rob84

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there are only 2 cats on the hatchback be it a sti or a wrx, downpipe & 2nd cat after the downpipe. The uppipe is decatted on both of these.

We can Put down everything we Think we require to do the rebuild on a request for assistance form which we email off to I.M. It' then down to the powers at be @ I.M if they want to allow us to order a cat to go on said vehicle. To be fair they usually are pretty good and accept most things. But they are clamping down on engine claims. It's getting stupid the amount of things they want proof of or pictures of, and of course they send someone from I.M to take a download from the vehicles ecu so they know exactly what happened at time of failure.

VinceW

IM probably want to see if the ecu has been mapped by a mapper and is running different software. Do you have the facility to check this at the dealers before you submit the claim to IM? I would assume any messing with the ecu will invalidate your warranty immediately?

mickp

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Gutted for you Dr Jim. Hope you get sorted.

Could anyone with engine failure please make sure you add to this thread

https://www.scoobynet.com/scoobynet-...-failures.html

The thread will help anyone who has the problem prove that there are other cases which in turn should make a warranty claim more straight forward.

scoobyboy

we do if i.m ask for it and yes it would invlidate the warranty

urban

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What information does the ECU contain?
Is this a new thing on the hatch?

dr jim

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Yes i will update that thread once problem has been confirmed, just waiting for Subaru asstiance to turn up

scoobyboy

if the check engine light comes on it records all the data at that time it came on, so someone might say they were only doing 30mph when in fact it's nearer 130mph but the ecu will tell the truth.
there is also a cid no. that we can read which should in effect be the same for a particular my of car and version but if the ecu is altered it changes this cid no. so when japan ask for it and it's not what it should be then bye bye warranty.

urban

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Thanks scoobyboy

So the ECU starts recording stuff when the CEL is on.

So person X could be on track today and then tomorrow if the CEL comes on it only starts recording data from then?

urban

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@Scoobyboy again.

Surely this CID then changes if the car is PPP'd?
And I'd imagine Japan wouldn't acknowledge Prodrives map.

mickp

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Very good point. How have failures been handled on PPP cars ?

scooby L

I'd assume it's an IM performance pack, therefore it's an IM warranty issue

rob84

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The cid code changes on the ecu as soon as its tinkered with, any ppp cars have the ecu sent away to be re-programmed and are logged with I.M that they have been altered.

its very clever at recording things in its permenant memory which is only accesed by the dealer with the SSM III. the temporary memory can be erased by any individual with an obd reader.

heres an example from a diesel Particle filter that has recorded a failure.

juggers

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The first two years of the warranty will be underwritten by I.M the third year with any warranty is underwritten by a third party warranty group. (I know this because my misses works for the firm who underwrites for most of the major dealer networks). I am not sure what it has to do with Subaru Japan as i was under the impression I.M spec there cars and underwrite any warranty claims in the first two years.

scoobyboy

i think it's subaru that give the first years warranty then i.m cover the next 2 years which is the 3 then extended goes out to a 3rd party

TonyBurns

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AFAIK with the hatch, Subaru Japan cover the warranty, I.M have to claim through them now.
This could be why (if/when it turns up ) the cosworth has such a crap warranty!

Tony

dr jim

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Well car is back from dealers, they read the Ecu for fault codes (none found), visual inspection on the engine (no problem found), no compression or leak down done.

What a complete waste of my time, just told to monitor oil usage, suppose I just wait till it goes bang!

Butty

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Make a written note of all correspondence over this.
Does the dealer have any confirmation about your concern?

Now go and rag the engine til it pops.
You may as well get it over and done with quickly than ***** foot around.

Westwood2006

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+1 provided that it is definitely, absolutely, positively covered by warranty so you don't get caught out.

They say no fault so drive it like you stole it

scoobyboy

i'd find another dealer

MOTORS S GT

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As above, find another dealer that can be bothered to take on an engine build, it sounds like they don't want the work.
Try Crossroads Subaru, Tredington, they do a lot of engine work for other dealers.

rob84

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I'm dissapointed that they didnt do a compression or leakdown test on the engine :-/

juggers

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The car might not pop untill after March 2011 which by then the warranty will have expired. Maybe that's what they want you should go back and demand a compression and leakdown test.

P4UL

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Mines does this hesitation at around 2-3k, always seems to do it after the fuel has been in the tank about a week though. seems fine after a few miles with new V power in the tank.

Only had mines since April but It is p##sing me off with the feeling that it could go pop any time. Tempted to trade back in against an RB320 that the dealer currently has.
Should have bought a hawkeye when i went to look at them

rob84

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you will find v-power does deteriorate after a week so could be pulling the timing a little to compensate for this. if its ok with new fuel in then dont worry

P4UL

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I had heard this, that the fuel is very unstable and that it is refined to about 102Ron when leaving the refinary, to ensure that it is 99 that you actually get when you fill.

dr jim

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After my disappointing visit to the dealer today who really done f*ck all apart from fob me off with bull I am back at square one .Going on holiday at the end of the week so really need to get compression test done by then, I reallly dont want to drive the car until it blows and leaves me strandid.....

anyone know of a good dealer in the Sussex area thats not afraid to tackle a compression test!

juggers

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Quite a few hawks have poped there engines to. I done a deal on a spec c took a deposit on the phone and the poor chap blew his engine 07 sti on the way to come and do the deal. Now he's waiting for subaru to cover it under warranty.

Dr jim don't stress mate am sure you'll get it sorted in the end.

Immy

brookerss

Dont no about that mine had the same symptoms on a hawkeye, in the end got rid the hassle was imense and that had only done 8k.
Sort of still in the market for another scoob but thinking more on the lines of a blobeye sti dont know if i could trust another 2.5,still things are hassle free in my new focus rs so unsure i should rock the boat at all.

markjmd

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I usually shop for parts at Gatwick Subaru, if it's something I can only get from a dealer, but I've never had any work done there. If they're no use, the next closest would probably be Proven in Haslemere (technically of course that's in Surrey), or perhaps a better option might be to get in touch with Simon aka jollygreenmonster on this forum, and see if he can come out to you and do a test. The guy's a mobile mapper and general scoob expert who covers pretty much the whole of the South, and comes very highly recommended.

Best of luck with your engine woes, whatever happens.

juggers

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I know i might be sounding like a broken record now ,but have you not considered a JAP spec sti/spec c hawkeye?

Immy