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Old 29 November 2010, 11:09 AM
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in your OPINION , what power should i be gettin from a 02 jdm prodrive bug , with decat downpipe , 3' all the way back, walbro fuel pump, apexi induction , and ecutek'ed to 1.5 bar ???
Old 29 November 2010, 11:21 AM
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320-340?
Old 29 November 2010, 12:27 PM
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About 330 -340 mate.

All cars are different though so it's a guess. Lots of factors will give you poor or better readings etc.

Steve
Old 29 November 2010, 03:46 PM
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mine 2001 JDM STI is running 344.5bhp.. list of mods is similar, apexi induction, sports cat on the uprated zort, walbro fuel pump, FMIC & full remap on a stock Turbo seeing it hit 1.5bar max on the defi's at ScoobyClinic They did say thats high figures on a stock turbo & usually with similar mods hit between 320-335bhp. Get it on the rollers m8 best way to find out if car is healthy or not
Old 29 November 2010, 06:04 PM
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As above 325-345 assuming it's an STi and mapped by someone reputable.

Last edited by dnc; 29 November 2010 at 06:06 PM.
Old 29 November 2010, 07:39 PM
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My UK bugeye STI made 340 bhp with a decent FMIC... and a sports cat'd exhaust system.

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Old 30 November 2010, 10:06 AM
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bob map , dyno dynamics rollin road , and results were 302/310. dissapointed

i seem to be missing about thirty ponies , has anyone seen them ????

and yesh she be's a sti , prodrive style !
Old 30 November 2010, 10:14 AM
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had the same issue myself with figures on the same car but uk , going to try a different rollers in jan if no joy back to the mapper

was bob mapping it at hte time , if so what did he say ?
Old 30 November 2010, 10:28 AM
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Neutral position switch?
Old 30 November 2010, 10:59 AM
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Originally Posted by Bicco
Neutral position switch?

???

whats this
Old 30 November 2010, 11:52 AM
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I have a 2003 JDM, so assuming this is the same on both years of car with the gearbox etc, There is a switch on top of the gearbox that tells the ecu when it`s in neutrol, unfortunatley made of plastic and prone to wearing out.
I`ve seen it twice on mine now. in only 3 years. The car runs prefectley smoothly when its not working and will make quite good power, but is usually about 40bhp down on where it should be. If i remeber rightly it thinks its in neutrol and stops the avcs heads from kicking in. Paul at Zen diagnosed it on mine when it first went for mapping.
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cheers
thats interesting will try and do a little search on it

anyone else heard of this ?
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Obvious fault to spot whilst mapping, your car will feel very smooth from tickover to limiter, BUT there will be no "kick" when the AVCS should be engaged due to a faulty NPS.

HTH

dunx

P.S. Diagnosed on mine whilst mapping too !
Old 30 November 2010, 01:05 PM
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Bob would of spotted if the NPS was faulty surely ??
Old 30 November 2010, 02:14 PM
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few months in between mapping and rollin road . also was mapped on road , not on rollers !

would a copy of graph be any help to you guys that know ??
Old 30 November 2010, 02:34 PM
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Mine was mapped on the road, most are, Paul just tweeks on the rollers when done. Can`t hurt to post a graph copy, might be quite hard to tell from this though. I`ll find mine (similar spec) to compare. Could have gone post mapping easy enough in that gap, so as to be not spotted when the mapping was done.
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Originally Posted by Bicco
Neutral position switch?

Had my bug sti done just over a week ago and Duncan from racedynamix picked up that my neutral position switch was faulty, still managed to do the map. Will be of to Zen sometime early next year for the rollers

just waiting to get my new one fitted and should be happy days
Old 30 November 2010, 07:51 PM
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Originally Posted by macmac
in your OPINION , what power should i be gettin from a 02 jdm prodrive bug , with decat downpipe , 3' all the way back, walbro fuel pump, apexi induction , and ecutek'ed to 1.5 bar ???
Well if its a JDM car it wont be prodrive. Only uk cars have prodrive packs.
Old 30 November 2010, 09:40 PM
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so how much are these nps's and where do you buy them from if needed , and also while am asking are they easy to change


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Originally Posted by BLACK V5
Well if its a JDM car it wont be prodrive. Only uk cars have prodrive packs.

read reply #7 "prodrive S T Y L E "
Old 01 December 2010, 10:55 AM
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Mine have come from subaru / Roger Clark, think they were about £45, easy part to change but in an awkward position, right on the top of the gearbox.
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Really common fault on bugs and increasingly on blobeyes.

Post the graph - there may be another explanation
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no graph but just found out that if it was the nps then my car would be running rich and when it was on the rollers the operator said fueling was fine


back to the drawing board to find my missing ponys ...lol

dynamix - may need to speak at some point
Old 01 December 2010, 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by phil739
no graph but just found out that if it was the nps then my car would be running rich and when it was on the rollers the operator said fueling was fine
Not necessarily ...

Originally Posted by phil739
back to the drawing board to find my missing ponys ...lol

dynamix - may need to speak at some point
no worries mate
Old 02 December 2010, 10:34 AM
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Not sure if this is a silly question but the car whilst on the on the rollers was with high ron fuel? right? Mine was done with shells V-power. I always use that & nothing else.. if it was done with a lower grade of fuel this could be the same amount of missing ponies
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having trouble uploading graph , will do asap

was mapped for , and onlly gets 99ron fuel in tank !!
Old 02 December 2010, 02:33 PM
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Hi guys,

Does this affect both Jdm & uk cars?, anyone got a pic of it & how can u tell if its gone?

thanks

shaun....
Old 02 December 2010, 11:01 PM
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i to would like to knowif you can find out if the nps has gone?
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Originally Posted by macmac
read reply #7 "prodrive S T Y L E "


well m8, ave u checked an made sure u no leaks on system n e where, now u no sum say what the rolling roads are like, some give one reading, then another give a higher, ps, got best kept new age on the Burns run
Old 02 December 2010, 11:26 PM
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the mapping guys would be able to tell if the switch is faffin about, quick fix is thinner copper washer, new switch about 40 to 50 quid off subaru, all new age have them


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