bugeye power question
24 April 2011, 05:45 PM
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bugeye power question
car is about ready for a mapping session
its a my02 uk sti
mods
simtec
td05 20g
adj fpr
rcm headers and up-pipe
standard sti top mount
standard pink injectors
3" full decat
20% methanol mix
walbor pump
just debating if its worth adding a front mount and having the injectors flowed ??
what power do you think i will see without doing the fmic and injectors and what would i gain if i did ???
yes i know my clutch will be close to max , and for the keyboard warriors brakes and suspension have already been upgraded
cheers phil
its a my02 uk sti
mods
simtec
td05 20g
adj fpr
rcm headers and up-pipe
standard sti top mount
standard pink injectors
3" full decat
20% methanol mix
walbor pump
just debating if its worth adding a front mount and having the injectors flowed ??
what power do you think i will see without doing the fmic and injectors and what would i gain if i did ???
yes i know my clutch will be close to max , and for the keyboard warriors brakes and suspension have already been upgraded
cheers phil
Last edited by phil739; 24 April 2011 at 05:58 PM.
24 April 2011, 06:36 PM
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You can recoup quite a bit of the cost of a more efficient FMIC by selling on your STi TMIC 
In respect of injectors, I think the pinks should cope as remember you are throwing in 1/5th Methanol which should require less volome of actual fuel. (I think that's right) LOL
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In respect of injectors, I think the pinks should cope as remember you are throwing in 1/5th Methanol which should require less volome of actual fuel. (I think that's right) LOLShaun
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24 April 2011, 06:39 PM
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its not been mapped yet on the above
only on the orginal ecu and vf35
the mods above are what i have collected and fitted in the last month or so
are the figures your quoting with or without fmic?
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24 April 2011, 06:47 PM
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You can recoup quite a bit of the cost of a more efficient FMIC by selling on your STi TMIC In respect of injectors, I think the pinks should cope as remember you are throwing in 1/5th Methanol which should require less volome of actual fuel. (I think that's right) LOL
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In respect of injectors, I think the pinks should cope as remember you are throwing in 1/5th Methanol which should require less volome of actual fuel. (I think that's right) LOLShaun
yeah i know mate, but if adding a fmic is only going to add say 10bhp more over a top mount i have to weigh up if its worth it or not
hence my post
24 April 2011, 06:49 PM
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The FMIC is better at keeping charge temps down.......have a search on here about Harvey's work on FMIC / TMIC using real measurements and not guesswork.
And then you will go and buy one.
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PS what's on the induction side of things ??
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Mine..
And then you will go and buy one.
Shaun
PS what's on the induction side of things ??
Shaun
Mine..
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yeah that could be another issue
i have a inner wing aps
nice looking motor
what front mount / pipework do you have
anymore pics of the pipework
when can you fit mine ...lol
i have a inner wing aps
nice looking motor
what front mount / pipework do you have
anymore pics of the pipework
when can you fit mine ...lol
24 April 2011, 07:02 PM
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FMIC is actually an APS DR 500 jobby, It's quite old and I think it cost me about £1.2k eeek !! but was best at the time, Nowadays still probably not as good as a Hybrid GT2 
It was actually fitted not a million miles away from you at Roger Clark........another exercise in wallet removal LOL
Harvey should be able to advise on wing mounted CAC as he has worked with them
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It was actually fitted not a million miles away from you at Roger Clark........another exercise in wallet removal LOL
Harvey should be able to advise on wing mounted CAC as he has worked with them
Shaun
25 April 2011, 10:50 AM
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I made 382 without meth. My RCM 550's were pretty close to their limit to be honest though.
I'm now going with bigger injectors and a 10% meth mix. I'm hoping for circa 410.
You might be ok with a FPR but would deffo go front mount. Harvey does them for about £350 I think, not only keep temps down but look the dogs rude bits too.
I'm now going with bigger injectors and a 10% meth mix. I'm hoping for circa 410.
You might be ok with a FPR but would deffo go front mount. Harvey does them for about £350 I think, not only keep temps down but look the dogs rude bits too.
28 April 2011, 08:01 PM
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my 2002 prodrive sti bug is running about 370 on:
AF TD05 20g - 1.5bar boost
850cc injectors
walbro fuel pump
single decat
panel filter
In the next few months, I am adding:
Hybrid FMIC & CAK
GT headers
Uppipe
Hoping for around the 400 mark... but thats on v-power, no meth.
AF TD05 20g - 1.5bar boost
850cc injectors
walbro fuel pump
single decat
panel filter
In the next few months, I am adding:
Hybrid FMIC & CAK
GT headers
Uppipe
Hoping for around the 400 mark... but thats on v-power, no meth.
28 May 2011, 12:48 PM
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yeah
injectors where maxed even with a adj fpr. maybe the meths
might be time for bigger injectors
anyone know if its better to get my 550 flowed to say 800 or just buy 800's ?
injectors where maxed even with a adj fpr. maybe the meths
might be time for bigger injectors
anyone know if its better to get my 550 flowed to say 800 or just buy 800's ?
28 May 2011, 12:54 PM
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Blue injectors from the hatch come up on here from time to time as do modded blue injectors from the bug wrx (Milleniumracer did quite a few). Might save a few pennies over buying new.
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28 May 2011, 02:27 PM
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Yea 375 isn't great power considering your using 20% meth.
Get some bigger injectors like 650's and you'll see far better results. I'm in a similar position to you fella, just waiting to fit new box and injectors then going for a 10% meth mix. We think I'll see 400+ which I'll be very happy with.
Get some bigger injectors like 650's and you'll see far better results. I'm in a similar position to you fella, just waiting to fit new box and injectors then going for a 10% meth mix. We think I'll see 400+ which I'll be very happy with.
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