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Old 27 July 2011, 09:41 PM
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Default £500-£600 turbo, what can I get???

As above people just wondering what's out there second hand for this price range for 05 sti wanting around 400 mark
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Old 27 July 2011, 09:57 PM
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Lots of white smoke and a blown engine.

Wait a while longer save some more money and buy an sc turbo at scooby clinic or andy forest or one off harvey..
Old 27 July 2011, 10:00 PM
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A decent 20G, might struggle to hit the 400bhp though
Old 27 July 2011, 10:03 PM
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Why chase figures? run a smaller turbo for better spool with a meth mix the Td05 20G is laggy on the 2.0 and only worth taking that route if going on track.
Old 27 July 2011, 10:07 PM
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Not wanting track and I suppose not really chasing figures!! Just want a good solid fast road car!!! And like said above with good spool
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20G is not laggy on 2.0L,depends if its AVCS or non AVCS etc..

If you are not chasing BHP and you are looking for spool i would suggest VF34 or 18G,these two turbos have similar spool characteristic.

And for these money you can should find one.


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Old 27 July 2011, 10:44 PM
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The 05 STI's have good heads, so lag should be minimal.
Old 27 July 2011, 10:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Moley_WRX
The 05 STI's have good heads, so lag should be minimal.
Yes on 05 STi should be nice and spooly 20G(400bhp is possible with methanol,without the methanol is possible too)

I was misread the first one post and i just have look at craigyp avatar,where is is WRX,sorry there


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Old 27 July 2011, 10:51 PM
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What mods have you had done already?
Old 27 July 2011, 10:54 PM
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Fast road car........TD05 18G, VF 48 or an MD 123 series Assuming it's not a Jap car ..

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Old 27 July 2011, 11:08 PM
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I've got a garrett gt2860rs comes as a kit with hks headers and custom up pipe and a custom de-cat down pipe. was looking for £650 but will take £600
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Originally Posted by d13ano
I've got a garrett gt2860rs comes as a kit with hks headers and custom up pipe and a custom de-cat down pipe. was looking for £650 but will take £600
Is this a direct bolt on?? And will it suit my car?? Also are headers ok for mine?
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That turbo will send a standard engine straight to the A.P.I work bench...
Old 28 July 2011, 03:16 PM
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What sort of power does the gt2860rs normally make?
Cant find anything on these... Is anyone running one on there scooby?
Old 28 July 2011, 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by Gaz7612
What sort of power does the gt2860rs normally make?
Cant find anything on these... Is anyone running one on there scooby?
Mostly all Garrett core used on Subaru are GT30(3071 or 3076) and they're capable from 400bhp+

Similar GT2860RS selling Owen Developments and he rate this turbo for 350bhp..


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I've apparently got a 18g on it but it's laggy as ****!!!! It's also got full decat 3" system 3port green panel filter and a remap
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Originally Posted by craigyp
I've apparently got a 18g on it but it's laggy as ****!!!! It's also got full decat 3" system 3port green panel filter and a remap
VF34 is nice and spooly turbo,but from reports 18G is really spooly turbo,you are sure you have 18G?

MD321H is nice and spooly turbo which can be sourced for £600 and its really nice like on STi or WRX.


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Old 28 July 2011, 08:03 PM
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All single scroll turbo's are going to feel laggy, the bigger you go the laggier they will feel, avcs can only do so much on a 2ltr engine, its not a miracle worker you have to look towards turbo technology, low friction roller bearing billet (sp) turbo's but those will cost you more that 600 quid.

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vf or the td series will give you the good old kick the back which cant be beat imo
Old 29 July 2011, 08:19 AM
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Originally Posted by Pramas
vf or the td series will give you the good old kick the back which cant be beat imo

unless you go down the sc billet route,,,, lol
Old 29 July 2011, 09:09 AM
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Well that's shat I'm after then a md321 series
Keep me posted guys if any look finding one
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Maybe you should chat with a mapper before you take the plunge and buy a md series turbo as i do believe they would push the wrx engine to its limit when setup to their full potential. You need to decide what you want to gain performance wise and how much you are willing to spend. I started off wanting a 20G, tubular headers and almost 400hp. Now i am going for a brand new vf48, ported headers and matched uppipe, also going for a methanol mix which should hopefully see 370-380hp. I want to have a decent fast road setup with good early spool and not have to wait til 4k plus for full boost with a bigger turbo.

£500 for a brand new vf48 off a member on this site
Old 29 July 2011, 10:21 PM
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i doubt very much you will see a md series turbo for sale in this bracket range £500-£600, think the last 321h to become avavilable sold for around £900. VF or TD series prob best bet around this price
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Originally Posted by L.J.F
Why chase figures? run a smaller turbo for better spool with a meth mix the Td05 20G is laggy on the 2.0 and only worth taking that route if going on track.
Would you call 1 bar in 4th gear on a level road and the average of several runs at 3160 rpm as laggy? I certainly wouldn't and that is what I was doing with the 20G on my own car running V-Power and under 2mls per litre NF, mapped by Bob Rawle.
Regularly the turbo is blamed for lag. Sometimes it is the turbo but more often than not it is an incorrect or conflicting spec or poor mapping.
20G new, 12 month warranty £850. Typically a 380 bhp turbo on petrol but I suppose it depends on what rolling road and fuel you are using. Many people claim my 20G exceeds 400 bhp easily.
18G, new. 12 months warranty £725. Genuine 360 plus bhp turbo and if you have lag with one of my 18Gs start looking for problem areas other than the turbo.
The 18G and 20G have ported exhaust inlets and uprated actuators.
I also have a new AFP 18G here that can go for £650. This was taken PX against a new 20G.
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Originally Posted by craigyp
I've apparently got a 18g on it but it's laggy as ****!!!! It's also got full decat 3" system 3port green panel filter and a remap
Like I said above, if you have an 18G and it is laggy, providing it is a properly made turbo you might be better off investigating other causes of lag before you decide to invest in a new or second replacement turbo. The logic of this is quite straight forward in that you will still have the same lag issues after fitting an alternative turbo if the problem is not the turbo in the first place and again I have to say the number of people who blame the turbo when it is something else is quite considerable.
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