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Old 06 July 2010, 04:20 PM
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Hello, joined up because am looking to buy a Subaru and thought this forum would be a good place to get advice, am looking at buying this Impreza but got a few questions about it is it a real RA? and why is the engine stronger?

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Old 06 July 2010, 04:27 PM
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It could be a WRX RA but you would need to check the chassis code to be 100% sure, then the rest is total bs with the exception of the close ratio gearbox, the engine is no stronger than any other car of its year, its the same block, same internals etc, no difference, and the power is no where near 280bhp (no subaru had 280bhp out of the factory, 280ps but those were version 3 STI's onwards), the power output of this car is 237bhp or 240ps on 97 ron fuel (if they have ever used 95 ron fuel, walk away, could hold some nasty surprises caused by prolonged det )

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Old 06 July 2010, 04:34 PM
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Can do better at that money.
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Yes it does look like an RA, no rear wiper, black door handles, aerial on A pillar and i can see the water spary switch, so chances are it is.

oh and it has a 3.9 diff not 4.4 like he says in the ad.

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Here are the applied model codes, god that guy is coming out with some bs lol
http://www.scoobypedia.co.uk/index.p...ProductionRuns
Only the STI's had a 5th injector (its not used btw, not even attached), ic water spray (though it can be retro fitted but you get auto and manual on a "real STI RA" nothing on a wrx).

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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
Only the STI's had a 5th injector (its not used btw, not even attached), ic water spray (though it can be retro fitted but you get auto and manual on a "real STI RA" nothing on a wrx).

Tony
No, WRX RA's also has the 5th injector and the auto W/S was on V3-on, V1-V2 only had manual.

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Originally Posted by jayallen
No, WRX RA's also has the 5th injector and the auto W/S was on V3-on, V1-V2 only had manual.
Ah, yes your right on the 5th injector, tired still, just out of bed after nights though he seems to make a lot about it, shame its not even connected, just there for homoglomation purposes, though didnt know about the ic spray, I know it was standard on the STI RA along with the option of the dccd gearbox.

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Originally Posted by TonyBurns
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It could be a WRX RA but you would need to check the chassis code to be 100% sure, then the rest is total bs with the exception of the close ratio gearbox, the engine is no stronger than any other car of its year, its the same block, same internals etc, no difference, and the power is no where near 280bhp (no subaru had 280bhp out of the factory, 280ps but those were version 3 STI's onwards), the power output of this car is 237bhp or 240ps on 97 ron fuel (if they have ever used 95 ron fuel, walk away, could hold some nasty surprises caused by prolonged det )

Tony
Thanks for the welcome am a bit confussed now lol, is a closed deck block engine no stronger than a normal WRX engine? are you sure its the same block on the RA?

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Originally Posted by 53WRX
Can do better at that money.
What should i offer him then mate? would the service with cambelt change, 4 new tires not add value? how much would all that set me back if i was to buy a cheaper one?

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IMO it looks a bit manky considering the price. You can get good to full history MY99/00 UK cars for that money. If your determined to go for an import then an import around 98 would be a good idea if you intend to mod it - its kind of the one know one wants but for no real reason why not.
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Originally Posted by EddScott
IMO it looks a bit manky considering the price. You can get good to full history MY99/00 UK cars for that money. If your determined to go for an import then an import around 98 would be a good idea if you intend to mod it - its kind of the one know one wants but for no real reason why not.

Manky? it will be like new after a full respray surly can i get a 98 RA for £2500 and do they have a closed deck block too?
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Default reg type ra

dident all type ra's come with a roof vent? ra meaning race alterd
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Originally Posted by bulbsubaru
dident all type ra's come with a roof vent? ra meaning race alterd
No. Only Sti RA had the roof vent. Not wrx RA.
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The RA's were also the cheapest models in the range LOL

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Originally Posted by Vader9
Thanks for the welcome am a bit confussed now lol, is a closed deck block engine no stronger than a normal WRX engine? are you sure its the same block on the RA?
The block is as strong as the standard internals, which are not that strong, if your going for 700+bhp then its the strongest block to use (well with the exception to the 2.2cdb), otherwise its all pub talk, a standard 2ltr cdb with standard crap internals is weaker than a built open block with fully forged internals running 400+bhp, no point in boasting about your block if its got a hole in it

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Originally Posted by Vader9
Manky? it will be like new after a full respray surly can i get a 98 RA for £2500 and do they have a closed deck block too?
It will be an open deck block but probably a better car due to the advancements they made over the last 5 years from 93-98.

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Thanks Tony .....am going to look at it tomorrow, cant wait
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The ra is a very light and nimble car if you wanted a point to point car, short straights and tight bends then it is perfect 1st 2nd 3rd and 4th are very close and you can be very quick through the box 0 to 85 is very quick and you would always be in boost coming out of the bends , 5th is longer but still low compared to other impreza's .sti ra you would benefit from a dccd center diff and a bit longer gears so better for main roads and motorways , if you want a car or long distance then a uk spec car would be better .
Good luck with your choice , Shonner.
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Originally Posted by shonner
The ra is a very light and nimble car if you wanted a point to point car, short straights and tight bends then it is perfect 1st 2nd 3rd and 4th are very close and you can be very quick through the box 0 to 85 is very quick and you would always be in boost coming out of the bends , 5th is longer but still low compared to other impreza's .sti ra you would benefit from a dccd center diff and a bit longer gears so better for main roads and motorways , if you want a car or long distance then a uk spec car would be better .
Good luck with your choice , Shonner.
Thanks for the info shonner am even more excited now if its as good as it looks in them pics and looks like a gen 80000 mile car i will offer him £2500 and see what he says, love the white classics and dont see many of them about esp th RA's, dont think ive ever seen one on the road

Hopefully i will be a fellow scooby owner tomorrow afternoon like you fine boys and girls

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some model codes


93-94 Sti RA GC8B47D 250 first STi Modified from production WRX
94-96 Sti RA V3 GC8C4DD 275 First full production STi RA

92-93 WRX V1 RA GC8A47D 240 4 door
93-94 WRX V2 RA GC8B47D 260 4 door
94-96 WRX V3 RA V1 GC8C47D 260

BTW there were two years of "C" year code one being C1 94-95 & C2 95-96 but cant tell by the plate

IIRC

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Originally Posted by T5NYW
some model codes

93-94 Sti RA GC8B47D 250 4 door Modified from production WRX
94-95 Sti RA GC8C47D 275 4 door Modified from production WRX
95-96 Sti RA V3 GC8D4DD 275 First full production STi RA

92-93 WRX V1 RA GC8A47D 240 4 door
93-94 WRX V2 RA GC8B47D 260 4 door
94-95 WRX V3 RA V1 GC8C47D 260

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Thanks mate, that will come in handy
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Originally Posted by Vader9
Thanks mate, that will come in handy
I have edited it as was not correct due C year code C1 & C2 year quirk such an ****



93-94 Sti RA GC8B47D 250 first STi Modified from production WRX
94-96 Sti RA V3 GC8C4DD 275 First full production STi RA

92-93 WRX V1 RA GC8A47D 240 4 door
93-94 WRX V2 RA GC8B47D 260 4 door
94-96 WRX V3 RA GC8C47D 260
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www.type-ra.co.uk .....
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Where is Simon when you need him?

It's MY93, which I'm certain doesn't have 280bhp, so its output is incorrectly advertised for starters. I'm pretty sure its 240ps.

This is backed by the fact my old MY97 UK (standard, but as per most UK spec cars, it rollers around 240bhp on 95RON) can keep up with one in a straight line drag as recently proven a few months back, despite the shorter gearing. So it most certainly does not leave other Imprezas in the dust (in standard trim, at least).

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Originally Posted by T5NYW
I have edited it as was not correct due C year code C1 & C2 year quirk such an ****



93-94 Sti RA GC8B47D 250 first STi Modified from production WRX
94-96 Sti RA V3 GC8C4DD 275 First full production STi RA

92-93 WRX V1 RA GC8A47D 240 4 door
93-94 WRX V2 RA GC8B47D 260 4 door
94-96 WRX V3 RA GC8C47D 260
Ive just asked him for a model and vin number he says the model code is GC8A47D so looks like its the real deal, thanks for your help

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This will come in very handy my good man, thanks
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Seeing as we'r on the subject, the one below looks like a Ver5 1999 Type R Vltd not a WRC Ltd (Ver 6 /MY 2000) as stated in advert:

http://www.pistonheads.com/sales/1838495.htm
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Originally Posted by ALi-B
Where is Simon when you need him?

It's MY93, which I'm certain doesn't have 280bhp, so its output is incorrectly advertised for starters. I'm pretty sure its 240ps.

This is backed by the fact my old MY97 UK (standard, but as per most UK spec cars, it rollers around 240bhp on 95RON) can keep up with one in a straight line drag as recently proven a few months back, despite the shorter gearing. So it most certainly does not leave other Imprezas in the dust (in standard trim, at least).
If i buy it i will get it on the rollers and see whats what, he said he's got a power run grath showing 283bhp from 9mths ago so will have a good look at that, it might be chipped and he doesnt know about it if standard is only 240-250 with exhaust, am sure what ever its putting out will feel fast to me ......for the time being anyway

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I've not read the advert but the car may of been modified slightly & remapped, but I think 280bhp is unlikely though from a 93 car.

If you do a lot of motorway miles i'd give it a miss as the short ratio's are quite harsh on the earlier RA's. Probably about 4000-4500rpm at 70 on the motorway. But if you only want it for short sprints then a RA would be a good choice

Good-Luck if you decide to buy it
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Should be approx 240 if it's a 93. 280 is easy with a chipped ecu, filter, exhaust etc. Seems a bit pricy for a 93, I paid £2300 for mine 5 years ago, totally standard and untouched. Keep your options open there are pleny of nice cars to choose from around that price.


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