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Old 12 October 2009, 08:19 AM
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Default PPP ecu to used ecutek ecu MY99/00?

I'm thinking of getting my MY00 UK Turbo remapped. It currently has a full PPP, but I was going to get a second hand ecutek ecu with licence.

How much would it be likely to cost?

Another question: Without changing anything else on the PPP, how much extra horse power/torque can I expect with a bespoke remap?

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Old 12 October 2009, 08:27 AM
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Not sure on your question, but if your going to be selling the ppp first dibs on it please.
Old 12 October 2009, 12:25 PM
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Originally Posted by stevo1970
Another question: Without changing anything else on the PPP, how much extra horse power/torque can I expect with a bespoke remap?
I wouldn't have thought the gains would be worth the expense without one or two extra mods first..
Old 12 October 2009, 07:47 PM
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Your running about 240 - 260bhp on your ppp map but if you sold your ppp ecu an ecuteked a standard one i think you would be looking at 280 at the most without altering anything else.

Im in the same boat with a ppp'd 99 uk turbo and with a bigger turbo such as a vf28 or td05 you will be looking at around 320 bhp roughly with the new ecutek map accouting for the new turbo, i think!
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Originally Posted by maff125
Your running about 240 - 260bhp on your ppp map but if you sold your ppp ecu an ecuteked a standard one i think you would be looking at 280 at the most without altering anything else.

Im in the same boat with a ppp'd 99 uk turbo and with a bigger turbo such as a vf28 or td05 you will be looking at around 320 bhp roughly with the new ecutek map accouting for the new turbo, i think!
Spot on there really. a ppp'd ecu will be around the 260 mark, the absolute most with an ECUTEK remap will be 275/280 due to the limit of the TD04. Ideal step up is vf28 (P1) + ECUTEK which as stated should give about 310/320. All depends if you want to go further in the future, as a VF28 will also be on limit at 330 ish......
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Where does the 260bhp come from with the PPP ecu? In the official blurb the MY00 Classic PPP gives 237bhp and 258lb/ft. The newage PPP cars gave 265bhp.

I was thinking of selling my Prodrive ECU, buying an ecutek licenced 800, 801 or 802 , fitting a decat downpipe and then getting a bespoke map done.

What is the going rate for the PPP ECU and a Ecutek licenced ecu? same money?
Old 13 October 2009, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by stevo1970
Where does the 260bhp come from with the PPP ecu?
The official figures are generally thought to be an under-estimate (although I'm not suggesting that the 260 quote is correct either).

I was thinking of selling my Prodrive ECU, buying an ecutek licenced 800, 801 or 802 , fitting a decat downpipe and then getting a bespoke map done.
The difficulty with buying an ECU with an open TeK licence on it is the risk of buying a standard box from a dishonest seller.

What is the going rate for the PPP ECU and a Ecutek licenced ecu? same money?
The 99-00 PPP ECU seems to go for quite a bit secondhand. TBH, from both an ultimate cost and financial risk point of view, you would probably be better advised to pick up a standard ECU for less than £30 and flogging your PPP box than trying to find one that has an open licence on it. The initial EcuTeK licence is, what, £150? If so, you would need the going rate for a licenced one to be less than £180 or so for this route to be worthwhile.

Also don't forget that there appears to be an open source option for these ECUs nowadays. Provided the tools are good enough, it's the quality of the mapping that makes the difference.

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I have an ECUTEK MY99/00 ECU you can have for 200 quid plus postage, it is currently mapped for a P1 by Bob Rawle who still has my maps on his laptop so getting him to remap it should be fairly straight forward.
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Is it a standard MY99/00 ecu with a licence or is it a P1 ECU, I thought the P1 ecu was an STi one and used different connector and as herefore not compatable.
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Just watched a couple of MY99/00 PPP ECU's go on ebay for over £500 a piece
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Power on these with the ppp is 237bhp on unleaded (though its recommended to run them on 97+ ron only) and 250bhp on super (and its pretty much on that figure too! )

As said, your best off with an 800/801 or 802 ecu and getting it mapped, then selling the ppp one.

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I have a MY00 ecu but it hasent been ECUTEK so you would have to buy the liance.

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Originally Posted by just123
Just watched a couple of MY99/00 PPP ECU's go on ebay for over £500 a piece
Bl**dy hell !

If some one offers me £500 its off and in the post tonight!
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Originally Posted by stevo1970
Is it a standard MY99/00 ecu with a licence or is it a P1 ECU, I thought the P1 ecu was an STi one and used different connector and as herefore not compatable.
It is a standard 99/00 ECU with Licence. I blew my engine up so dropped an STi 5/6 engine, I ran it on the remapped ECU for a few months and then swapped to simtek so my MY00 ecu was surplus to requiremens and is in a bubble wrap bag at home.

Bob Mapped it with the P1 map he had with a few tweaks.
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Originally Posted by stevo1970
Bl**dy hell !

If some one offers me £500 its off and in the post tonight!
lol...I would to!!! I've not see them go much above £300 myself and thats good really.....

I too have a 99/00 ECU with a mapping licence on it sitting in a jiffy bag in the garage. It's supposed to be for my 99 UK Turbo when I get around to remap, but may sell for right offer...

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Old 17 October 2009, 09:34 PM
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Originally Posted by Proby521
lol...I would to!!! I've not see them go much above £300 myself and thats good really.....

I too have a 99/00 ECU with a mapping licence on it sitting in a jiffy bag in the garage. It's supposed to be for my 99 UK Turbo when I get around to remap, but may sell for right offer...
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