Notices
ScoobyNet General General Subaru Discussion

500bhp Build

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 08:40 PM
  #1  
DGodden87's Avatar
DGodden87
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
From: Kent
Default 500bhp Build

Who would you guys recommend the most to do a 500hp engine build?
I've had work done before by APi on my previous scoob including engine rebuilt (bottom end) and the gearbox but now am going to be starting a new project and going for 500bhp

So far looked at APi, Scooby Clinic and Roger Clark

Anyone had a big build done by the above before????
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 08:43 PM
  #2  
Tidgy's Avatar
Tidgy
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 23,118
Likes: 150
From: Notts
Default

API or clinic would be my choice, RC are good, but you pay way ott in my opinion.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 08:46 PM
  #3  
SpecDscooby's Avatar
SpecDscooby
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Dec 2010
Posts: 931
Likes: 1
From: 07 Spec D, in progress
Default

F1 CJE UK just got a serious Hawk WRX build done by RCM (high 400's i believe, but capably of much more).....pics can be seen in members gallery....looks a beast, and he seems VERY impressed with it....
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 08:46 PM
  #4  
DGodden87's Avatar
DGodden87
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
From: Kent
Default

Why are RC so expensive, i mean all 3 are good at what they do but why are they so much more than the other 2???
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 08:56 PM
  #5  
Tidgy's Avatar
Tidgy
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 23,118
Likes: 150
From: Notts
Default

Originally Posted by DGodden87
Why are RC so expensive, i mean all 3 are good at what they do but why are they so much more than the other 2???
tis a mystery to me too
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 09:09 PM
  #6  
mervil's Avatar
mervil
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,517
Likes: 1
From: Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 8 RS
Default

API or Engine Tuner
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 09:15 PM
  #7  
gus sti8's Avatar
gus sti8
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Oct 2009
Posts: 1,445
Likes: 0
From: sheffield my03 sti 600ish/540ish
Default

enginetuner for me no bull****!!!!
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 09:20 PM
  #8  
DGodden87's Avatar
DGodden87
Thread Starter
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Mar 2010
Posts: 59
Likes: 0
From: Kent
Default

Where are engine tuner based, not heard of them before
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 09:21 PM
  #9  
johnpye's Avatar
johnpye
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Dec 2008
Posts: 470
Likes: 0
From: Cheltenham
Default

Scooby projects Ledbury. Place to watch for the future!!
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 09:36 PM
  #10  
Myles's Avatar
Myles
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (40)
 
Joined: Sep 2007
Posts: 6,106
Likes: 1
From: Marlow, Bucks.
Default

Originally Posted by DGodden87
Where are engine tuner based, not heard of them before
Couldnt be much more difficult for you to get to, they are in Plymouth. Well worth the trip in my opinion.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 09:41 PM
  #11  
F1 CJE UK's Avatar
F1 CJE UK
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,931
Likes: 0
From: MK
Default

Originally Posted by DGodden87
Why are RC so expensive, i mean all 3 are good at what they do but why are they so much more than the other 2???
Quality and attention to detail. Its the small things that make a great car, No RCM project car is identical; they are all evolutions with parts coming off their time attack cars to keep them at the top of the tree.

Not saying any of the other people you have said wouldn’t do i great job i am sure they would, The RCM experience is very special and in the end you get what you want.

https://www.scoobynet.com/members-ga...rcm-style.html

Last edited by F1 CJE UK; Feb 20, 2011 at 09:52 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 09:45 PM
  #12  
Tidgy's Avatar
Tidgy
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 23,118
Likes: 150
From: Notts
Default

Originally Posted by F1 CJE UK
Quality and attention to detail. Its the small things that make a great car, No RCM project car is identical; they are all evolutions with parts coming off their time attack cars to keep them at the top of the tree.

Not saying any of the other people you have said wouldn’t do i great job i am sure they would, The RCM experience is very special and in the end you get what you want.
Thing is though you could say that about other tuners, some of which run more race cars and have more success.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 09:52 PM
  #13  
F1 CJE UK's Avatar
F1 CJE UK
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,931
Likes: 0
From: MK
Default

Who ? Not saying that other couldn’t I have never used anyone but Zen and RCM but my experience was very positive

Last edited by F1 CJE UK; Feb 20, 2011 at 09:53 PM.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 09:59 PM
  #14  
mtech25's Avatar
mtech25
Scooby Newbie
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 5
Likes: 0
Default

Eurospec 2000, built my 500 bhp GTO, easily could be around 700 but didnt have enough money for even bigger turbos, daily driven for the last 8-9 months, was a expensive build but well worth it due to warrantee etc given by them..
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 10:10 PM
  #15  
stevebt's Avatar
stevebt
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 16,732
Likes: 33
Default

If he has the time I would get SD Motorsport to do it
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 10:14 PM
  #16  
stevebt's Avatar
stevebt
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 16,732
Likes: 33
Default

Originally Posted by DGodden87
Why are RC so expensive, i mean all 3 are good at what they do but why are they so much more than the other 2???

You always have to use RCM parts in a big build so why not use them out right The parts the use are tried and tested quality parts that work in high end builds, why take a chance on your engine for cheaper parts???
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 10:16 PM
  #17  
Apostle's Avatar
Apostle
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Jul 2008
Posts: 477
Likes: 0
Thumbs up simples...

Enginetuner.co.uk

A
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 10:20 PM
  #18  
JP4's Avatar
JP4
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Jun 2007
Posts: 3,734
Likes: 0
From: 700+ WR1 aka The Vuvu Zela...10.6 @ 136 weighing 1370kg....say no more....
Default

Originally Posted by stevebt
You always have to use RCM parts in a big build so why not use them out right The parts the use are tried and tested quality parts that work in high end builds, why take a chance on your engine for cheaper parts???

Agree with Steve.

RCM will also offer advice, supply and fit/build - one stop shop and all under one roof! Reputation is second to none.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 10:23 PM
  #19  
Tidgy's Avatar
Tidgy
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 23,118
Likes: 150
From: Notts
Default

Originally Posted by stevebt
You always have to use RCM parts in a big build so why not use them out right The parts the use are tried and tested quality parts that work in high end builds, why take a chance on your engine for cheaper parts???
what makes you think that? alot of RCM parts are rebrands of others.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 10:24 PM
  #20  
chocolate_o_brian's Avatar
chocolate_o_brian
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (22)
 
Joined: May 2006
Posts: 21,415
Likes: 0
From: Doncaster, S. Yorks.
Default

David O'Brien @ API - the end.
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 10:27 PM
  #21  
stevebt's Avatar
stevebt
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 16,732
Likes: 33
Default

Originally Posted by Tidgy
what makes you think that? alot of RCM parts are rebrands of others.

Which would you take the chance on then? for example RCM verniers or Jun verniers? both good makes! one could of copied the other but RCM verniers never seem to fail!
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 10:28 PM
  #22  
Anger's Avatar
Anger
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (4)
 
Joined: Dec 2004
Posts: 4,848
Likes: 30
From: Surrey
Default

If you was happy with API before... why change
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 10:44 PM
  #23  
Tidgy's Avatar
Tidgy
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 23,118
Likes: 150
From: Notts
Default

Originally Posted by stevebt
Which would you take the chance on then? for example RCM verniers or Jun verniers? both good makes! one could of copied the other but RCM verniers never seem to fail!

depends fi there the same or not.

it slike brake disks, alot of the tners own brands are infact take off the same production lnes as the major known companies and just stamped with a different logo
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 10:54 PM
  #24  
stevebt's Avatar
stevebt
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Sep 2002
Posts: 16,732
Likes: 33
Default

Tidgy, I don't know what they rebrand or even if they do ?? I was just using an example of a part which is pretty crucial in a big build. I doubt Jun would copy RCM so it would only leave it to fall another way. I have heard of Jun verniers killing engines but I have never heard of RCM ones doing that. Most of there parts are guaranteed plug and play wwhereas other people you maay need to spend a little more cash to get things working?
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 10:57 PM
  #25  
Tidgy's Avatar
Tidgy
Scooby Regular
 
Joined: Sep 2004
Posts: 23,118
Likes: 150
From: Notts
Default

not trying to belittle or slag off, what im getting at is that just because soemthing cost more doesn't mean your getting better
Reply
Old Feb 20, 2011 | 11:02 PM
  #26  
stevie1982's Avatar
stevie1982
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (16)
 
Joined: Nov 2005
Posts: 6,023
Likes: 0
Default

Can't understand why if you have had work done by API and were happy why you would not go back and have them do a 500plus big build, I am sure it would not be their first nor would it be the last!

Plenty of tuners out there that have been mentioned, the clinc, engine tuner etc, if money was no object I think 99.9% would have RCM build it just to say it's an RCM built car lol, if money was an object and is for most then for me David and the team at API would already have the car and me pestering them daily to find out when it was ready

Best of luck but

Why do you want a 500+ build? You planning on using it properly or just spanking best part of 15-20 grand to drive to the shops and back, pub talk and 2-3 track days a year?
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2011 | 12:20 AM
  #27  
F1 CJE UK's Avatar
F1 CJE UK
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (8)
 
Joined: Jan 2006
Posts: 4,931
Likes: 0
From: MK
Default

Originally Posted by Tidgy
what makes you think that? alot of RCM parts are rebrands of others.
RCM also do alot of work with other brands like cosworth etc? so who is rebranding who ?

Any good build for 500bhp will end up using RCM parts fact travis subaru rally team USA use RCM parts
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2011 | 12:21 AM
  #28  
frayz's Avatar
frayz
Essex Area Moderator
Essex Subaru Owners Club Badge
iTrader: (7)
 
Joined: Sep 2005
Posts: 19,945
Likes: 2
From: "Engineering Perfection in Essex"
Default

Build it yourself

Lol JK

Agreed, if youre happy with API then go back. If not then go to someone else you feel you trust
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2011 | 07:41 AM
  #29  
gpssti4's Avatar
gpssti4
Scooby Regular
20 Year Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Joined: Nov 2004
Posts: 4,404
Likes: 1
From: Deepest Darkest Kernow
Default

Living in Cornwall I have lots of local choice I'd stilll travel to API though or maybe if I sold the house RCM
Reply
Old Feb 21, 2011 | 07:55 AM
  #30  
mervil's Avatar
mervil
Scooby Regular
iTrader: (5)
 
Joined: Aug 2003
Posts: 6,517
Likes: 1
From: Mitsubishi Lancer Evolution 8 RS
Default

Just give Alan a ring at Engine Tuner, he won't bullsh1t you by telling you need stuff when you don't and will give you progress reports too! I received either a phone call or PM every couple of days letting me know how the build was going
Reply



All times are GMT +1. The time now is 06:58 PM.