5 or 6 speed?
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5 or 6 speed?
which would be the fasted down a B road with lots of bends
a car with 6 speed
or a car with 5 speed (they have the same power)
when the max speed you could achieve because of the road would be 70 mph
a car with 6 speed
or a car with 5 speed (they have the same power)
when the max speed you could achieve because of the road would be 70 mph
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Had the 5 speed, uk 6 speed and now a jdm 6 speed
all classics with different levels of tune and I have to say the jdm box does it for me. The gearing is nice and short which some don't like as you have to keep going through the gears but I love it you feel right envolved with the car changing up and down. Personal opinion mate you will get mixed views on this but jdm gets my vote
all classics with different levels of tune and I have to say the jdm box does it for me. The gearing is nice and short which some don't like as you have to keep going through the gears but I love it you feel right envolved with the car changing up and down. Personal opinion mate you will get mixed views on this but jdm gets my vote
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I found the uk 5 speeds on the wrx/turbo not to be the best for this, its more of a cruising box, had trouble once with an M3 SMG, it went and I was struggling for the right gear, 4 was too much and 5 wasnt enough
Next car was a JDM twin scroll, you could jump gears in that and you had umph, but it had lots of torque which helped
Tony
Next car was a JDM twin scroll, you could jump gears in that and you had umph, but it had lots of torque which helped
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6MT Transmission
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th
3.636 2.375 1.761 1.346 1.062 0.842
5 SPEED
UK
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
3.454 1.947 1.366 0.972 0.738
JDM
WRX / STI
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
3.454 2.062 1.448 1.088 0.825
RA / LIMITED / 22B
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
3.083 2.062 1.545 1.151 0.825
the ra box with its short ratio is meant to be awsome (i have never tried) but out of the 5 speed uk, wrx and sti box i dpo say i prefer the 6 speed and out of the uk and jdm 6 speed the jdm wins for me, might be as i have a high power'd car but it is easy to find the right gear were for me on the 5 speed it seem to be missing an inbetween gear where sometimes you want to drop a gear it will rev to high and other you want to shift up but then revs drop to low but with a 6 speed it seems always right
just my two bits and i guess it is horses for courses but best thinkg to do is drive a few different cars to get a feel for it. i would suggest driving a 6 speed in a classic as that is what you will have it in to see if you like it
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th
3.636 2.375 1.761 1.346 1.062 0.842
5 SPEED
UK
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
3.454 1.947 1.366 0.972 0.738
JDM
WRX / STI
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
3.454 2.062 1.448 1.088 0.825
RA / LIMITED / 22B
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
3.083 2.062 1.545 1.151 0.825
the ra box with its short ratio is meant to be awsome (i have never tried) but out of the 5 speed uk, wrx and sti box i dpo say i prefer the 6 speed and out of the uk and jdm 6 speed the jdm wins for me, might be as i have a high power'd car but it is easy to find the right gear were for me on the 5 speed it seem to be missing an inbetween gear where sometimes you want to drop a gear it will rev to high and other you want to shift up but then revs drop to low but with a 6 speed it seems always right
just my two bits and i guess it is horses for courses but best thinkg to do is drive a few different cars to get a feel for it. i would suggest driving a 6 speed in a classic as that is what you will have it in to see if you like it
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6MT Transmission
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th
3.636 2.375 1.761 1.346 1.062 0.842
5 SPEED
UK
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
3.454 1.947 1.366 0.972 0.738
JDM
WRX / STI
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
3.454 2.062 1.448 1.088 0.825
RA / LIMITED / 22B
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
3.083 2.062 1.545 1.151 0.825
the ra box with its short ratio is meant to be awsome (i have never tried) but out of the 5 speed uk, wrx and sti box i dpo say i prefer the 6 speed and out of the uk and jdm 6 speed the jdm wins for me, might be as i have a high power'd car but it is easy to find the right gear were for me on the 5 speed it seem to be missing an inbetween gear where sometimes you want to drop a gear it will rev to high and other you want to shift up but then revs drop to low but with a 6 speed it seems always right
just my two bits and i guess it is horses for courses but best thinkg to do is drive a few different cars to get a feel for it. i would suggest driving a 6 speed in a classic as that is what you will have it in to see if you like it
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th
3.636 2.375 1.761 1.346 1.062 0.842
5 SPEED
UK
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
3.454 1.947 1.366 0.972 0.738
JDM
WRX / STI
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
3.454 2.062 1.448 1.088 0.825
RA / LIMITED / 22B
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th
3.083 2.062 1.545 1.151 0.825
the ra box with its short ratio is meant to be awsome (i have never tried) but out of the 5 speed uk, wrx and sti box i dpo say i prefer the 6 speed and out of the uk and jdm 6 speed the jdm wins for me, might be as i have a high power'd car but it is easy to find the right gear were for me on the 5 speed it seem to be missing an inbetween gear where sometimes you want to drop a gear it will rev to high and other you want to shift up but then revs drop to low but with a 6 speed it seems always right
just my two bits and i guess it is horses for courses but best thinkg to do is drive a few different cars to get a feel for it. i would suggest driving a 6 speed in a classic as that is what you will have it in to see if you like it
Also,the wrx and ra final drives are the same...is this right?
My old scoob lost 30mph top end when swapping between the 2 boxes.
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sorry that was a JDM 6 speed
the uk 6 speed is
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th
3.636 2.375 1.761 1.346 0.971 0.756
i could not confirm that they are right as this info has been poulled of the web.
here is the link
The SPDA - Transmission Chart
i would noit really go by what they and everyone say's as it will be the OP that has to drive and live with it everyday. for me the stories of how short the ra boxes are although on spirited driving i guess would be a hoot but as an everyday car doing long runs i think it would od my head in. and i have tried the other 4 and found the jdm box suits me just fine.
so again best thing to do is go and test them, there are plenty of members on here and some should be local a few beer tokens after the drive and i am sure a select few will let you try it for yourself
the uk 6 speed is
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th
3.636 2.375 1.761 1.346 0.971 0.756
i could not confirm that they are right as this info has been poulled of the web.
here is the link
The SPDA - Transmission Chart
i would noit really go by what they and everyone say's as it will be the OP that has to drive and live with it everyday. for me the stories of how short the ra boxes are although on spirited driving i guess would be a hoot but as an everyday car doing long runs i think it would od my head in. and i have tried the other 4 and found the jdm box suits me just fine.
so again best thing to do is go and test them, there are plenty of members on here and some should be local a few beer tokens after the drive and i am sure a select few will let you try it for yourself
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sorry that was a JDM 6 speed
the uk 6 speed is
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th
3.636 2.375 1.761 1.346 0.971 0.756
i could not confirm that they are right as this info has been poulled of the web.
here is the link
The SPDA - Transmission Chart
i would noit really go by what they and everyone say's as it will be the OP that has to drive and live with it everyday. for me the stories of how short the ra boxes are although on spirited driving i guess would be a hoot but as an everyday car doing long runs i think it would od my head in. and i have tried the other 4 and found the jdm box suits me just fine.
so again best thing to do is go and test them, there are plenty of members on here and some should be local a few beer tokens after the drive and i am sure a select few will let you try it for yourself
the uk 6 speed is
1st 2nd 3rd 4th 5th 6th
3.636 2.375 1.761 1.346 0.971 0.756
i could not confirm that they are right as this info has been poulled of the web.
here is the link
The SPDA - Transmission Chart
i would noit really go by what they and everyone say's as it will be the OP that has to drive and live with it everyday. for me the stories of how short the ra boxes are although on spirited driving i guess would be a hoot but as an everyday car doing long runs i think it would od my head in. and i have tried the other 4 and found the jdm box suits me just fine.
so again best thing to do is go and test them, there are plenty of members on here and some should be local a few beer tokens after the drive and i am sure a select few will let you try it for yourself
#28
The car with a 6MT transmission would be 30-40kg heavier and so it would accelerate fractionally slower.
In addition, if we're talking about cars being driven on the limit and standard road gearboxes, the 6MT would potentially lose out a little due to the need to make more gearchanges than the five speeder. Every time you're changing gear the car isn't being pushed forward so each one slows you down. Unless of course the powerband on the engine concerned was so narrow that you could get it off boost a lot of the time by using fewer, wider spaced gears.
Remember that Peugeot went from 6 to routinely running a five speed box on their Worldrallycars (and at one point a four) because the engine was flexible and tractable enough to work well over a wider speed range, and because the gearbox ended up simpler, stronger and more reliable as a result. And that's in a context where there was a very fast automated gearchange. More gears is not always better especially for the sort of driving you're talking about - especially when you've got to reach down to the gearstick and use the clutch every time.
Bottom line is that it's a very artificial question. I suspect the 5MT car would be the quicker, but there would be very little in it.
Last edited by Splitpin; 18 March 2010 at 08:20 PM.
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