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Old 20 January 2010, 10:45 AM
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Question Tesco 99 question

What's the difference between 7800:2000 an 7800?
My sti ppp runs alot quicker on the 7800:2000, is this one a higher octane?
Car hasn't been remapped by the way.
Old 20 January 2010, 12:20 PM
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Originally Posted by dazza80
What's the difference between 7800:2000 an 7800?
My sti ppp runs alot quicker on the 7800:2000, is this one a higher octane?
Car hasn't been remapped by the way.

You are talking about the BS Numbers (Super Unleaded is BS 7800:2000) which most people will have no clue what you are on about. You need to talk in Octane ratings, Tesco 99 and Vpower (Both 99ron) are reputidly the best fuel to run your Scoob on unless it has been specifically Mapped to run on Standard Unleaded, These fuels tend to Increase Fuel economy and also Increase power by a small amount.

From what I can find:

95 Octane unleaded - BS 228:2000
97 Octane unleaded - BS 7800:2000
DERV - BS EN 590:2000

I cant find a BS standard for VPower or Tesco 99 so may come under the 7800:2000 bracket.


So Yes 7800:2000 (Super Unleaded 97ron+) is the Higher octane rated fuel, but I use Only Tesco99 or Vpower in my UK STI. Hope that helps.
Old 20 January 2010, 12:31 PM
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Sorry didn't explane fully
the tescos i use have differnt pumps, a couple have just 7800, others have 7800:2000! Is there a difference with the number on the end?
Old 20 January 2010, 12:38 PM
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From what I can find, and what I think is normal the 2000 refers to the Year the BS Standard was Introduced nothing to do with the Fuel Itself.
Old 20 January 2010, 12:42 PM
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While we're on Tesco 99, I've noticed some Tesco Super unleaded sold is their Tesco99, and some Tesco forecourt super is their 97RON super unleaded...
Old 20 January 2010, 12:48 PM
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tesco is crap imho use shell optimax its the same price here in telford.

my fuel economy drops with tesco 99 as does power. vpower make it better.
Old 20 January 2010, 01:00 PM
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Originally Posted by motorola222
tesco is crap imho use shell optimax its the same price here in telford.

my fuel economy drops with tesco 99 as does power. vpower make it better.
Funny that. Mine is the other way round I suppose different cars get different results.

You do have to careful with Tesco's as some stations Super Unleaded is the 97 stuff, not the 99.
Old 20 January 2010, 01:04 PM
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Originally Posted by N_Scooby
Funny that. Mine is the other way round I suppose different cars get different results.

You do have to careful with Tesco's as some stations Super Unleaded is the 97 stuff, not the 99.
I agree with everything u say. One thing thought and that esso fuel is ****
Old 20 January 2010, 01:12 PM
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Smile Fuel

The difference between Tesco and Shell,Shell obtain their super fuel by better distillation,Tesco do it by adding chemicals,dont use BP this has some hostile chemicals in it,My STI JDM runs great on Vmax,if I have to use Tesco 99 I never push the car near its limit.It maybe me but Vmax has a sweeter smell,the wife told me to stop sniffing it !!!!
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That's a myth isn't it Evo Mag checked a few years ago & biggest influence over quality was how long the fuel had sat in the tank before being dispensed ergo Tesco etc is bound to be better as their fuel gets used up quicker so is always fresh! T99 is as good as anything else out there ...

Can't comment on your fuel economy of course

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Originally Posted by motorola222
tesco is crap imho use shell optimax its the same price here in telford.

my fuel economy drops with tesco 99 as does power. vpower make it better.
Old 20 January 2010, 02:24 PM
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Originally Posted by motorola222
tesco is crap imho use shell optimax its the same price here in telford.

my fuel economy drops with tesco 99 as does power. vpower make it better.
sorry if i sound petty but it stopped getting called optimax about 3 yrs ago
Old 20 January 2010, 02:38 PM
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Post 2005 cars should run on 95 octane fine, they all have a knock sensor -the only problem is a loss of power is the I timing retards.

Though I agree for heavy turbo boost sessions super unleaded is prefered.

If you can afford SUL use it.
Old 20 January 2010, 02:45 PM
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Originally Posted by my06 ppp silver
sorry if i sound petty but it stopped getting called optimax about 3 yrs ago
Ok wise guy!! Lol
Old 20 January 2010, 03:08 PM
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I don't know if this will help. There was an episode of Fifth Gear and they actually tested the octane levels in fuel. (as far as I can remember) They tested a super market, BP and Shell. The supermarket and BP's octane was actually lower than they claim but Shell was spot on with their octane level.
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Originally Posted by GezP
I don't know if this will help. There was an episode of Fifth Gear and they actually tested the octane levels in fuel. (as far as I can remember) They tested a super market, BP and Shell. The supermarket and BP's octane was actually lower than they claim but Shell was spot on with their octane level.
I'm sure I saw that episode it on YouTube if u search for it. Didn't they test it's effects on a normal car I'm pretty sure it was a 1.4 Clio and then a impreza sti and found bp ultimate to be good and acurate in it's claims but shell vpower smashed it's own figures and was brilliant.
Old 20 January 2010, 03:28 PM
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i'm sure you're right. I don't remeber the hole episode just remember thinking you lying robbing cu*ts
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its just a shame my local shell is always being investigated for fraud
Old 20 January 2010, 04:07 PM
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i think shell proved to come out top on scooby sti(performance cars), but no difference in clio with the other two suppliers.
Old 20 January 2010, 04:47 PM
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Originally Posted by motorola222
tesco is crap imho use shell optimax its the same price here in telford.

my fuel economy drops with tesco 99 as does power. vpower make it better.
Last time I went to Tescos in Telford (about a year ago) the SUL was only 97 RON, so I went to Ketley Shell (same price).

Unless they've started selling 99, then that would explain the difference.
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Tesco gets its Octane higher by adding Ethanol to normal fuel, VPower doesn't get its higher Octane this way, its just a better fuel. VPower has a higher calorific (spelling?) value than T99 so you should have more stored chemical energy in the same amount of fuel. All T99 alows you to do is get more power by advancing the ignition timing. Better off adding Ethanol to VPower, then you will get a much better pump available fuel.
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