example :D ;)

Now now :lol1: I don't want this thread disappearing into Area 51 as well. :D

Anger 01 February 2012 09:07 PM

My Simtek went back 2 times to be fixed... Gave up and moved on to Syvecs and its been spot on

beezor 01 February 2012 09:07 PM


Originally Posted by ronjeramy (Post 10464907)
As a current Simtek owner I'm a bit disappointed as it seems that we've been dumped in favour of the new ecu with regards to any new updates. If I do change ecu in the future I dont think I'll have another Simtek. For me it smacks of got your money not bothered about you. Poor, very poor.

I think that pretty much hits the nail on the head.

53 01 February 2012 09:11 PM

^ @Anger I am thinking the same, albeit the price to cash out of simtek has now risen due to a lower return for selling my existing unit ! :(

So what is available in terms of upgrades or some might argue patches for the old simtek, that were promised for the last 2+ years ? I bought my Simtek in March 2008, initially mapped by a dickhead and subsequently remapped by a legend but still not aware of the proper updates that were promised ? :)

snake1906 01 February 2012 09:13 PM

[QUOTE=Anger;10464924]My Simtek went back 2 times to be fixed... Gave up and moved on to Syvecs and its been spot on

what was the problem with yours m8?

jayallen 01 February 2012 09:22 PM

So i guess the updates were NEVER coming? Instead focus was put on releasing a new version.

Anger 01 February 2012 09:33 PM

[quote=snake1906;10464943]

Originally Posted by Anger (Post 10464924)
My Simtek went back 2 times to be fixed... Gave up and moved on to Syvecs and its been spot on

what was the problem with yours m8?

First one wouldnt let the car start sometimes and second kept on leaving the ignition on and draining the battery


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