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Old 03 June 2011, 08:22 PM
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Default Shifting at high RPM

Any one be aple to help with my hawk WRX. Its nice and normal through the gear at low revs but i just did a heavy launch 1-2 fine approx 5,000rpm it would not shift in 3 for love nor money and this is not the first time. If you let the revs drop it will go in but is this a fixable problem or time for new gear box

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Old 03 June 2011, 08:33 PM
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Maybe best not to launch it. Pretty tough on the box. I've had to replace one before.

Are you trying to get it into gear at 5k revs?
Old 03 June 2011, 08:35 PM
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Mine never goes into 3rd gear at high revs, I have to see off STIs early.
Old 03 June 2011, 08:52 PM
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
Maybe best not to launch it. Pretty tough on the box. I've had to replace one before.

Are you trying to get it into gear at 5k revs?

Sorry prob didt explain well, yes trying the change gear at 5k like you would doing a 1/4 mile. TBH i didt buy the car to drive like mrs daisy(safety & weather permiting) Starting to get the feeling i made big mistake going for a subaru froma R33 if the car cant even do a fast(ish) gear change from a standing start
Old 03 June 2011, 09:04 PM
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My mates classic WRX had a dodgy high revs 3rd change too and he blew the engine fluffing a change up to 3rd.
Old 03 June 2011, 09:06 PM
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Wouldn't have this problem if you bought a proper Impreza. And by that I mean an STI.

Launching a WRX, lol. Book yourself in for a box mate with driving like that.
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Wouldn't have this problem if you bought a proper Impreza. And by that I mean an STI.

Launching a WRX, lol. Book yourself in for a box mate with driving like that.
Ah i see, well maybe to time to get another skyline then R34 may be on the cards i feel

On Another note does anyone know what the problem is ?

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Old 03 June 2011, 09:12 PM
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You're only doing 20mph when you have to shift up to 4th in an STI, so no thanks!
Old 03 June 2011, 09:19 PM
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Bloody hell why do people insist on the WRX , STI thing really some us dont care. I am really starting to see why people think ALL subaru drivers are ***** shame as i meet a few people on here for a cupa and they were nice shame about the rest
Old 03 June 2011, 09:23 PM
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Originally Posted by bigbruiseral
Bloody hell why do people insist on the WRX , STI thing really some us dont care. I am really starting to see why people think ALL subaru drivers are ***** shame as i meet a few people on here for a cupa and they were nice shame about the rest
Really hope that wasn't aimed at me chap. All I was doing was pointing out the facts. Later STI's came with the fantastic and super strong 6 speed box. The WRX is an inferior car to the STI, and that is also fact. Yes the WRX suits some people just fine and I'm sure it would make a fantastic everyday car, but that doesn't change the fact that the STI is a better car.
People who say different just can't afford an STI.
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Originally Posted by MattyB1983
Really hope that wasn't aimed at me chap. All I was doing was pointing out the facts. Later STI's came with the fantastic and super strong 6 speed box. The WRX is an inferior car to the STI, and that is also fact. Yes the WRX suits some people just fine and I'm sure it would make a fantastic everyday car, but that doesn't change the fact that the STI is a better car.
People who say different just can't afford an STI.
Not aimed directly at you mate but i could see where thread was going. I asked for some help/ideas and not 1 person has really offered any great advise on what it could be. Been a member of alot car clubs was hoping to get right in to the subaru seen but people seem the least helpfull/friendly (not a pop at any one just my view so far)
The STI is 100% a better car then a WRX agree 100%. STI owners thinking WRX owners got it becuse they coudlt afford it it utter rubbish and very foolish, any way never mind guess ill take it somwhere that can help local
Old 03 June 2011, 09:41 PM
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does this problem only happen under hard accleration or is it here all the time? does old fashioned double declutching help? My STi sometimes has an issue when box is cold and all ive manged to figure out is it is probally a syncho issue, could be something similar for you
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Check fluid is clean and topped up.
A good old gearbox service can sort/ease problems.
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Originally Posted by Pramas
does this problem only happen under hard accleration or is it here all the time? does old fashioned double declutching help? My STi sometimes has an issue when box is cold and all ive manged to figure out is it is probally a syncho issue, could be something similar for you

Spot on mate only happens under hard accleration only. High speed normal change are fine. Thanks for trying to help
Old 03 June 2011, 09:55 PM
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my sti doesnt like gear changes when cold either i just get fed up and ram the f11cker in
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but saying that my old wrx drove like a dream should of kept it i think
Old 03 June 2011, 11:29 PM
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Originally Posted by snake1906
but saying that my old wrx drove like a dream should of kept it i think
lol thats weird cos my wrx never had the issues with the gearbox either, mind id doubt it would cope well with the 360 ponies i have now, but once warm box seems ok.
To the OP when was the last gearbox oil changed and though it may sound silly, i found if i put just a little more oil in it after garage had, it did ease the issue somewhat.
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Syncros
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Originally Posted by Shaun
Syncros
Cost?
Old 03 June 2011, 11:36 PM
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if its fine when double declutch and match revs ( althought may be a bit awkward to replicate if driving hard ) then yes it does point to the synchro
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Originally Posted by Pramas
lol thats weird cos my wrx never had the issues with the gearbox either, mind id doubt it would cope well with the 360 ponies i have now, but once warm box seems ok.
To the OP when was the last gearbox oil changed and though it may sound silly, i found if i put just a little more oil in it after garage had, it did ease the issue somewhat.

I tend to warm the car up and had done about 10 miles steady away before my moment of madness, i dont normaly abuse the poor thing but with sun out and all thought i would stretch her legs. only had it 3 months it was supposed to have had a service when sold but you know what dealers are like got 27k on the clock with FSH. Maybe time for a oil change and a looky around by my local scooby mech

Syncros that sounds expensive lol
Old 03 June 2011, 11:42 PM
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synchros can be costly, cant remeber the excact figure but iam sure david from api could advise.
For sure try the gearbox oil change 1st, if no joy then maybe you need it dropped out and rebuild looked at
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Do a oil change to a good spec oil, I use millers gear oil. Will look tomorrow and let you know which one. Yes mine is a STi with 6 speed but having done 103k miles, currently pushing 440bhp with no engine or gearbox rebuild done yet. I do drive steady but also give it hammer.
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Originally Posted by 360ste
Do a oil change to a good spec oil, I use millers gear oil. Will look tomorrow and let you know which one. Yes mine is a STi with 6 speed but having done 103k miles, currently pushing 440bhp with no engine or gearbox rebuild done yet. I do drive steady but also give it hammer.
thank you very much, little disheartened with the car now knowing the car cant do it even though ill prob do 1 a month if that

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Baulk rings i.e syncro is cream crackered!
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Try changing the oil to Castrol Syntrax. Magic stuff for the Impreza 5 Speed box.

And as for the comments from Matty, he obviously has an inferiority complex and feels the need to tell people how big his ***** is because he has an STI!
I have had both and to honest, they both have their good points. As a point to point car, the UK Turbo that I had (tuned to 280bhp on standard TD04 turbo) was just as good as the STI 4 that I had. Yes, the STI may have had a 10mph higher top speed and might well have been able to get to 60mph in 0.5 seconds quicker if you caned the living daylights out of it off the line, but come on, who is going to notice that on the UK roads? In fact, because the TD04 was better and spooling up, in some ways, it felt more alive than the STI 4 with the VF24. The handling was a bit more pointy in the STI but I found you couldn't throw it into the corners as quick as it would just understeer, even after having the geometry setup.

Coming out with the comment that those who say they prefer a WRX just can't afford an STI, is the biggest load of bollocks I have ever heard.

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Originally Posted by RS_Matt
Mine never goes into 3rd gear at high revs, I have to see off STIs early.
Originally Posted by RS_Matt
You're only doing 20mph when you have to shift up to 4th in an STI, so no thanks!
No-one biting today mate ?

Originally Posted by Gear Head
Coming out with the comment that those who say they prefer a WRX just can't afford an STI, is the biggest load of bollocks I have ever heard.
Its true sometimes though, I was going to get a WRX before I realised I could afford an STI
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Is it re-mapped ? No point in revving a std. one anyway, even the STI is mapped to make the last 1000 rpm useless...

dunx

P.S. Start looking for some different oil and/or a new gearbox...
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Blob STI 5.2
Blob WRX 5.7

Makes you wonder the 0-60 of the much lighter WRX if it had 2 cats like an STI, not 3 and a slightly less emissions friendly OE map. TDO4 kicking in 500rpm earlier.

Bye bye STI.
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Originally Posted by stef_2010
No-one biting today mate ?



Its true sometimes though, I was going to get a WRX before I realised I could afford an STI
Saying my WRX doesn't go into 3rd gear isn't really a dig at STI owners!


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