Gooch

Hi, Ive got a 2001 classic Subaru sport with a full WRX STi kit on it, been looking around on the web and spotted a 1992 Ford Sierra with a cossy 2.9 24v v6 engine ... Im only 19 and my insurance for the Subaru is jus under £1000, The Sierra comes in around the same (Reg as a 1800) ... Would it be worth selling the Subaru for the Sierra? Ive still got a Year and a bit till Im 21 so Ive no chance of a proper WRX untill at least then? Thoughts appriciated guys .. Cheers!!

scooby L

Sierra with a Scorpio 24v lump?

interesting... does the gearing work?

What was the base Sierra? You need to check the breaks etc are up to the extra power

Flaps

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That's put me straight off. Surely you'd just be throwing your insurance money down the drain if there was a problem?

T5BNC

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Spot on Flaps, that would be deemed as material non-disclosure. and all claims get filed under B1n.. Not worth it imho

Gooch

Based on an 1800 Saph .. I know people say I wouldnt do it as Insurance would be void etc .. But I must admit I am seriously tempted .. Brakes etc all off a Sierra Cosworth so yes they would be able to handle the power! Just really looking for something quicker to be honest and I dont have the money to get a conversion done on my sport!! Looks the part too!

DAC

Hi mate - leave the Sierra

if you want more punch for your £$

get a Saab turbo

either 9-3 185bhp or 9-3 Aero (210bhp)

or even a 9-5 aero 230bhp


should be a newer car for your money - better reliability and cheaper insurance (dont let the old man image put you off - they are quicker than alot of performance cars (especially through the gears once rolling)

jonny_693

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I can think of a 100 cars for a 19 year old to own and niether of those are in the list The birds would run a mile.

If you want more poke forget the sierra with void insurance, buy yourself a hot hatch.

Ste98Turbo

For the time being you would be better off with something like a Pug 205 1.9GTI or the 1.6 if its too dear to insure for you, the 1.9 hits 60mph in the high 7sec standard so will be the same as what your going to buy but the pug will be cheaper to run and handles alot better

I had a saph cossie rep when is was 20 then a real cossie at 23 and now moved onto my 3rd scoob at 34 ......do miss the old 4x4 cossie though

matt2000

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Not just engine transplant, cossie brakes count as a modification. How about starlet gt turbo or charade gtti (if you canfind a decentone) or Suzuki swift gti. At your age you want to declare all mods and build up your no claims. If you're not declaring mods and have an accident you're in the ****. All details will be logged and any future quotes will be considerably higher.

xtremewheels

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You can get insurance on a Subaru at any age, depends how much your willing to pay for one, either that or run the risk regarding an unregistered engine conversion.

Had my first WRX import at 19, had a V3 sti at 20 and I'm on a Type R at 21 now. So it can be done, at 21 with 3 yrs ncb, 2 years in subaru's my insurance is £1600 fully comp. Still alot, but for the car and my age it's nothing.

Gooch

Was looking at the Glanza's i do like them! .. Already had a VTS so dont really fancy another french car! Dont get me wrong I love my Scoob still turns heads everywhere I go just like I say fancy something with a bit more grunt. £1600 for Type R at 21?? And a WRX at 19 .. Who do you get your insurance from xtremewheels?

xtremewheels

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Hello mate, the insurance for the Type R is with admrial. Got a quote online for £2042 so we rang them up and after 30mins we had it down to £1600.
I paid £2500 at 19, but after a year in a car that's classed as 'high performance' it reduced to £1500 so I upgraded to the V3 at this point.
Multi car is a good way forward with admrial at a young age, may be worth trying your luck?

Glanza's are good cars, was looking at them myself when my V3's engine went last year. Also had a VTR and agree wouldn't go back to something French!

Regards

Jamie

GMballistic

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Gooch whatever you do stay legal insurance wise cause you'll hurt yourself & others if anything went wrong which is TBH more likely at your age IMO.
What about a (89-96 best years to go for) Toyota Starlet GT Turbo? they can be tuned up quite nicely & insurance isn't that high on them. Goodluck with the hunt

ollyit

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seriously mate, non disclosure of the sierras true power plant, is as good as not having an insurance what so ever, if you where to kill someone even non fault you wouldnt have a a leg to stand on,

I know its tempting, wait a few years, I got my first scooby at 28, as the insurance was a joke - its worth it

oadamo

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no.
adam

austinwrx

might be 1800 cc on a bent mot.

what are you going to do when you have to mot it and it comes up as a 2.9 instead
and serial no's don't match.

no no no.

Steve001

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all depends on your buget really..................

you could go a little earlier (years wise and retro which is becoming quite cool at the moment) how about a well sorted mk2 escort? mexico or an rs2000 if you can find one

low classic insurance no road tax and bags of tail out fun

ramboscooby

get a starlet gt turbo the ep82 tho i had one when i was 19 cost me 600 fully comp mods declared it was running 190bhp but weighing 800kg a very rapid car indeed

nick172sport

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had two mk2 mexicos thinking off gettin rid off the scoob go back to my youth days again and buy another

tweaks

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i had a civic eg6 vti at your age was a brilliant car,never went wrong

type-ellis

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I agree with tweaks, the civic vti is great fun and a very quick little car for a 1.6. You say you want something with a bit more grunt? Why not try insurance on a prelude 2.2 vtec. They go well and with a few mods you will be well above 200bhp. Saying that tho, with a 4 branch, good induction kit, set of teg type r cams the civic vti can be pulled close to 200bhp aswell.

KAS35RSTI

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A UK spec classic would be a good choice.

SunnySideUp

The Sierra is a definate NO - not only will the Insurance be voided, you will be blacklisted by the Insurance Industry and never touched again ..... you wouldn't be able to get cover on a Dinky Toy!!

Wait awhile and stay the right side of the Insurance (I assume yours knows that your Sport is done up like a STi?) I hope so!!

2 years will go so quickly ... save your pennies and have something to look forward to ..

D7AKE

I have a 2wd Cosworth and a Scooby lol

Steve001

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every time i see them at classic car shows the thought does cross my mind also

johnlogie

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Id love a nice mk2 Escort but have you seen the price the decent ones go for?
They are now a feckin fortune

Steve001

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i did say it was budget dependant



10-12K gets you a good original mexico or rs2000

M444GY

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keep the scoob imo

incarsolutions

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i built a 2.9 cossie saph a few years ago, changed the logbook to the new engine, made it a complete cossie rep down to the carpet inside, all mods declared and it increased my premium by £80 per year! as they were only interested in the power increase percentage from standard (it started as a 2.0 twin cam on a carb). i was 24 at the time, fantastic car with the right gearbox but its expensive to make them go faster.