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Old 10 October 2009, 01:15 PM
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Default Which Lowering Springs ?? ADVICE NEEDED !

right i cant afford coilovers so want a decent set of lowering springs, on all my previous cars i have always used eibach, the ride quality was good ( not too hard or soft ), they were good quality, they lowered the car just the right amount and never knocked or bottomed out ect

although some people have told me to try some other makes, but i dont want to buy any to find their crap and have the trouble of sending them back,

i had a set of apex springs on one of my old cars and they were always knocking, even with just me in the car, whereas my eibachs never bottomed out, even with a car full !

so what do you reccomend;

for ride quality ?
for price ?
for what weight they will take ( car full or not ect ) ?
for looks ?

just general advice needed really, cheers for help, nick

PS. pics would be great !
Old 10 October 2009, 01:49 PM
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I am getting a set of prodrive springs fitted on friday.

Will post pics when they are done.
Old 10 October 2009, 06:00 PM
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I think its Eibach that make the springs for prodrive but don't quote me on it So either of these would be my choices, Prodrive being first choice.

HTH

Aaron
Old 10 October 2009, 07:35 PM
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Originally Posted by azz250478
I think its Eibach that make the springs for prodrive but don't quote me on it So either of these would be my choices, Prodrive being first choice.

HTH

Aaron
i think you are right bud, i have eibach. spot on and a lot cheaper than the rebranded prodrive
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Teins on mine have a look in my garage

Cost me £110 delivered new off a guy on here, I think they are around £130 rrp. I use my car as a daily driver and dont find them too stiff, they helped to reduce the standard understeer and make the car sit better although I still think the front sits a bit high by a few mm depending what angle you look at

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Old 10 October 2009, 09:41 PM
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Originally Posted by my06 ppp silver
i think you are right bud, i have eibach. spot on and a lot cheaper than the rebranded prodrive
I had Prodrive lowering springs on my Hawkeye WRX and there is a difference between Eibach and Prodive lowering springs apart from the price.

The Prodrive springs have more anti-clatter wrapping on them and they have a slightly different recoil/damping rate as well.

I would go for the Prodrive springs as even though they are more expensive they are acknowledged to be the best available for standard struts (plus make sure you fit the uprated front strut rebound buffers that you get in the kit rather than leave your old buffers in).

I will wait for the various contradicting answers telling me how wrong I am.

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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
I had Prodrive lowering springs on my Hawkeye WRX and there is a difference between Eibach and Prodive lowering springs apart from the price.

The Prodrive springs have more anti-clatter wrapping on them and they have a slightly different recoil/damping rate as well.

I would go for the Prodrive springs as even though they are more expensive they are acknowledged to be the best available for standard struts (plus make sure you fit the uprated front strut rebound buffers that you get in the kit rather than leave your old buffers in).

I will wait for the various contradicting answers telling me how wrong I am.
Your right matey. I knew whoever made them, made them to prodrives specs so there not just rebranded Eibachs. And i've heard other people say they are better than Eibachs own.

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apologies, i stand corrected. lol.
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Originally Posted by my06 ppp silver
apologies, i stand corrected. lol.
Your forgiven
Old 11 October 2009, 06:16 PM
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Where is the best place/price to get the prodrive springs ?
Old 11 October 2009, 06:22 PM
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I have H&R springs on my classic with AGX shocks. A good combination lowering the car by 50mm, but not making the ride too hard and not breaking the bank either.
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anyone got any pics ?? mines a blobeye on 18's, so i can see what it will look like ?

and people who have either eibachs or tein s tech's, do they knock or bottom out at all ? on rough roads, at speed, with a car full ect ?

cheers nick
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no probs wih my teins bottoming out, even with a full car of people (some biggies as well .... )
Old 12 October 2009, 05:43 PM
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I've got whiteline "flatout" on mine they are not to harsh a ride and perform well but are noisy at low speeds.
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Originally Posted by scooby401
I've got whiteline "flatout" on mine they are not to harsh a ride and perform well but are noisy at low speeds.
why, how do you mean ?

cheers nick
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Originally Posted by n_12ead
why, how do you mean ?

cheers nick
I think that they suffer from clatter at low speeds over potholes, speed bumps etc probably as they do not have enough of the wrapping I referred to.

I never suffered from any clatter at all whether low speed or not on the Prodrive springs, they actually improved the ride comfort and handling at the same time.

Just make sure whichever springs that you fit that you have a steering/suspension geometry alignment carried out at the same time as your alignment will be knocked out when the struts are removed.

This will be of further benefit and will really transform your cars handling.

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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
I think that they suffer from clatter at low speeds over potholes, speed bumps etc probably as they do not have enough over the wrapping I referred to.
Cheers Ty
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Originally Posted by scooby401
Cheers Ty
No problems Jarv
Old 13 October 2009, 06:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
I think that they suffer from clatter at low speeds over potholes, speed bumps etc probably as they do not have enough of the wrapping I referred to.

I never suffered from any clatter at all whether low speed or not on the Prodrive springs, they actually improved the ride comfort and handling at the same time.

Just make sure whichever springs that you fit that you have a steering/suspension geometry alignment carried out at the same time as your alignment will be knocked out when the struts are removed.

This will be of further benefit and will really transform your cars handling.
no well the eibachs on my previous cars never knocked at all neither, slow / speed bumps / rough roads, just never had any problems at all !]

and sorry i am no mechanic, why do they need re aligning ? i had my others tracked after fitting the springs, but obviously wernt as technical as a subaru im guessing ?

cheers nick
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Prodrive springs on both of mine. Teins have the edge on stance, but I hear they are a firmer ride than the Prodrives.



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Originally Posted by 53WRX
Prodrive springs on both of mine. Teins have the edge on stance, but I hear they are a firmer ride than the Prodrives.



any knocks on the teins ? low speed or high ? cheers

thinks ive narrowed it down to either 'Tein S Tech's' or 'Eibach's', prodrive seem a little expensive at the min

cheers nick
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Originally Posted by n_12ead
and sorry i am no mechanic, why do they need re aligning ? i had my others tracked after fitting the springs, but obviously wernt as technical as a subaru im guessing ?

cheers nick
Because when your struts are removed it will knock the geometry out of alignment, when it is properly aligned they will adjust the camber/caster angles to improve the steering and handling.

The standard factory alignment is ok but when it is professionally setup you will notice the difference.
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I get my car back tomorrow with Eibach springs and geometry setup...Already have 24mm Whiteline ARB and solid droplinks...I'll let you know how it compares
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Originally Posted by Cannon Fodder
I had Prodrive lowering springs on my Hawkeye WRX and there is a difference between Eibach and Prodive lowering springs apart from the price.


I would go for the Prodrive springs as even though they are more expensive they are acknowledged to be the best available for standard struts (plus make sure you fit the uprated front strut rebound buffers that you get in the kit rather than leave your old buffers in).
I Tottally agree,

One other point

IIRC
Prodrive have TWO different spring Kits WRX spring Kit and STi Spring Kit (which take into the account of the different front end weights of both models) .
They are made by "Spring manufcturers" like Eibach etc with "Prodrives" own specification and not the makers spec.

if you live on a smooth race track or have really good roads, you shouldn't get "bottoming out" issues on the fronts, I did on my bugeye STi and removed the Eibachs and had Prodrive springs fitted, much better IMHO

If a WRX I'd consider Eibachs (if a good saving over the Prodrive WRX kit)

if a STi I'd really only recommend Prodrive STi kit



Tony

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