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Old 29 July 2011, 03:04 PM
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Default Falken FK452s.. Not impressed!

After taking a bit of advice from a few members in here on new tyres and doing my own research I pitched for Falken FK452s.. Seemed a real bargain and recieved good reviews for being a good blend of sticky and long wearing.. well, what a fooking mistake that was!! Replaced the worn rears on my wagon last week with two new 452s so now running those on rear on conti contact 2s on front.. decided to press on a bit on a run out today and the sodding thing is over steering everywhere! Stopped and checked pressures straight away, all the same.. totally gutted as before i could throw it into most corners with confidence but now it feels like a rear wheel drive.. replacing the front two with the same Falkens next month and an attempt to get the handling back with matching tyres.. Anyone else found any issues with these tyres?
Old 29 July 2011, 03:07 PM
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i have them on the front & not had any issues but i do not push it as i do not trust the blinkin marangonis that are on the rear that i'm waiting to wear out!
but the falkens have been on many other cars & i have always found them to be good especially for the money..... but they do wear fast as they are (i think) more of a fast dry road tyre than an all weather & long lasting.
looking at uniroyal rainsports 2 next though, heard good reports on them.

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Old 29 July 2011, 03:08 PM
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I find them to be really good in the bend tbh mate and i cant seem to make them break traction....
Old 29 July 2011, 03:14 PM
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Oh that's interesting as I was just going to be replacing my 2 fronts for Falkens. Currently running Eagle F1s (v pattern) all round.

Any comparisons on the Falkens and Vredestein Sessantas?
Old 29 July 2011, 03:15 PM
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So swap them F to R and report back...

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P.S. Have you done enough miles to scrub the release agent off them ?

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I've got them all round on my M3 and I've found them to wear quickly on the rears (a set in 6k miles!) and when accelerating the DSC is constantly kicking in where it's fighting for traction. They are cheap though so you get what you pay for. I had them on my old Focus ST225 and the worn out Fulda's I removed had more grip than a lightly worn set of 452's
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i have falkens all round and they are an awesome tyre for the money.
Old 29 July 2011, 03:18 PM
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i had them on s3 great tyre.

rainsports 2 i had on a lupo sport and they were amazing even when had lik 1.2 mm of tread lol still better than the toyos i stuck on. I had toyo t1r s on a scoob and they were really good
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I think I might swap fronts with rears this weekend and see if it understeers.. Was going to give the wheels and calipers a good clean so may as well swap over at same time.. I don't know if the front Conti's are just gripping better than the Falkens which are letting go ealier.. I'm not talking about 4wd drifting here and full opposite lock, just to be clear.. But the thing is out of line now and absolutely wasn't before... What pressures are you guys running out of interest?
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Originally Posted by dunx
So swap them F to R and report back...

dunx

P.S. Have you done enough miles to scrub the release agent off them ?

You beat me to it I've covered around 200-250 miles but today was probably the second spirited drive that would have rolled the tyres? Do you think that may be the issue? Still agent on the tyres?
Old 29 July 2011, 03:21 PM
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i got eagle f1 s on front they are crap less subaru type r s understeer really bad
Old 29 July 2011, 03:28 PM
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i sell loads and have nothing but good feedback from customers who have bought them tbh
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I would expect that to be plenty of miles, BUT it has been wet and that always makes things greasy after a dry spell.

Contis are also a quality brand tyre, I expect they were very expensive new, compared to the Falkens ?

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Old 29 July 2011, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by M444GY
i sell loads and have nothing but good feedback from customers who have bought them tbh
Are they still back order? I'm still after another set for the rear of the M3.
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I'll scrub them in for you
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33 at the frt 31 at the rears on pressures.
Old 29 July 2011, 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Rez
I've covered around 200-250 miles but today was probably the second spirited drive that would have rolled the tyres? Do you think that may be the issue? Still agent on the tyres?
My current set of Goodyear GSD3s took approx 350 miles before I felt they'd settled. Remember they need to wear off the mould release, but also need to wear to accomodate the camber setting before they'll respond properly.

Different tyre brands are always going to behave differently - great argument for changing all 4 at once, but that probably doesn't help you at the moment You can probably dial some of this out by fiddling with tyre pressures.
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Has anyone gone straight from eagle F1s (v tread pattern) to the 452s?

How did they compare?

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Old 29 July 2011, 04:26 PM
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i like the falkenns not bad tyre
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Originally Posted by Rez
I think I might swap fronts with rears this weekend and see if it understeers.. Was going to give the wheels and calipers a good clean so may as well swap over at same time.. I don't know if the front Conti's are just gripping better than the Falkens which are letting go ealier.. I'm not talking about 4wd drifting here and full opposite lock, just to be clear.. But the thing is out of line now and absolutely wasn't before... What pressures are you guys running out of interest?
Cant believe how well my FK452 handle on front with old avons on back no understeer grip forever.

You swapped them yet?
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Originally Posted by Berks-Jack
Has anyone gone straight from eagle F1s (v tread pattern) to the 452s?

How did they compare?
Yes i went from 16" GSD3s (93wrx with fecking hard Jap coilovers) to 17" FK452s (98 Type R standard suspension) then went down to 16" and the F1s are better imo BUT for the prices you can get the 452s I still think they are a great tyre.

Sonic93 do you ever use the DCCD?
I've found when pushing up the dial the understeer does seem to be lessened
Old 29 July 2011, 04:39 PM
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no never touch it mate only had it 3 weeks dont no the rules about using it matelol?
Old 29 July 2011, 04:50 PM
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Think I will continue with re070 on mine as these are not that expensive and they are superb in all but damp roads but then there is usually a lot if grease about then so no tyre would be significantly better
Old 29 July 2011, 05:15 PM
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Right, I'm running 39 front and rear so I'm going to drop those to circa 31 then get back out there.. then I'm swapping them over over the next few days.. I'll not write them off just yet as the majority of you like them.. I'll report back lol
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i've only ever run falken fk452s on my subaru find them ex in the dry and wet but i do always replace all 4 at once don't know if this makes any difference
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39psi front & rear!? once they've warmed up, that'll be well into the 40s.....

drop the pressures a bit, my falkens have been fantastic for the money, on both road and track!
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Originally Posted by Rez
Right, I'm running 39 front and rear so I'm going to drop those to circa 31 then get back out there.. then I'm swapping them over over the next few days.. I'll not write them off just yet as the majority of you like them.. I'll report back lol
pressures sound too high and i have found the impreza much less stable than any other car on mismatched tyres
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Originally Posted by Berks-Jack
Has anyone gone straight from eagle F1s (v tread pattern) to the 452s?

How did they compare?
i just went from the F1 Assymetrics to 452's... seem pretty good to me
Old 29 July 2011, 05:53 PM
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452 all round on mine 225/40/18. 03 STI can't complain for the price good wet and dry find them much more predictable on the limit than toyo t1r 31psi front 32 rear.
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run them in a bit

mine were shocking at first

couldnt corner at any speed

but have just gradually got better - and great performer now


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