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Old 01 February 2012, 01:56 PM
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Having had my car (blobeye) for nearly 3 years now, which came with HIDs where do I stand. They are definately far better than any headlights I've had before but am I more likely to get pulled for using them and whats the likely concequences, points etc?
Old 01 February 2012, 02:05 PM
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Depends: are they aftermarket, or Jap proper ones?

Are they in a lens designed for a bulb, or in a projector style fitting?
Old 01 February 2012, 02:12 PM
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Havent a clue to be honest as they were in the car when I purchased it but as its a UK car I take it they are aftermarket in a standard lens headlight.
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100% Illegal, points and a fine, it will depend on the copper that pulls you how he deals with you. you might get lucky? thing is if you get pulled for it, they will know the craic, plead ignorance but you will only get away with that once if at all.
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Had mine years with no issues with plod or mot.
Old 01 February 2012, 04:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Kedlestone
Had mine years with no issues with plod or mot.
The Law has only just changed though
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I thought they were an MOT failure, i wasnt aware you could get a fine and points?

I have a set on my blob as well ( on it when i bought it )
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Thats what I was told, it would have to be a trigger happy copper by the sounds of it, as they can say the lights can cause accidents by dazzling etc.
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Technically HID's used in a headlight that is not designed for them are not road legal even though the chances are they will pass through an MOT as that only really checks for alignment.

If they're stupidly blue then undoubtedly you will draw attention to yourself and end up with a ticking off but tbh, I've yet to hear of anyone that's been fined by the police or given points just for HID's. Luck of the draw I guess.
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a quick google:

http://www.corsa-c.co.uk/forum/showt...ined-for-HID-s
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Originally Posted by Jamo
100% Illegal, points and a fine, it will depend on the copper that pulls you how he deals with you. you might get lucky? thing is if you get pulled for it, they will know the craic, plead ignorance but you will only get away with that once if at all.
The police are not qualified to determine what type of bulbs/lighting systems are fitted to your car. They are not alowed to start dismantling your car to inspect its parts. They would have to impound your vehicle for an engineers report to see if an offence was commited. Their not likely to do that unless you were involved in an incident and lighting was suspected to be the cause.
The only time non factory fitted HID's will get you into bother will be during the MOT.
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Originally Posted by chopperman
The police are not qualified to determine what type of bulbs/lighting systems are fitted to your car.
Except that anyone who knows lighting can see, at a galnce, through the clear lens of a light unit that the bulb isn't a halogen, and will have been tipped off by the blue-ish colour and when he looks, the flicker on start=up.

Originally Posted by chopperman
They are not alowed to start dismantling your car to inspect its parts.
They won't have to. Suspicion will be enough and away your car goes on a transporter

More easy money for the system....and DO be aware that if you go to court, istead of manning up and taking the £60 and three, you will likely get £100 and FOUR, plus costs against you.
Been there, done that, but not for lighting

Originally Posted by chopperman
They would have to impound your vehicle for an engineers report to see if an offence was commited. Their not likely to do that unless you were involved in an incident and lighting was suspected to be the cause.
Or they are sat, bored and wanting to up their quota?


Originally Posted by chopperman
The only time non factory fitted HID's will get you into bother will be during the MOT.
Wishful thinking.

See above
Old 01 February 2012, 07:14 PM
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Blimey the bill would have a field day round here, seems every other car has got bloody stupid blue lights fitted to them.
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Except that anyone who knows lighting can see, at a galnce, through the clear lens of a light unit that the bulb isn't a halogen, and will have been tipped off by the blue-ish colour and when he looks, the flicker on start=up.



They won't have to. Suspicion will be enough and away your car goes on a transporter

More easy money for the system....and DO be aware that if you go to court, istead of manning up and taking the £60 and three, you will likely get £100 and FOUR, plus costs against you.
Been there, done that, but not for lighting



Or they are sat, bored and wanting to up their quota?




Wishful thinking.

See above
I wouldn't get to paranoid about it mate. To start dishing out fixed penalty tickets they have to prove not just suspect. Things like number plate size and window tints are easy to prove without dismantling parts of your vehicle at the road side.
At the very most i would expect them just to give you an inspection notice to take it to an mot station within a time limit to prove its now or was legal.
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Originally Posted by Jamo
8000k
Corsa
On someone elses insurance
Probably driving like a tw@t

I've seen a few barryboys pulled around here. All of them using 8000k or above hids. Personally I think retro fit HID's into reflectors are junk. Stick to below 6000k without glare and you should be okay.

I was reading on the Civic forums where they are using a H7R hid bulb in a reflector unit with very good cut off. The bulbs are ceramic coated to eliminate glare.
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One thing for certain, I'M not going to bother: mine are legal
Old 01 February 2012, 08:10 PM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
One thing for certain, I'M not going to bother: mine are legal
Mine too, factory fitted and the best headlights ive ever had.
Old 01 February 2012, 09:08 PM
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mine passed an mot today with them.. i asked the chap and he didnt seem to think the law had come into effect yet.....well if it has, he didnt know...
Old 01 February 2012, 09:18 PM
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Originally Posted by scatty
mine passed an mot today with them.. i asked the chap and he didnt seem to think the law had come into effect yet.....well if it has, he didnt know...
It hasn`t YET.
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