p1 or import sti type r??
10 May 2009, 02:20 PM
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p1 or import sti type r??
hi every after owning a classic turbo for 18 months i now fancy a 2 door either a p1 or sti type r. could any help me on which way 2 go and wot to look out for. Are all type r coupe imports and wot is the difference between the 2..
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10 May 2009, 02:32 PM
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Yes all type R's are imports, the difference between the P1 and STI type R (and there are quite alot), P1's have ABS, Type R's dont, but do have DCCD (drivers controlled Centre Differential), P1's dont have rear 2 pots, STI type R's do. Type R's (ver 5/6) need the highest octane fuel available (as they are mapped for 100 ron fuel, 3&4's its recommended the same) P1's just need 97 ron (but I would run exactly the same high octane fuel as per JDM STI's as the maps are the same for the P1/Ver 5/6's but with more knock correction on the P1).
Type R's have more goodies, electric folding mirrors and climate control for instance, and they are normally cheaper than a P1.
What to look for.... Maf sensors go (common on 99/00 year cars) and that can lead to a big engine rebuild bill
Service history is required on a P1 for sure, check for service history on a type R also, 6 monthly/7.5k miles.
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Type R's have more goodies, electric folding mirrors and climate control for instance, and they are normally cheaper than a P1.
What to look for.... Maf sensors go (common on 99/00 year cars) and that can lead to a big engine rebuild bill
Service history is required on a P1 for sure, check for service history on a type R also, 6 monthly/7.5k miles.
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10 May 2009, 03:55 PM
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ok then mate thanx for the advice will have to have a googd think about it.. are parts and servicing an issue on imports and is there an issue with fuelling imports
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10 May 2009, 07:13 PM
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p1 cheaper insurance and the limited build did it for me, as for the rear 2 pots not a bi one to me as my p1 came with 6 pot ap's on the front and the lack of the dccd come on be honest how many who have it classic and newage who really uses it or do you keep it set to auto. P1 would be my choice and I am biased
10 May 2009, 07:22 PM
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p1 cheaper insurance and the limited build did it for me, as for the rear 2 pots not a bi one to me as my p1 came with 6 pot ap's on the front and the lack of the dccd come on be honest how many who have it classic and newage who really uses it or do you keep it set to auto. P1 would be my choice and I am biased
10 May 2009, 07:22 PM
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Dccd adjustment makes a huge difference on my sti type ra.........and getting to know the settings is part of the fun.Even just launching at the drag strip with diff open and then winding it forward gradually every run improved my 60ft times.
And in the wet with it set to orange the car becomes far more managable......
And in the wet with it set to orange the car becomes far more managable......
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11 May 2009, 08:28 AM
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P1 is a much more capable and compliant road car (if that's going to be the cars use for the percentage of the time.....)
I run a P1 and 22B (22B is much and such the same animal as the type-R) and the P1 for me is the better road car aswell as having about 95% of the track ability.
With the P1 you will get a longer ratio'd gearbox which is much easier to live with (especially if your car is de'catted....) and as said ABS is a lot more use than DCCD for all but 3days a year. Electric mirrors are handy but shouldn't be a reason for choosing a car and the "climate control" isn't exactly great and again, really not something that should influence your descision when buying these kinds of cars.
P1 can easily be remapped etc. and will have a more reliable history.
Type R will be cheaper and in reality, both cars are equally as fast. It depends what you want the car to do/what you intend to use it for and what YOU prefer.......go drive the two and see what you like. Don't listen to us! Lol.
I run a P1 and 22B (22B is much and such the same animal as the type-R) and the P1 for me is the better road car aswell as having about 95% of the track ability.
With the P1 you will get a longer ratio'd gearbox which is much easier to live with (especially if your car is de'catted....) and as said ABS is a lot more use than DCCD for all but 3days a year. Electric mirrors are handy but shouldn't be a reason for choosing a car and the "climate control" isn't exactly great and again, really not something that should influence your descision when buying these kinds of cars.
P1 can easily be remapped etc. and will have a more reliable history.
Type R will be cheaper and in reality, both cars are equally as fast. It depends what you want the car to do/what you intend to use it for and what YOU prefer.......go drive the two and see what you like. Don't listen to us! Lol.
11 May 2009, 01:35 PM
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Go drive both is the best way. Its all personal preference. I think most people who go for either are primeraly doing it for the 2 door look (me included). In standard form I think the P1 is a better all round car, but with the money saved by buying a Type-r you could have a few mods... 
11 May 2009, 08:06 PM
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Go drive both is the best way. Its all personal preference. I think most people who go for either are primeraly doing it for the 2 door look (me included). In standard form I think the P1 is a better all round car, but with the money saved by buying a Type-r you could have a few mods...
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11 May 2009, 08:58 PM
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YEAH CHEERS FOR THE HELP LIKE MENTIONED EARLIER IT IS THE 2 DOOR LOOKS WHICH ARE MOST APPEALING.. JUST TOO MANY QUESTIONS THAT COME WITH THE IMPORTS THE TRUE MILEAGE OF THE CARS AND ALSO THE HISTORY..
THANX AGAIN
THANX AGAIN
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