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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 01:30 PM
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Default 08 sti suddenly using oil/ advice needed

I always check the oil on my STi every week and never uses a drop, however this week its gone from max to min in about 200miles!

I haven’t noticed any smoke from the exhaust, no rattles from the engine either, but a small bit of hesitation between 2&3K but not all the time.

Planning to go on holiday with on Friday so hopefully nothing serious, anyone got any suggestions to where all the oils gone?
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 01:48 PM
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I think its going to be bad news
https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...-failures.html

I would book your car in for an inspection with your local dealer asap

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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 02:00 PM
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Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooo!

I hope not, need the car for a 1000miles trip next week
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 02:11 PM
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Sorry to be the bearer of bad news, but I don't think you'll be taking the scoob.

The symptoms you describe are the symptoms every other user has described just before a big bang.
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 02:36 PM
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Get it booked in for a compression & leakdown test, to identify the issue

Excessive oil consumption
Lack of power between 2,000 3,000 Rpm

are all primary symptoms of the dreaded ringland failure I'm affraid

Mine used 4 ltrs in 127 miles when it failed, which was rather concerning as i was miles away from home with it
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 02:59 PM
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Just what I need, only had the car 2 months as well
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 03:34 PM
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only good bit is you should get a full new engine under waranty bud

are there any mods on the car at all?
if so get them off before you put it.
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 03:39 PM
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would have to agree, a quick check would be to take the oil filler cap off or pull the dipstick when running and you'll see exhaust fumes if ringlands/piston/etc........

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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 04:16 PM
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would have to agree, a quick check would be to take the oil filler cap off or pull the dipstick when running and you'll see exhaust fumes if ringlands/piston/etc........

alyn
I have taken the filler cap of while the engine is running, not noted and fumes or smoke at all. The car is factory standard so hopefully shouldn't have any problems with warranty
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I have taken the filler cap of while the engine is running, not noted and fumes or smoke at all. The car is factory standard so hopefully shouldn't have any problems with warranty
Call the dealership first thing on Monday and speak to someone senior there - ideally service manager or the DP explain the problem. They are well aware of this issue.
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 04:30 PM
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This really pisses me of dealer is a 80mile round trip, another day off work / hassle of trying to sort a hire car for my hols. The joys of Subaru ownership.....
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Originally Posted by dr jim
This really pisses me of dealer is a 80mile round trip, another day off work / hassle of trying to sort a hire car for my hols. The joys of Subaru ownership.....
I would be asking the dealership to collect it due to it loosing so much oil and the likely cause and drop off a courtesy car if i was you, friendly but firm with them.

If you drive it to them and it goes pop then it becomes more of an issue to get sorted with 'blame' etc.
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Will be on to the dealer first thing in the morning, reading previous post about this issue I get the impression they either fit a short motor or just change the pistons however there is no mention of a revised part going in so is this likely to happen again in another 12k ? This time it would be out of warranty....
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 06:28 PM
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sorry to be a little bit of topic but is this just the 2.5 sti it affects ??
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 06:44 PM
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usually - mines having a new short block as i type under warranty.
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yep mine 57 plate sti type uk is in the dealers waiting new short engine also...still running in a loaned 1.2 fiesta
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Could you tell me the symptoms your cars dispalyed prior to being confirmed ringland failures ?

So far all i noticed is oil consumption and somtimes a bit hestiant between 2&3K i have not noitced and smoke from the exhaust or from the oil filler cap also no mechaincal noise.
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Originally Posted by dr jim
Could you tell me the symptoms your cars dispalyed prior to being confirmed ringland failures ?

So far all i noticed is oil consumption and somtimes a bit hestiant between 2&3K i have not noitced and smoke from the exhaust or from the oil filler cap also no mechaincal noise.
Smoke on startup
Skipping Starter motor like momentary loss of compression
excessive oil consumption
breathing very heavy/but NO smoke coming from the filler cap/dipstick tube
hesistation as the turbo comes on boost
loads of crap all over the rear bumper & excessivly black tailpipes
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 07:13 PM
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mine blew out blue smoke a couple of times on start up from cold and then rattling just started one morning on the way to work went to garage rest is history
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 07:25 PM
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Thanks for the replies gus, one more question.....

How long does this repair normally take? am i likiley to be without the car for weeks ?
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Originally Posted by rob84
Smoke on startup
Skipping Starter motor like momentary loss of compression
excessive oil consumption
breathing very heavy/but NO smoke coming from the filler cap/dipstick tube
hesistation as the turbo comes on boost
loads of crap all over the rear bumper & excessivly black tailpipes
+1

exact symptoms i had
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 08:55 PM
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Originally Posted by dr jim
Thanks for the replies gus, one more question.....

How long does this repair normally take? am i likiley to be without the car for weeks ?
a couple of weeks maybe longer, last one we did we were waiting for the cam pulley bolts as they were back ordered short motors were out of stock at one point with a 1 month wait but thats has been resolved and are usually here the day after there ordered
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 08:58 PM
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mines taken 2 months

but apply pressure to the dealership, and use a decent dealership!
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 09:12 PM
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Does anyone know the service bullitin that covers this problem? want to be full armed for when i speak to the dealer tomorrow...
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 09:15 PM
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Originally Posted by dr jim
Does anyone know the service bullitin that covers this problem? want to be full armed for when i speak to the dealer tomorrow...
you'll stir up all sorts of hassle if you mention any bullitins, trust me i know, best just to remain calm with your dealer & explain whats happened and that you do know several people who this has happened to.
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mines been in deLERS NEARLY 3 weeks now still no sign of it back
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 09:21 PM
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You should have Subaru assistance as part of the warranty, I think this lasts for 3 years. get them to collect the car and take it to the dealers. Details are in your handbook package. The dealer may give you a courtesy car, ask them nicely. Also check the warranty documents to see what you are entitled to for a major failure which will take time to repair. The dealer may not automatically offer what you are entitled to!
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 09:24 PM
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A quick thought do they change the cats after this work as eating all that oil wont do them any good. Bloody expensive repair bill waiting to happen come MOT time or a couple of years down the line maybe?
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 09:40 PM
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Originally Posted by VinceW
A quick thought do they change the cats after this work as eating all that oil wont do them any good. Bloody expensive repair bill waiting to happen come MOT time or a couple of years down the line maybe?
Depends on the individual technicians thought on the condition of the cat to be honest with you. usually as a precaution I'd personally change it
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Old Aug 15, 2010 | 09:56 PM
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A bit off topic but how may cats are there on the hatch STI? I know there are 2 in the exhaust after the turbo (One in the downpipe, the other in the link pipe under the car). Is there one in the up pipe before the turbo?

I would have thought all cats should be changed as a precaution but I doubt they will be to save Subaru money. The owner a couple of years down the line will pick up the cost come MOT time!
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