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phil739 24 April 2011 05:45 PM

bugeye power question
 
car is about ready for a mapping session
its a my02 uk sti

mods
simtec
td05 20g
adj fpr
rcm headers and up-pipe
standard sti top mount
standard pink injectors
3" full decat
20% methanol mix
walbor pump

just debating if its worth adding a front mount and having the injectors flowed ??

what power do you think i will see without doing the fmic and injectors and what would i gain if i did ???


yes i know my clutch will be close to max , and for the keyboard warriors brakes and suspension have already been upgraded

cheers phil

Midlife...... 24 April 2011 05:48 PM

Front mount would be nice...........Harvey can supply :) Are you still using your 8 year olf fuel pump ??

Shaun

phil739 24 April 2011 05:58 PM

edit post forgot about that
thanks

i know it would be nice but what difference would i see??

cheers phil

jura11 24 April 2011 06:04 PM

Hi Phill
FMIC will be addition,you will probably see lower temps and more BHP.
And probably your Injectors are probably maxed,i would recommend fit at least FPR or get your injectors flowed to 650cc


Jura

phil739 24 April 2011 06:15 PM

all have a adjustable fpr on list mate

just trying to find out how much bhp extra i would likely see and if its worth the extra cash

jura11 24 April 2011 06:20 PM


Originally Posted by phil739 (Post 10004129)
all have a adjustable fpr on list mate

just trying to find out how much bhp extra i would likely see and if its worth the extra cash


How much BHP you are now running?

With TD05-20G you can push up to 420bhp with meth,some without will make around 380-400bhp


Jura

Midlife...... 24 April 2011 06:36 PM

You can recoup quite a bit of the cost of a more efficient FMIC by selling on your STi TMIC :D In respect of injectors, I think the pinks should cope as remember you are throwing in 1/5th Methanol which should require less volome of actual fuel. (I think that's right) LOL

Shaun

phil739 24 April 2011 06:39 PM


Originally Posted by jura11 (Post 10004141)
How much BHP you are now running?

With TD05-20G you can push up to 420bhp with meth,some without will make around 380-400bhp


Jura


its not been mapped yet on the above
only on the orginal ecu and vf35
the mods above are what i have collected and fitted in the last month or so

are the figures your quoting with or without fmic?

phil739 24 April 2011 06:47 PM


Originally Posted by Midlife...... (Post 10004173)
You can recoup quite a bit of the cost of a more efficient FMIC by selling on your STi TMIC :D In respect of injectors, I think the pinks should cope as remember you are throwing in 1/5th Methanol which should require less volome of actual fuel. (I think that's right) LOL

Shaun


yeah i know mate, but if adding a fmic is only going to add say 10bhp more over a top mount i have to weigh up if its worth it or not

hence my post

Midlife...... 24 April 2011 06:49 PM

The FMIC is better at keeping charge temps down.......have a search on here about Harvey's work on FMIC / TMIC using real measurements and not guesswork.

And then you will go and buy one.

Shaun

PS what's on the induction side of things ??

Shaun

Mine..

http://i51.tinypic.com/2v2zfih.jpg

phil739 24 April 2011 06:58 PM

yeah that could be another issue
i have a inner wing aps

nice looking motor
what front mount / pipework do you have
anymore pics of the pipework
when can you fit mine ...lol

Midlife...... 24 April 2011 07:02 PM

FMIC is actually an APS DR 500 jobby, It's quite old and I think it cost me about £1.2k eeek !! but was best at the time, Nowadays still probably not as good as a Hybrid GT2 :(

It was actually fitted not a million miles away from you at Roger Clark........another exercise in wallet removal LOL

Harvey should be able to advise on wing mounted CAC as he has worked with them :)

Shaun

EH52WRX 24 April 2011 07:47 PM

I made 360/400 on a 2.5 without Meths and headers. You should make over 400bhp

phil739 25 April 2011 10:14 AM

any more input

MattyB1983 25 April 2011 10:50 AM

I made 382 without meth. My RCM 550's were pretty close to their limit to be honest though.
I'm now going with bigger injectors and a 10% meth mix. I'm hoping for circa 410.
You might be ok with a FPR but would deffo go front mount. Harvey does them for about £350 I think, not only keep temps down but look the dogs rude bits too.

phil739 26 April 2011 10:27 AM

any mappers want to add there imput on this

phil739 28 April 2011 07:04 PM

bump

grahamc 28 April 2011 08:01 PM

my 2002 prodrive sti bug is running about 370 on:

AF TD05 20g - 1.5bar boost
850cc injectors
walbro fuel pump
single decat
panel filter

In the next few months, I am adding:

Hybrid FMIC & CAK
GT headers
Uppipe

Hoping for around the 400 mark... but thats on v-power, no meth.

phil739 28 May 2011 12:34 PM

well all fitted and mapped

only made 375 , a little gutted really
but thats life

phil

astra_dave 28 May 2011 12:39 PM

that sucks a little

phil739 28 May 2011 12:48 PM

yeah
injectors where maxed even with a adj fpr. maybe the meths

might be time for bigger injectors
anyone know if its better to get my 550 flowed to say 800 or just buy 800's ?

jura11 28 May 2011 12:52 PM


Originally Posted by phil739 (Post 10062085)
yeah
injectors where maxed even with a adj fpr. maybe the meths

might be time for bigger injectors
anyone know if its better to get my 550 flowed to say 800 or just buy 800's ?


650cc will be OK for 20G and other turbos.


Jura

Midlife...... 28 May 2011 12:54 PM

Blue injectors from the hatch come up on here from time to time as do modded blue injectors from the bug wrx (Milleniumracer did quite a few). Might save a few pennies over buying new.

Shaun

MattyB1983 28 May 2011 02:27 PM

Yea 375 isn't great power considering your using 20% meth.
Get some bigger injectors like 650's and you'll see far better results. I'm in a similar position to you fella, just waiting to fit new box and injectors then going for a 10% meth mix. We think I'll see 400+ which I'll be very happy with.

Stevesbluewrx 28 May 2011 10:17 PM

My pinks maxed out at 402bhp on the MD321 T on the STi TMIC. I had a FPR to help though.


Steve

phil739 29 May 2011 10:20 AM

looks like new inectors then ...lol

cheers guys
was a little dissappointed as didnt make closer to 400 but still 375 isnt that bad ..lol


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