Grrr....why does everyone want low mileage?!
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Grrr....why does everyone want low mileage?!
Had my Spec D up for sale for nearly a month now. It's done 65k, priced reasonably, full Subaru history and the previous owner to me was a mature guy who used it for a motorway commute, hence the mileage. Hardly had any interest as it seems everyone wants low mileage.
Surely a car that has had an easy life on the motorway, especially a turbo engined car, at peak operating temperature and looked after by a mature sensible guy is a better bet than one that has lower mileage and may have had a harder life?
What are your thoughts?
Surely a car that has had an easy life on the motorway, especially a turbo engined car, at peak operating temperature and looked after by a mature sensible guy is a better bet than one that has lower mileage and may have had a harder life?
What are your thoughts?
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Trouble is with a little searchingyou come across cars like this http://www.pistonheads.co.uk/sales/2078701.htm
with half the mileage and ony a grand more ?
I'm not saying your car is too expensive but you may want to drop the price slightly to move it. Its a buyers market out there
Good luck with the sale
with half the mileage and ony a grand more ?
I'm not saying your car is too expensive but you may want to drop the price slightly to move it. Its a buyers market out there
Good luck with the sale
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It doesn't matter about the mileage to an extent it could say 35k but that 35k could have been done hitting the red line in every gear all day long with not even an oil change.
What i am trying to say you just don't now how the car has been driven in the past.
What i am trying to say you just don't now how the car has been driven in the past.
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I went to look at a wrx with 70k on it when I was looking. Ended up buying the one next to it with 94k for near enough same price.
Difference? Over £8k of invoices! Would rather have a higher mileage car thats been looked after.
Difference? Over £8k of invoices! Would rather have a higher mileage car thats been looked after.
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I saw one for sale with 50k, but had just had a re-con gearbox, which i thought was odd for a 6 speed.
Checked the reg at work and i'd insured the car 2 years before..... when it'd done 120k+!!!
'Lower mileage' ones aren't always a better choice!!!
Checked the reg at work and i'd insured the car 2 years before..... when it'd done 120k+!!!
'Lower mileage' ones aren't always a better choice!!!
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Had my Spec D up for sale for nearly a month now. It's done 65k, priced reasonably, full Subaru history and the previous owner to me was a mature guy who used it for a motorway commute, hence the mileage. Hardly had any interest as it seems everyone wants low mileage.
Surely a car that has had an easy life on the motorway, especially a turbo engined car, at peak operating temperature and looked after by a mature sensible guy is a better bet than one that has lower mileage and may have had a harder life?
What are your thoughts?
Surely a car that has had an easy life on the motorway, especially a turbo engined car, at peak operating temperature and looked after by a mature sensible guy is a better bet than one that has lower mileage and may have had a harder life?
What are your thoughts?
I agree with you. My '03 car has crept over 100k due to motorway cruising with a big wodge of service history. I'm not really in a position to sell and upgrade currently and I'm sure the mileage would be an issue.
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I also don't think the higher roadtax on post 2006 cars helps at the moment as I think all spec d's are. this along with a smaller market as most want a full blown sti with spoiler etc. It takes a while to sell cars like scooby's anyhow due to high running costs a buyer will come along you just need to wait it out. took me about 6 weeks to sell my wrx a few months ago but first genuine person left a deposit there and then,
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We all want low mileage cars .... it's just how it is, it's inbuilt in us.
Picture the adverts:-
1. Impreza, Blue, 2006, 20,000 miles, one owner, mint.
2. Impreza, Blue, 2006, 120,000 miles, one owner, mint.
Don't know about you, but, No 1 is much more appealing isn't it? Even if logic says that the higher mileage may have done the mileage you would choose.
Just how it is, and will remain.
Picture the adverts:-
1. Impreza, Blue, 2006, 20,000 miles, one owner, mint.
2. Impreza, Blue, 2006, 120,000 miles, one owner, mint.
Don't know about you, but, No 1 is much more appealing isn't it? Even if logic says that the higher mileage may have done the mileage you would choose.
Just how it is, and will remain.
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I suppose like you say were all conditioned to mileage being a major factor, but in my humble opinion it isnt quite so important with modern cars(within reason). Think I'd be a bit iffy about 150k+ miles.
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All you can do is make your car look the most attractive to the buyer, and that is normally price to start with. When the buyer comes to look then condition and how it has been looked after will come in to it (service history etc). Higer mileage will generally mean lower price. Everybody wants the best car at the lowest price afterall!
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We all want low mileage cars .... it's just how it is, it's inbuilt in us.
Picture the adverts:-
1. Impreza, Blue, 2006, 20,000 miles, one owner, mint.
2. Impreza, Blue, 2006, 120,000 miles, one owner, mint.
Don't know about you, but, No 1 is much more appealing isn't it? Even if logic says that the higher mileage may have done the mileage you would choose.
Just how it is, and will remain.
Picture the adverts:-
1. Impreza, Blue, 2006, 20,000 miles, one owner, mint.
2. Impreza, Blue, 2006, 120,000 miles, one owner, mint.
Don't know about you, but, No 1 is much more appealing isn't it? Even if logic says that the higher mileage may have done the mileage you would choose.
Just how it is, and will remain.
1. Impreza, Blue, 2006, 20,000 miles, one owner, mint.
2. Impreza, Blue, 2006, 120,000 miles, one owner, mint, FSSH.
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I've been toying with the idea of picking up an old battered Jaguar XJ to totter back and forth work in and went to see a guy who specialises in them.
I asked him why there is hardly any difference in the price of car that have done 50k or 150k and he said its because if anything was gonna go wrong it does so early. If it aint gone bang by 100k its not going to.
He said to definately take a high miler over a low miler. He wasnt trying to sell me anything so I took his advice at face value.
A colleague of mine who is a former mechanic says to always beware the car that's never been driven hard. You might just end up being the owner who blows it up as soon as you drive it harder than its ever been driven.
Obviously there's a balance here.
I think that balance needs to be based on milage, service history and honesty of the seller as to exactly how its been driven.
I asked him why there is hardly any difference in the price of car that have done 50k or 150k and he said its because if anything was gonna go wrong it does so early. If it aint gone bang by 100k its not going to.
He said to definately take a high miler over a low miler. He wasnt trying to sell me anything so I took his advice at face value.
A colleague of mine who is a former mechanic says to always beware the car that's never been driven hard. You might just end up being the owner who blows it up as soon as you drive it harder than its ever been driven.
Obviously there's a balance here.
I think that balance needs to be based on milage, service history and honesty of the seller as to exactly how its been driven.
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I'd always try and get a low miler for 2 reasons:
1, you by a car with 65k, do 25k yourself and try selling it a few years down the with 90k on the clock, what happens, no one wants to buy it and you have to sell it for silly money to move it on just as is happening with the OP.
2, Its not all about the engine, this is what people forget, those rear shocks have done the miles, the discs, the seats have had a fat **** in them for that time, added general wear and tear inside an out on both cosmetic and mechanical parts, inc CV boots, exhausts etc etc.
My 2 pence worth!
1, you by a car with 65k, do 25k yourself and try selling it a few years down the with 90k on the clock, what happens, no one wants to buy it and you have to sell it for silly money to move it on just as is happening with the OP.
2, Its not all about the engine, this is what people forget, those rear shocks have done the miles, the discs, the seats have had a fat **** in them for that time, added general wear and tear inside an out on both cosmetic and mechanical parts, inc CV boots, exhausts etc etc.
My 2 pence worth!
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I'd always try and get a low miler for 2 reasons:
1, you by a car with 65k, do 25k yourself and try selling it a few years down the with 90k on the clock, what happens, no one wants to buy it and you have to sell it for silly money to move it on just as is happening with the OP.
2, Its not all about the engine, this is what people forget, those rear shocks have done the miles, the discs, the seats have had a fat **** in them for that time, added general wear and tear inside an out on both cosmetic and mechanical parts, inc CV boots, exhausts etc etc.
My 2 pence worth!
1, you by a car with 65k, do 25k yourself and try selling it a few years down the with 90k on the clock, what happens, no one wants to buy it and you have to sell it for silly money to move it on just as is happening with the OP.
2, Its not all about the engine, this is what people forget, those rear shocks have done the miles, the discs, the seats have had a fat **** in them for that time, added general wear and tear inside an out on both cosmetic and mechanical parts, inc CV boots, exhausts etc etc.
My 2 pence worth!
The wear and tear on other parts is a big factor to putting me off higher mileage cars. Now ive fixed everything(for now), im running the old girl in to the dirt as i wuv her . If i were to buy another id be looking for the normal things and prob 50k max on the clock regardless of age.
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I bought my car after it had been adverstised for one day in the trader. I had viewed loads of cars some with 20-30k miles less but the overall condition was rubbish. I fell in love with my STi that has a fully stamped book and good history with only 3 owners.
The intial worry for many first time Scooby buyers is the worry of not spotting an issue/fault with the car so they go for a lower mileage to ease the worry.
Be supportive and spend time with them going over your car.. The guys thats sold me mine showed me 2 others they had for sale and were happy to let me take them all out to comapre. If you have a friend with a scooby see if they can help out.
The intial worry for many first time Scooby buyers is the worry of not spotting an issue/fault with the car so they go for a lower mileage to ease the worry.
Be supportive and spend time with them going over your car.. The guys thats sold me mine showed me 2 others they had for sale and were happy to let me take them all out to comapre. If you have a friend with a scooby see if they can help out.
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If it makes you feel better my 26k spec d is still unsold after a month on the market. Saying that I could have sold it for 11k the other day, but I'd rather keep it than give it away. Hold out for the right money/buyer
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sold my 53plate ctr after a day on autotrader and went and brought a 2.5 n/a legacy with 124,000 on the clock and blown headgaskets that were so bad the exhaust was filling with water!
reason is i need something to sit on the drive that will hardly get used and couldn't warrant a nice car like the civic.
i'd drop the price a bit and wait for the right person to come along, they will you just have to be patient.
reason is i need something to sit on the drive that will hardly get used and couldn't warrant a nice car like the civic.
i'd drop the price a bit and wait for the right person to come along, they will you just have to be patient.
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I've said it before and I'll say it again, looks too cheap fella....aka.... 'ohh **** it's going wrong I must sell it quickly' !
Better off priced at 10,495 and giving the buyer the perception that he can get a SpecD for under 10 grand ! sounds mental but it's true
If I were selling my mint £10k mile SpecD it would be more than 9995 I can tell you !
Better off priced at 10,495 and giving the buyer the perception that he can get a SpecD for under 10 grand ! sounds mental but it's true
If I were selling my mint £10k mile SpecD it would be more than 9995 I can tell you !
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Thanks for all of your input. I honestly can't see it selling for more than £10k if it aint sellin for that at the moment. The new owner will get the balance of the Subaru warranty so hopefully put peoples mind at ease. Just amazed at the complete lack of interest! Will keep at it. Maybe Ebay next! Not rushing to sell but never known the car market so quiet!
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it depends if you need a quick sale mate. if you do then reduce the price, if you don,t then take your time and it will catch someone eye. its not all about mileage more condition ,service history how it drives and for me how many owners and to be honest its not a good time to sell performance cars at the moment. small diesel cars are selling like mad... good luck with sale
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There an old selling trick that buyers fall for, that being - expensive = good.
The opposite is also true - cheap = poor quality.
You should up the asking price, you got nothing to lose as nobodys interested at the moment. No offence.
A psychologist called Robert Cialdini has spent his carreer looking at how to influence people. The expensive = good trap has been used for decades.
Give it a go.
The opposite is also true - cheap = poor quality.
You should up the asking price, you got nothing to lose as nobodys interested at the moment. No offence.
A psychologist called Robert Cialdini has spent his carreer looking at how to influence people. The expensive = good trap has been used for decades.
Give it a go.
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I think the subtle side of it could actually be the problem. I'm an enthusiast who wants a Hawk STI but with the lary extras. If I was after a discreet car with leather interior i'd probably change brand and get something with better mpg and cheaper tax.
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I've got it on here and Pistonheads. Used Pistonheads a few times before and it always comes up good, especially with performance cars. Not rushing to sell (not that I have a choice!) but would have thought after a month for sale, I would have had more than one e-mail about it! Oh well!