bugeye power question
car is about ready for a mapping session
its a my02 uk sti mods simtec td05 20g adj fpr rcm headers and up-pipe standard sti top mount standard pink injectors 3" full decat 20% methanol mix walbor pump just debating if its worth adding a front mount and having the injectors flowed ?? what power do you think i will see without doing the fmic and injectors and what would i gain if i did ??? yes i know my clutch will be close to max , and for the keyboard warriors brakes and suspension have already been upgraded cheers phil |
Front mount would be nice...........Harvey can supply :) Are you still using your 8 year olf fuel pump ??
Shaun |
edit post forgot about that
thanks i know it would be nice but what difference would i see?? cheers phil |
Hi Phill
FMIC will be addition,you will probably see lower temps and more BHP. And probably your Injectors are probably maxed,i would recommend fit at least FPR or get your injectors flowed to 650cc Jura |
all have a adjustable fpr on list mate
just trying to find out how much bhp extra i would likely see and if its worth the extra cash |
Originally Posted by phil739
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all have a adjustable fpr on list mate
just trying to find out how much bhp extra i would likely see and if its worth the extra cash How much BHP you are now running? With TD05-20G you can push up to 420bhp with meth,some without will make around 380-400bhp Jura |
You can recoup quite a bit of the cost of a more efficient FMIC by selling on your STi TMIC :D In respect of injectors, I think the pinks should cope as remember you are throwing in 1/5th Methanol which should require less volome of actual fuel. (I think that's right) LOL
Shaun |
Originally Posted by jura11
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How much BHP you are now running?
With TD05-20G you can push up to 420bhp with meth,some without will make around 380-400bhp Jura its not been mapped yet on the above only on the orginal ecu and vf35 the mods above are what i have collected and fitted in the last month or so are the figures your quoting with or without fmic? |
Originally Posted by Midlife......
(Post 10004173)
You can recoup quite a bit of the cost of a more efficient FMIC by selling on your STi TMIC :D In respect of injectors, I think the pinks should cope as remember you are throwing in 1/5th Methanol which should require less volome of actual fuel. (I think that's right) LOL
Shaun yeah i know mate, but if adding a fmic is only going to add say 10bhp more over a top mount i have to weigh up if its worth it or not hence my post |
The FMIC is better at keeping charge temps down.......have a search on here about Harvey's work on FMIC / TMIC using real measurements and not guesswork.
And then you will go and buy one. Shaun PS what's on the induction side of things ?? Shaun Mine.. http://i51.tinypic.com/2v2zfih.jpg |
yeah that could be another issue
i have a inner wing aps nice looking motor what front mount / pipework do you have anymore pics of the pipework when can you fit mine ...lol |
FMIC is actually an APS DR 500 jobby, It's quite old and I think it cost me about £1.2k eeek !! but was best at the time, Nowadays still probably not as good as a Hybrid GT2 :(
It was actually fitted not a million miles away from you at Roger Clark........another exercise in wallet removal LOL Harvey should be able to advise on wing mounted CAC as he has worked with them :) Shaun |
I made 360/400 on a 2.5 without Meths and headers. You should make over 400bhp
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any more input
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I made 382 without meth. My RCM 550's were pretty close to their limit to be honest though.
I'm now going with bigger injectors and a 10% meth mix. I'm hoping for circa 410. You might be ok with a FPR but would deffo go front mount. Harvey does them for about £350 I think, not only keep temps down but look the dogs rude bits too. |
any mappers want to add there imput on this
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my 2002 prodrive sti bug is running about 370 on:
AF TD05 20g - 1.5bar boost 850cc injectors walbro fuel pump single decat panel filter In the next few months, I am adding: Hybrid FMIC & CAK GT headers Uppipe Hoping for around the 400 mark... but thats on v-power, no meth. |
well all fitted and mapped
only made 375 , a little gutted really but thats life phil |
that sucks a little
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yeah
injectors where maxed even with a adj fpr. maybe the meths might be time for bigger injectors anyone know if its better to get my 550 flowed to say 800 or just buy 800's ? |
Originally Posted by phil739
(Post 10062085)
yeah
injectors where maxed even with a adj fpr. maybe the meths might be time for bigger injectors anyone know if its better to get my 550 flowed to say 800 or just buy 800's ? 650cc will be OK for 20G and other turbos. Jura |
Blue injectors from the hatch come up on here from time to time as do modded blue injectors from the bug wrx (Milleniumracer did quite a few). Might save a few pennies over buying new.
Shaun |
Yea 375 isn't great power considering your using 20% meth.
Get some bigger injectors like 650's and you'll see far better results. I'm in a similar position to you fella, just waiting to fit new box and injectors then going for a 10% meth mix. We think I'll see 400+ which I'll be very happy with. |
My pinks maxed out at 402bhp on the MD321 T on the STi TMIC. I had a FPR to help though.
Steve |
looks like new inectors then ...lol
cheers guys was a little dissappointed as didnt make closer to 400 but still 375 isnt that bad ..lol |
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