engine re builds £??
28 January 2010, 11:57 AM
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Depends on what spec you want to put it back to and what went on it in the first place.
give a few of the tuners on here a call me perosnaly i would pop david at API a call run it over with him. if you start looking to rebuild the 2.0ltr to run bigger power then most would suggest popping in a 2.5ltr for the extra low down grunt and more tourqe but that depends on yor personal taste and driving style
give a few of the tuners a call and they will point you in the right direction
give a few of the tuners on here a call me perosnaly i would pop david at API a call run it over with him. if you start looking to rebuild the 2.0ltr to run bigger power then most would suggest popping in a 2.5ltr for the extra low down grunt and more tourqe but that depends on yor personal taste and driving style
give a few of the tuners a call and they will point you in the right direction
28 January 2010, 12:11 PM
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I think it's a rebore of the 2-litre.
DO talk to David at API, he's an acknowledged expert, and honest too.
Be careful if you go for more power/torque, the classic box won't take a LOT of torque.
I've gone for a 2.5 bottom end, but have also opted for a 6-speed box.
DO talk to David at API, he's an acknowledged expert, and honest too.
Be careful if you go for more power/torque, the classic box won't take a LOT of torque.
I've gone for a 2.5 bottom end, but have also opted for a 6-speed box.
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28 January 2010, 12:19 PM
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Who does them for £1500? ive been thinking of getting mine overhauled with 90k on the clock before something goes wrong on it, just looking at std 93 Ra build, 270bhp is fast enough for an oldman like me 
28 January 2010, 12:30 PM
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Occasionally there are good used blocks around but they need a deal of machining anyway to create the right shape size for 2.33
2.1 works well and is relatively cheap to.
2.5 is similarly priced but the torque it generates will bust the gearbox.
Call me to talk the options through if you wish - no obligation.
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28 January 2010, 12:43 PM
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Do you know for sure it hasn't had a previous rebuild?
I actually had a rebuild on my old STi V back in early 2000's & it was over £3k then! Doubt they've gone down in price ...
28 January 2010, 01:39 PM
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£1500 will be absolute minimum, will exclude parts and probably from someone who doesn't rebuild them very often. The crank alone will set you back £400! I think API standard rebuilds are around the 3-4k mark plus vat. The engine maybe solid for many years to come but on a classic, that is almost the value of the car itself!
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28 January 2010, 01:46 PM
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£1500 will be absolute minimum, will exclude parts and probably from someone who doesn't rebuild them very often. The crank alone will set you back £400! I think API standard rebuilds are around the 3-4k mark plus vat. The engine maybe solid for many years to come but on a classic, that is almost the value of the car itself!
This is the only thing putting me off returning to the scooby owners club as I got bitten last time and I am still paying for it now!
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Since you ask.
BUT places like SMR will offer one at about 800...... Go look on the forums for their feedback and compare it to ours.
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28 January 2010, 02:12 PM
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I was quoted around 4k inc vat by you David for an sti3 rebuild around 3 years ago. Why the mighty drop in price??
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28 January 2010, 02:29 PM
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Chris, the STi 5 / 6 P1 engine build price was and always was £2500.00 + VAT [ £2937.50 inc ] Add in fitting at £550.00 + VAT [ £646.25.00 inc ]
Add in perhaps, a recovery cost, a clutch and light flywheel and ported headers and
4 g's soon comes up.
But an STi 5 / 6 / P1 has never cost more than £2500 + VAT for a standard build.
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Add in perhaps, a recovery cost, a clutch and light flywheel and ported headers and
4 g's soon comes up.
But an STi 5 / 6 / P1 has never cost more than £2500 + VAT for a standard build.
David
It is proving a little tricky, but we reckon it'll be a winner.
28 January 2010, 03:05 PM
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2.33, widely regarded as "the daddy" for big power builds is usually built using a EJ22t (2.2ltr) and stroked to 2.33/5. As these are quite rare now, 2ltr blocks can be linered as an alternative.
Original 2.33 EJ22T built blocks are still available, you just have to look in the right places
Original 2.33 EJ22T built blocks are still available, you just have to look in the right places
28 January 2010, 03:09 PM
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Easy with the sarcasm there David! I see your point but when I ask a garage for a rebuild price, I want a 'final' price that includes removal and fitting. 
Also, when people mention prices on here, I would imagine that most quoted include the removal and fitting service.
For me, it wouldn't be £2900 for a rebuild, it would be £3600.
I see your point but when I ask a garage for a rebuild price, I want a 'final' price that includes removal and fitting. Also, when people mention prices on here, I would imagine that most quoted include the removal and fitting service. For me, it wouldn't be £2900 for a rebuild, it would be £3600.
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28 January 2010, 03:37 PM
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2.33, widely regarded as "the daddy" for big power builds is usually built using a EJ22t (2.2ltr) and stroked to 2.33/5. As these are quite rare now, 2ltr blocks can be linered as an alternative.
Original 2.33 EJ22T built blocks are still available, you just have to look in the right places
Original 2.33 EJ22T built blocks are still available, you just have to look in the right places
So sell me one then.
28 January 2010, 03:39 PM
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Easy with the sarcasm there David! I see your point but when I ask a garage for a rebuild price, I want a 'final' price that includes removal and fitting. Also, when people mention prices on here, I would imagine that most quoted include the removal and fitting service.
For me, it wouldn't be £2900 for a rebuild, it would be £3600.
I see your point but when I ask a garage for a rebuild price, I want a 'final' price that includes removal and fitting. Also, when people mention prices on here, I would imagine that most quoted include the removal and fitting service. For me, it wouldn't be £2900 for a rebuild, it would be £3600.
No sarcasm intended, just seemed funny at the time; apologies.
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28 January 2010, 03:50 PM
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So you can get em " you just have to look in the right places " ,
but in fact can't get 'em......
Of course I'm asking about a bare block.
David
but in fact can't get 'em......
Of course I'm asking about a bare block.
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28 January 2010, 04:04 PM
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2.1 stroker all the way for me. Very good option for the cash.
The problem is where do you draw the line.
Oh look more cc, I'll have a turbo to go with that before my re-map...... oh dear, all this power I need bigger brakes, now I need a 6 box.....................
If I have a 6-speed I can go for a bigger turbo, now I need to upgrade the fuel system, swirl pot.... baffled sump............... And then you stop and realise how much you have spent.
Or is that just me LOL
The problem is where do you draw the line.
Oh look more cc, I'll have a turbo to go with that before my re-map...... oh dear, all this power I need bigger brakes, now I need a 6 box.....................
If I have a 6-speed I can go for a bigger turbo, now I need to upgrade the fuel system, swirl pot.... baffled sump............... And then you stop and realise how much you have spent.
Or is that just me LOL
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28 January 2010, 04:18 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB5'
I said: "Original 2.33 EJ22T built blocks are still available, you just have to look in the right places"
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