What to do? Its frying my head!!!!
09 August 2010, 05:51 PM
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What to do? Its frying my head!!!!
Ok,
As ive been on SN for a while, and read the countless posts with great advice offered by most of you, I feel I need to put this here.
As you can see, I'm currently in a my99 uk turbo, which is more or less standard apart from the wheels, exhaust etc.
Ive had many plans that have fallen by the wayside mostly due to lack of available funding. However, I'm now dead set on getting her some new bits. Im going to ask for your opinions, as It does help, and I do appreciate it!
Option 1:
Coilovers, new exhaust, paint correction and dent removal, brake upgrade, remap, new TMIC, bolt in cage, front and rear strut brace, carbon door cards and an interior re-trim. Maybe a few other LITTLE bits and pieces.
Option 2:
Full 2.1 forged stroker engine with upgraded turbo and ancills, running at 400 bhp, with everything else on hold.
Now, the dilema I have is that over the next few months, I could put past some of my measly army wages into the kitty, so if option 1 gets it, bit by bit each month. If option 2 gets it, I lose the car for a while and possibly pay out more over the months.
I have already emailed the 'main places' like API,RCM,Scooby Projects, Scooby Clinic and Scoobyworld, but all your advice is great.
Hope to get the decision made soon!
Thanks in advance for the help,
Kris
As ive been on SN for a while, and read the countless posts with great advice offered by most of you, I feel I need to put this here.
As you can see, I'm currently in a my99 uk turbo, which is more or less standard apart from the wheels, exhaust etc.
Ive had many plans that have fallen by the wayside mostly due to lack of available funding. However, I'm now dead set on getting her some new bits. Im going to ask for your opinions, as It does help, and I do appreciate it!
Option 1:
Coilovers, new exhaust, paint correction and dent removal, brake upgrade, remap, new TMIC, bolt in cage, front and rear strut brace, carbon door cards and an interior re-trim. Maybe a few other LITTLE bits and pieces.
Option 2:
Full 2.1 forged stroker engine with upgraded turbo and ancills, running at 400 bhp, with everything else on hold.
Now, the dilema I have is that over the next few months, I could put past some of my measly army wages into the kitty, so if option 1 gets it, bit by bit each month. If option 2 gets it, I lose the car for a while and possibly pay out more over the months.
I have already emailed the 'main places' like API,RCM,Scooby Projects, Scooby Clinic and Scoobyworld, but all your advice is great.
Hope to get the decision made soon!
Thanks in advance for the help,
Kris
09 August 2010, 06:17 PM
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in your place, i did the following:
upgraded my brakes, fmic, new turbo (VF34), transmission from new age STI, new filter, exhaust and remap. This will give you the power you seek and i can guarantee that you will think you have a new scooby in your hands!
Then later on, as you will get used to the extra power, change the internals, the injectors and the turbo and you will have your 400bhp with no rush and safely.
Between the 2, you will find some cash for minor changes like strut bars and interior improvement
upgraded my brakes, fmic, new turbo (VF34), transmission from new age STI, new filter, exhaust and remap. This will give you the power you seek and i can guarantee that you will think you have a new scooby in your hands!
Then later on, as you will get used to the extra power, change the internals, the injectors and the turbo and you will have your 400bhp with no rush and safely.
Between the 2, you will find some cash for minor changes like strut bars and interior improvement
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09 August 2010, 06:21 PM
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in your place, i did the following:
upgraded my brakes, fmic, new turbo (VF34), transmission from new age STI, new filter, exhaust and remap. This will give you the power you seek and i can guarantee that you will think you have a new scooby in your hands!
Then later on, as you will get used to the extra power, change the internals, the injectors and the turbo and you will have your 400bhp with no rush and safely.
Between the 2, you will find some cash for minor changes like strut bars and interior improvement
upgraded my brakes, fmic, new turbo (VF34), transmission from new age STI, new filter, exhaust and remap. This will give you the power you seek and i can guarantee that you will think you have a new scooby in your hands!
Then later on, as you will get used to the extra power, change the internals, the injectors and the turbo and you will have your 400bhp with no rush and safely.
Between the 2, you will find some cash for minor changes like strut bars and interior improvement
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If those two options are the only cards on the table, then option 1 takes it. However, I would ask some questions, relating to the use you're going to put it to. In particular is this a roadcar or a track toy, or somewhere between the two?
I refer in particular to the bolt-in roll cage and the carbon door trims. If you're short of cash, the carbon trims seem to be largely cosmetic (albeit with a bit of weight reduction). Ditto the re-trim is something you can do as and when. In addition, if this is a road car, there is no need at all for the roll cage, you will be better/safer without it. If you don't pay for and fit one, that's money you could spend on a new turbo now, ahead of the remap, for example.
If you're building a track car, then I can see the rationale behind the cage, but, if that's the way you're going, why the need for the re-trim when you could just strip it out?
If you can give some more info on the path you want to take with the car, it'll be easier to give you specific advice.
I refer in particular to the bolt-in roll cage and the carbon door trims. If you're short of cash, the carbon trims seem to be largely cosmetic (albeit with a bit of weight reduction). Ditto the re-trim is something you can do as and when. In addition, if this is a road car, there is no need at all for the roll cage, you will be better/safer without it. If you don't pay for and fit one, that's money you could spend on a new turbo now, ahead of the remap, for example.
If you're building a track car, then I can see the rationale behind the cage, but, if that's the way you're going, why the need for the re-trim when you could just strip it out?
If you can give some more info on the path you want to take with the car, it'll be easier to give you specific advice.
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If those two options are the only cards on the table, then option 1 takes it. However, I would ask some questions, relating to the use you're going to put it to. In particular is this a roadcar or a track toy, or somewhere between the two?
I refer in particular to the bolt-in roll cage and the carbon door trims. If you're short of cash, the carbon trims seem to be largely cosmetic (albeit with a bit of weight reduction). Ditto the re-trim is something you can do as and when. In addition, if this is a road car, there is no need at all for the roll cage, you will be better/safer without it. If you don't pay for and fit one, that's money you could spend on a new turbo now, ahead of the remap, for example.
If you're building a track car, then I can see the rationale behind the cage, but, if that's the way you're going, why the need for the re-trim when you could just strip it out?
If you can give some more info on the path you want to take with the car, it'll be easier to give you specific advice.
I refer in particular to the bolt-in roll cage and the carbon door trims. If you're short of cash, the carbon trims seem to be largely cosmetic (albeit with a bit of weight reduction). Ditto the re-trim is something you can do as and when. In addition, if this is a road car, there is no need at all for the roll cage, you will be better/safer without it. If you don't pay for and fit one, that's money you could spend on a new turbo now, ahead of the remap, for example.
If you're building a track car, then I can see the rationale behind the cage, but, if that's the way you're going, why the need for the re-trim when you could just strip it out?
If you can give some more info on the path you want to take with the car, it'll be easier to give you specific advice.
Splitpin, again, legend! Ok, It would be primaraly a road car, with the possibility of occasional track runs (maybe) I could live without the roll cage, carbon door cards, just a bit of both. To be honest, I'd like to keep it subtle, but have it really, really smart. And with more grunt to go, the ONLY downside is the cost. As I said before, my wages barely cover what I need to do to her, let alone what i want to do.
If I can get the parts to give me more power without wrecking the engine, but have it looking nicer, then I would be onto a winner.
The original engine has now covered 109000 miles, and still runs 99.9% good. Thats where my dilema lies beneath the bonnet.
Many thanks mate.
Kris
09 August 2010, 07:42 PM
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Option one
Leave the cage and door cards out for the time being
On a budget -
My tweaked option I list
Coilovers BC - BR
Rear 22mm ARB
Front and rear drop links
brake upgrade - Ian Godney 335mm refurbed subaru 4 pots (need 17in wheels)
New exhaust - Decat
New TMIC - Sti8 ?
Green Air Filter
440 injectors
VF28 Turbo (cheaper than VF34) about 200ish
Walbro 225 fuel pump
Remap for about 300-310hp ish.
(You probably might get a fair bit more out of it - but it becomes a bit more hit and miss with your current internals and also your gearbox after this)
Interior re-trim
paint correction and dent removal,
Leave the cage and door cards out for the time being
On a budget -
My tweaked option I list
Coilovers BC - BR
Rear 22mm ARB
Front and rear drop links
brake upgrade - Ian Godney 335mm refurbed subaru 4 pots (need 17in wheels)
New exhaust - Decat
New TMIC - Sti8 ?
Green Air Filter
440 injectors
VF28 Turbo (cheaper than VF34) about 200ish
Walbro 225 fuel pump
Remap for about 300-310hp ish.
(You probably might get a fair bit more out of it - but it becomes a bit more hit and miss with your current internals and also your gearbox after this)
Interior re-trim
paint correction and dent removal,
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09 August 2010, 07:47 PM
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Personally I would do something similar to option 1:
Option 1:
Coilovers, new exhaust, paint correction and dent removal,
brake upgrade, remap, new TMIC,bolt in cage, front and rear strut brace,
carbon door cards and an interior re-trim ARB's, FPR, Maybe a few other LITTLE bits and pieces.
I'd leave the cage out and re trim but thats just a personal preference.
Brakes, suspension, a few ne wngine components and a re-map will transform the car into a pretty useful tool.
Option 1:
Coilovers, new exhaust, paint correction and dent removal,
brake upgrade, remap, new TMIC,
carbon door cards and an interior re-trim ARB's, FPR, Maybe a few other LITTLE bits and pieces.
I'd leave the cage out and re trim but thats just a personal preference.
Brakes, suspension, a few ne wngine components and a re-map will transform the car into a pretty useful tool.
09 August 2010, 08:44 PM
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Thanks to everyone so far for the tips and advice.
Next then, Im going to ask for some sources and prices for these items.
440cc injectors
VF28/VF34 Turbo
Walbro 225 fuel pump
Coilovers BC - BR
Rear 22mm ARB
Front and rear drop links
TMIC
Remap
New/Refurb Transmission
The exhaust, I have a good idea what im after, brakes wise, still not sure yet. Its on 17's that I bought from here last year. Is there anything else i've missed? If so, let me know, thanks again,
Kris
Next then, Im going to ask for some sources and prices for these items.
440cc injectors
VF28/VF34 Turbo
Walbro 225 fuel pump
Coilovers BC - BR
Rear 22mm ARB
Front and rear drop links
TMIC
Remap
New/Refurb Transmission
The exhaust, I have a good idea what im after, brakes wise, still not sure yet. Its on 17's that I bought from here last year. Is there anything else i've missed? If so, let me know, thanks again,
Kris
09 August 2010, 08:56 PM
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OK ballparkish on a budget to give you an idea
Coilovers BC - BR - 650ish NEW
Rear 22mm ARB - 120ish NEW
Front and rear drop links - 150ish NEW
brake upgrade - Ian Godney 335mm refurbed subaru 4 pots (need 17in wheels) - 800ish NEW
(I can´t speak for Ian but it will be in that ball park)
1,720
New exhaust - Decat - 250ish SECOND HAND
New TMIC - Sti Blobeye 150ish SECOND HAND
Green Air Filter - 50ish NEW
440 injectors - 100ish SECONDHAND may be able to get a better price, worth perhaps getting new ones - add 200
VF28 Turbo (cheaper than VF34) about - 200ish SECOND HAND
Walbro 225 fuel pump - 90ish NEW
Remap for about 300-310hp ish. 150ish
990
2,710
+ 10% contingency
3,000
Obviously you may be able to get some parts cheaper second hand
Injectors, filter, fuel pump prob go for new items.
No vat added
Steve
Coilovers BC - BR - 650ish NEW
Rear 22mm ARB - 120ish NEW
Front and rear drop links - 150ish NEW
brake upgrade - Ian Godney 335mm refurbed subaru 4 pots (need 17in wheels) - 800ish NEW
(I can´t speak for Ian but it will be in that ball park)
1,720
New exhaust - Decat - 250ish SECOND HAND
New TMIC - Sti Blobeye 150ish SECOND HAND
Green Air Filter - 50ish NEW
440 injectors - 100ish SECONDHAND may be able to get a better price, worth perhaps getting new ones - add 200
VF28 Turbo (cheaper than VF34) about - 200ish SECOND HAND
Walbro 225 fuel pump - 90ish NEW
Remap for about 300-310hp ish. 150ish
990
2,710
+ 10% contingency
3,000
Obviously you may be able to get some parts cheaper second hand
Injectors, filter, fuel pump prob go for new items.
No vat added
Steve
Last edited by Steve Whitehorn; 11 August 2010 at 11:19 AM.
09 August 2010, 09:14 PM
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No probs
Think hard about what you want to do long term with the car.
If you eventually want bigger and bigger power. Perhaps leave the power upgrade and eventualy get mods that will support bigger power. Such as say for example a Hybrid Front Mount Intercooler from Harvey. or say 550 or 740 injectors.
I would scan the for sale section like a hawk
Think hard about what you want to do long term with the car.
If you eventually want bigger and bigger power. Perhaps leave the power upgrade and eventualy get mods that will support bigger power. Such as say for example a Hybrid Front Mount Intercooler from Harvey. or say 550 or 740 injectors.
I would scan the for sale section like a hawk
09 August 2010, 09:27 PM
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Steve, I scan almost every section regularly, looking for parts, but most of the time, when I find them, I cant get the cash!
I might go down the route of most of the parts you suggested, but go for bigger injectors and intercooler, would still prefer a Top mount though. Im going to have a word with my local garage tomorrow see what I can 'sort' with him, there good, and specialise in performance cars.
Fingers crossed, and let the hunt begin!!!
I might go down the route of most of the parts you suggested, but go for bigger injectors and intercooler, would still prefer a Top mount though. Im going to have a word with my local garage tomorrow see what I can 'sort' with him, there good, and specialise in performance cars.
Fingers crossed, and let the hunt begin!!!
09 August 2010, 09:49 PM
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Sti blobeye (8) intercooler is good ...but eventually has its limitations.
(there are many ways to skin a cat - Andy Forrest runs big power on top mounts)
(read intercooler thread in pool of knowledge)
Front mount is overkill often at 300hp ish
Dont go too big on injectors as they may struggle low down if the other mods are not up to it.
Best thing to do is to spec out the part list - such as say you above have a realistic figure say 300hp. Amass them all slowly but surely - put them all on in one hit and get it mapped all in one hit.
Steve
(there are many ways to skin a cat - Andy Forrest runs big power on top mounts)
(read intercooler thread in pool of knowledge)
Front mount is overkill often at 300hp ish
Dont go too big on injectors as they may struggle low down if the other mods are not up to it.
Best thing to do is to spec out the part list - such as say you above have a realistic figure say 300hp. Amass them all slowly but surely - put them all on in one hit and get it mapped all in one hit.
Steve
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Many thanks again for all the advice, and it looks like this so far:
VF34 turbo (second hand)
440 Yellow injectors (new)
TMIC (new)
Tein coilovers (second hand)
ARBs and Drop links (new)
Walbro pump (new)
Exhaust system (second hand?)
Newage transmission (second hand)
New panel filter
Remap
I think thats my realistic option, so fingers crossed by christmas i'll be running (hopefully) between 300-325 bhp.
Forgot to add before, if you or anyone you know will or is getting rid of ANY of these parts, can you either let me know via here or PM me please. All help will be greatly appreciated, Thanks again
Kris
VF34 turbo (second hand)
440 Yellow injectors (new)
TMIC (new)
Tein coilovers (second hand)
ARBs and Drop links (new)
Walbro pump (new)
Exhaust system (second hand?)
Newage transmission (second hand)
New panel filter
Remap
I think thats my realistic option, so fingers crossed by christmas i'll be running (hopefully) between 300-325 bhp.
Forgot to add before, if you or anyone you know will or is getting rid of ANY of these parts, can you either let me know via here or PM me please. All help will be greatly appreciated, Thanks again
Kris
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10 August 2010, 10:40 AM
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OK ballparkish on a budget to give you an idea
Coilovers BC - BR - 650ish NEW
Rear 22mm ARB - 120ish NEW
Front and rear drop links - 150ish NEW
brake upgrade - Ian Godney 335mm refurbed subaru 4 pots (need 17in wheels) - 800ish NEW
(I can´t speak for Ian but it will be in that ball park)
1,720
New exhaust - Decat - 250ish SECOND HAND
New TMIC - Sti Blobeye 150ish SECOND HAND
Green Air Filter - 50ish NEW
440 injectors - 100ish SECONDHAND may be able to get a better price, worth perhaps getting new ones - add 200
VF28 Turbo (cheaper than VF34) about - 200ish SECOND HAND
Walbor 225 fuel pump - 90ish NEW
Remap for about 300-310hp ish. 150ish
990
2,710
+ 10% contingency
3,000
Obviously you may be able to get some parts cheaper second hand
Injectors, filter, fuel pump prob go for new items.
No vat added
Steve
Coilovers BC - BR - 650ish NEW
Rear 22mm ARB - 120ish NEW
Front and rear drop links - 150ish NEW
brake upgrade - Ian Godney 335mm refurbed subaru 4 pots (need 17in wheels) - 800ish NEW
(I can´t speak for Ian but it will be in that ball park)
1,720
New exhaust - Decat - 250ish SECOND HAND
New TMIC - Sti Blobeye 150ish SECOND HAND
Green Air Filter - 50ish NEW
440 injectors - 100ish SECONDHAND may be able to get a better price, worth perhaps getting new ones - add 200
VF28 Turbo (cheaper than VF34) about - 200ish SECOND HAND
Walbor 225 fuel pump - 90ish NEW
Remap for about 300-310hp ish. 150ish
990
2,710
+ 10% contingency
3,000
Obviously you may be able to get some parts cheaper second hand
Injectors, filter, fuel pump prob go for new items.
No vat added
Steve
Here are some your mapping options
(other good mappers are available)
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10 August 2010, 01:09 PM
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While you're at it add some caster adjustable top mounts to the BCs - about £50 and lets you dial in some 'anti-lift', reduces the power understeer a treat and is cheaper than a whitelines/perrins anti-lift kits.
If budgets tight go with steel drop links, instead of alloy. Marginally less stiff, but about half the price.
Green filter might be unnecessary, I do run one, but tests here have shown theres very little difference.
See if you can get braided brake lines and an ebay cheapy quick shift all helps driver feel.
If budgets tight go with steel drop links, instead of alloy. Marginally less stiff, but about half the price.
Green filter might be unnecessary, I do run one, but tests here have shown theres very little difference.
See if you can get braided brake lines and an ebay cheapy quick shift all helps driver feel.
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Ok, after most of the day searching, i've finally decided on the route and parts to get. All I have to think bout now is where to buy some of them from, so if you know or can suggest to me, that would be great.
ENGINE
VF34 turbo
440 Yellow injectors - Lateral
TMIC - Harvey
Walbro pump - Lateral
Exhaust system - Cobra/Japspeed
Newage transmission
New panel filter - HKS or Green
Remap - Jolly Green Monster
CHASSIS
Tein coilovers -
ARB -
Drop Links -
Front and rear strut brace -
BRAKES
Grooved discs
Mintex performance pads
Caliper refurb (front)
Rear Caliper upgrade
Braided brake hoses
BODY
Dent removal and paint correction
Finish colour coding rear spats
New Front Splitter
Crystal side lights
INTERIOR
Carbon door cards all round - TEG sport
Flocked dash, roof lining and all pillars - tingtong pj
Centre pod and guages - Prosport
HKS turbo timer
Replacement led's for clocks
Hopefully I havent missed anything out, and I will be aiming for 330 ish bhp. And I need to complete this by christmas. So the next few months will be tight but, Im going to do it, and will post a thread when I start to keep you all informed of my progress.
Feel free to add suppliers you know can do the parts ive left blank, thanks everyone,
Kris
ENGINE
VF34 turbo
440 Yellow injectors - Lateral
TMIC - Harvey
Walbro pump - Lateral
Exhaust system - Cobra/Japspeed
Newage transmission
New panel filter - HKS or Green
Remap - Jolly Green Monster
CHASSIS
Tein coilovers -
ARB -
Drop Links -
Front and rear strut brace -
BRAKES
Grooved discs
Mintex performance pads
Caliper refurb (front)
Rear Caliper upgrade
Braided brake hoses
BODY
Dent removal and paint correction
Finish colour coding rear spats
New Front Splitter
Crystal side lights
INTERIOR
Carbon door cards all round - TEG sport
Flocked dash, roof lining and all pillars - tingtong pj
Centre pod and guages - Prosport
HKS turbo timer
Replacement led's for clocks
Hopefully I havent missed anything out, and I will be aiming for 330 ish bhp. And I need to complete this by christmas. So the next few months will be tight but, Im going to do it, and will post a thread when I start to keep you all informed of my progress.
Feel free to add suppliers you know can do the parts ive left blank, thanks everyone,
Kris
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my 99 runs 300 mods are full decat, td05 16g turbo, fpr, 255 fuel pump, apexi ecu, exedy racing clutch (standard went very soon after upgrading power!) full jgm remap! standard airbox with hks filter, standard top mount!
the difference is so great from 214 to 300 you wouldnt believe it!
would be much cheaper than going all out for 400bhp and you will probably be very surprised!
the difference is so great from 214 to 300 you wouldnt believe it!
would be much cheaper than going all out for 400bhp and you will probably be very surprised!