Section 59!!!!! in East Sussex!!!
29 November 2011, 08:58 PM
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Section 59!!!!! in East Sussex!!!
Just moved house 1 month ago, just had new baby 1 week ago, just had a PC at my door telling me someone heard me and then saw me and said i was driving too fast and therefore I must be reported. Apparantly after 1 more complaint I will be watched more closely, doesnt help that I seem to have the only Subaru in the area and its a white wagon which is damn easy to spot, so on goes my quiet exhaust tommorrow.
Anyway here is the details of it:
SECTION 59 was brought in by the Government to target ‘vehicles used in a manner causing alarm, distress or annoyance’ although many people within the modified community believe that the Section 59 law is pretty much an anti-cruising law.
Now although this has never been the official line, it’s fair to say since its introduction it has certainly been enforced at many a cruise. Trust us we know.
The thing is most cruisers have heard of Section 59, but how many have actually read it? Not many we expect. So we thought rather than glossing over it we thought we’d put it up in full.
Yes it looks complicated, but it’s really not. So read it, take note, and why not print this out and it in your car? Remember cruisers, knowledge is power, and there’s less chance of you being treated unfairly at a meet or cruise if you know your rights.
SECTION 59
Vehicles used in a manner causing alarm, distress or annoyance:
(1) Where a constable in uniform has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle is being used on any occasion in a manner which —
(a) contravenes section 3 or 34 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52) (careless and inconsiderate driving and prohibition of off-road driving), and
(b) is causing, or is likely to cause, alarm, distress or annoyance to members of the public, he shall have the powers set out in subsection (3).
(2) A constable in uniform shall also have the powers set out in subsection (3) where he has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle has been used on any occasion in a manner falling within subsection (1).
(3) Those powers are —
(a) power, if the motor vehicle is moving, to order the person driving it to stop the vehicle;
(b) power to seize and remove the motor vehicle;
(c) power, for the purposes of exercising a power falling within paragraph (a) or (b), to enter any
premises on which he has reasonable grounds for believing the motor vehicle to be;
(d) power to use reasonable force, if necessary, in the exercise of any power
conferred by any of paragraphs to (a) to (c).
(4) A constable shall not seize a motor vehicle in the exercise of the powers
conferred on him by this section unless —
(a) he has warned the person appearing to him to be the person whose use falls within subsection (1) that he will seize it, if that use continues or is repeated; and
(b) it appears to him that the use has continued or been repeated after the warning.
(5) Subsection (4) does not require a warning to be given by a constable on any occasion on which he would otherwise have the power to seize a motor vehicle under this section if—
(a) the circumstances make it impracticable for him to give the warning;
(b) the constable has already on that occasion given a warning under that subsection in respect of any use of that motor vehicle or of another motor vehicle by that person or any other person;
(c) the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that such a warning has been given on that occasion otherwise than by him; or
(d) the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that the person whose use of that motor vehicle on that occasion would justify the seizure is a person to whom a warning under that subsection has been given (whether or not by that constable or in respect the same vehicle or the same or a similar use) on a previous occasion in the previous twelve months.
(6) A person who fails to comply with an order under subsection (3)(a) is guilty of an offence and shall be liable, on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.
(7) Subsection (3)(c) does not authorise entry into a private dwelling house.
(8) The powers conferred on a constable by this section shall be exercisable only at a time when regulations under section 60 are in force.
(9) In this section —
• “driving” has the same meaning as in the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52);
• “motor vehicle” means any mechanically propelled vehicle, whether or not it is intended or adapted for use on roads; and
• “private dwelling house” does not include any garage or other structure occupied with the dwelling house, or any land appurtenant to the dwelling house.
Anyway here is the details of it:
SECTION 59 was brought in by the Government to target ‘vehicles used in a manner causing alarm, distress or annoyance’ although many people within the modified community believe that the Section 59 law is pretty much an anti-cruising law.
Now although this has never been the official line, it’s fair to say since its introduction it has certainly been enforced at many a cruise. Trust us we know.
The thing is most cruisers have heard of Section 59, but how many have actually read it? Not many we expect. So we thought rather than glossing over it we thought we’d put it up in full.
Yes it looks complicated, but it’s really not. So read it, take note, and why not print this out and it in your car? Remember cruisers, knowledge is power, and there’s less chance of you being treated unfairly at a meet or cruise if you know your rights.
SECTION 59
Vehicles used in a manner causing alarm, distress or annoyance:
(1) Where a constable in uniform has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle is being used on any occasion in a manner which —
(a) contravenes section 3 or 34 of the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52) (careless and inconsiderate driving and prohibition of off-road driving), and
(b) is causing, or is likely to cause, alarm, distress or annoyance to members of the public, he shall have the powers set out in subsection (3).
(2) A constable in uniform shall also have the powers set out in subsection (3) where he has reasonable grounds for believing that a motor vehicle has been used on any occasion in a manner falling within subsection (1).
(3) Those powers are —
(a) power, if the motor vehicle is moving, to order the person driving it to stop the vehicle;
(b) power to seize and remove the motor vehicle;
(c) power, for the purposes of exercising a power falling within paragraph (a) or (b), to enter any
premises on which he has reasonable grounds for believing the motor vehicle to be;
(d) power to use reasonable force, if necessary, in the exercise of any power
conferred by any of paragraphs to (a) to (c).
(4) A constable shall not seize a motor vehicle in the exercise of the powers
conferred on him by this section unless —
(a) he has warned the person appearing to him to be the person whose use falls within subsection (1) that he will seize it, if that use continues or is repeated; and
(b) it appears to him that the use has continued or been repeated after the warning.
(5) Subsection (4) does not require a warning to be given by a constable on any occasion on which he would otherwise have the power to seize a motor vehicle under this section if—
(a) the circumstances make it impracticable for him to give the warning;
(b) the constable has already on that occasion given a warning under that subsection in respect of any use of that motor vehicle or of another motor vehicle by that person or any other person;
(c) the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that such a warning has been given on that occasion otherwise than by him; or
(d) the constable has reasonable grounds for believing that the person whose use of that motor vehicle on that occasion would justify the seizure is a person to whom a warning under that subsection has been given (whether or not by that constable or in respect the same vehicle or the same or a similar use) on a previous occasion in the previous twelve months.
(6) A person who fails to comply with an order under subsection (3)(a) is guilty of an offence and shall be liable, on summary conviction, to a fine not exceeding level 3 on the standard scale.
(7) Subsection (3)(c) does not authorise entry into a private dwelling house.
(8) The powers conferred on a constable by this section shall be exercisable only at a time when regulations under section 60 are in force.
(9) In this section —
• “driving” has the same meaning as in the Road Traffic Act 1988 (c. 52);
• “motor vehicle” means any mechanically propelled vehicle, whether or not it is intended or adapted for use on roads; and
• “private dwelling house” does not include any garage or other structure occupied with the dwelling house, or any land appurtenant to the dwelling house.
29 November 2011, 09:02 PM
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Unfortunatley any numpty can report you,and plod take it as gospel,its basicaly an ASBO for your car
It affects the car and is not dependant on owner or driver,but the law does not state you have to tell any new owners that your car has had a section 59 on it,a potential nightmare!
It affects the car and is not dependant on owner or driver,but the law does not state you have to tell any new owners that your car has had a section 59 on it,a potential nightmare!
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29 November 2011, 09:08 PM
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iv had a few of these when i was younger for noise and driving to fast supposably its mainly old biddys that report you as they think because they can hear your exhaust you must be goin 100mph
29 November 2011, 09:19 PM
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The old bill failed to catch the scrots that burgled me,even though they drove straight past the accident that half of thames valley police were attending just 200 yards from my house,...i can feel a bout of tourettes coming on....w anchors!!!!!!!
29 November 2011, 09:39 PM
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Its on the car AND the owner. And yes, you can get them on 'heresay' from joe public.
Strangely enough a friend got one a couple of weeks ago - he'd just bought a smoker E30 BMW and had a quick doughnut style blat in a massive industrial estate car park for a laugh - not knowing an off duty officer was watching. 10 mins later a dog unit turned up and gave him a section 59. He tried to give me one too but I basically politely refused to accept it, wasn't alot he could do, beside, I hadn't actually done anything.
Strangely enough a friend got one a couple of weeks ago - he'd just bought a smoker E30 BMW and had a quick doughnut style blat in a massive industrial estate car park for a laugh - not knowing an off duty officer was watching. 10 mins later a dog unit turned up and gave him a section 59. He tried to give me one too but I basically politely refused to accept it, wasn't alot he could do, beside, I hadn't actually done anything.
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30 November 2011, 07:25 PM
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Guys this legislation goes back to 2002, why the sudden interest, lots of !!!!!! and cut and pasting, 9 years later?
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I'm sure most of the knuckle dragging "kruse" community would need a responsible adult to read Section 59 to them.
Basically, don't drive like a tw@t = no section 59
Basically, don't drive like a tw@t = no section 59
01 December 2011, 09:15 AM
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Are you suspiciuos that it was a local who reported you? If so, it comes as a reminder to us never to drive quickly in your own road or those close by. Part of the duty associated with owning such a car is to respect your neighbours. Not everyone likes noisy, flamboyant cars, and why should they!
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