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Old 23 March 2009, 11:42 AM
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What turbo is on it Connor?
Old 23 March 2009, 11:46 AM
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I think it will be a TD04... Get a TD05 and a decat, hold on... I'm selling a TD05 right now
Old 23 March 2009, 11:56 AM
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Plug in and play obviously to get the most with any mod though a remap would be needed at some point.
The TD05 is slightly more laggy at bottom end hence why I decatted mine.
Boosts hard all the way to red line!
Old 23 March 2009, 12:08 PM
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It should bolt straight in as simple as the other one comes off, but I would strongly recomend a remap

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Old 23 March 2009, 12:11 PM
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What year is it? MY99/00 really don't like those mushrooms.

Anyway, my choice for a UK car would be

VF35
FMIC
bigger injectors if need be
Fettled exhaust manifold
Uprated fuel pump and regulator
And ECU of your choice, TEK, PFC or Simtek

Should see you well into 300hp
Old 23 March 2009, 12:19 PM
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I don't think you really need a FMIC unless you are going for over 400bhp IMO creates too much unneeded lag.

My choice would be:
TD05
STI 8 TMIC & scoop
decat pipe
Z5 ECU (8k rev limit )
Modded air box with panel filter.

Old 23 March 2009, 01:25 PM
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Originally Posted by Chris.B
I don't think you really need a FMIC unless you are going for over 400bhp IMO creates too much unneeded lag.

My choice would be:
TD05
STI 8 TMIC & scoop
decat pipe
Z5 ECU (8k rev limit )
Modded air box with panel filter.


scoobynet myth machine strikes again,,, lol

if mapped correctly you wont get lag from a front mount, also benefits are seen from as low as 300.

there was a whole thread a while back about it
Old 23 March 2009, 01:46 PM
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FPR shouldn't be needed
walbrough 255 - few different ones but thats easily available and not too expensive.

440 injectors will be ok for hte that level of tune, but if you plan to go more later then 550's would give you head room, however to go above the level of 440's your gonna need to consider other things, like gearbox and forged build
Old 23 March 2009, 02:04 PM
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TD05-16g is a great turbo.

Will need a remap and a STi8 TMIC will do the job very nicely.

Limit your power aspirations if money is an issue as a TD05-16g is more than capable of killing your gearbox (budget £2000-3000k for stronger boxes). Even at low boost (1-1.2 bar) the TD05 is quick.
Old 23 March 2009, 02:09 PM
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Originally Posted by BOB'5
TD05-16g is a great turbo.

Will need a remap and a STi8 TMIC will do the job very nicely.

Limit your power aspirations if money is an issue as a TD05-16g is more than capable of killing your gearbox (budget £2000-3000k for stronger boxes). Even at low boost (1-1.2 bar) the TD05 is quick.

got a link to that intercooler thread bob?

have a read of this

http://www.scoobyclinic.com/download...coolertest.pdf
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Originally Posted by Connor_scotland
Whats the differece between 16g, 18g ETC

housing size. the bigger the more peak power
Old 23 March 2009, 02:10 PM
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My 2 litre spec was:

VF28
Lateral headers
Fully de-catted
Apexi PFC
simota panel filter

it made 320bhp/300lbft of torque.

I'd recommend the VF28, not much lag & made for a very swift car, streets apart from the TD04. i'm still running it on my 2.5 & it performs very nicely, much like the TD04 did on a 2 litre.

I certainly wouldn't just bolt on a bigger turbo without getting a remap, you are asking for trouble in my opinion. Depending on whether you have the phase 1.5 or Phase 2 engine & management will determine whether or not you need an aftermarket ECU like the Apexi PFC. The 1998 ECU's aren't currently mappable I believe.

I reckon a VF28/34/35 with a set of ported headers & a remap will totally transform your car.

HTH
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16g is std, 18g and 20g are for higher power applications 350BHP+
Old 23 March 2009, 02:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
got a link to that intercooler thread bob?

have a read of this

http://www.scoobyclinic.com/download...coolertest.pdf
What intercooler thread?

What's the relevance of a std WRX TMIC link?

http://www.andyforrestperformance.co.uk/27032.html

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Old 23 March 2009, 02:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Connor_scotland
My car is an R reg 1998 Edd

What fuel pump an regulator should i get an what difference do these make. Sorry i dont know to much about turbos etc yet

Is it a Walbro 255?
Mines got a Walbro pump and I think its a fuel lab FPR (Its metallic red but haven't really paid it much attention)

Theres arguments for and against FMICs but its still in the wrong place on top of the engine. I also stand by VF35 over TD05 - AFAIK the VF will be on song first and be a much better road car turbo. You want it useable not at a point where by the time the turbo is upand running its time for another corner

As its a 98, you can't have TEK mapping so a Power FC would be your first port of call
Old 23 March 2009, 08:19 PM
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Connor, I personally wouldn't just stick another turbo on it and give it the beans. Your boost will be all over the place.

Pm 'Dunx' on here. Hes got a Bugeye STi and wacked a great big turbo on it in place of his VF34. It showed peak boost on his Defi's @ 2.0bar before JGM mapped it again. That worked out at 525bhp he reckoned, which could have blown his engine. He's now running a safe 390bhp with the same set up.

If you can't afford the map, don't buy the turbo imo Or just expect trouble. Also, standard topmount will be ok for 300bhp, although a STi upgrade would help more. No need for a FMIC again imo for that power, unless you plan on consistantly running 3 figures when the romours about the bonnet scoop come into play
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view my Scoob mate for a nicely modded Uk Turbo
Old 23 March 2009, 08:32 PM
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clutch is perfect from cold and warm, good bit of kit even better with the light weight flywheel, supplyed by Bob5 top bloke top bit of kit
Old 23 March 2009, 11:46 PM
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Bin the mushroom filter, crap
get a decat downpipe, good
go back to standard leads as all other fall short in comparison
check injectors aren't still 380s if so go 440
ignore the 16g haters, its one of the best you can buy, early IHI are cholcolate by comparison
get a walbro pump and SX regulator, avoid FSE like herpes

and FFS get some better brakes BEFORE you put the power up
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Std Airbox + KN filter
SS Downpipe
PPP Centre & Backbox
Walbro
FPR
Tek3
VF35

Pushed (still pushing afaik) 315/320bhp on an MY99
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first things first. i would rip up passenger footwell carpet and see if there is actually powerfc, simtec etc fitted and not just a standard 8s subaru ecu.
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Originally Posted by Peanuts
Bin the mushroom filter, crap
get a decat downpipe, good
go back to standard leads as all other fall short in comparison
check injectors aren't still 380s if so go 440
ignore the 16g haters, its one of the best you can buy, early IHI are cholcolate by comparison
get a walbro pump and SX regulator, avoid FSE like herpes

and FFS get some better brakes BEFORE you put the power up
and suspension. Didn't hike the power in my old Scoob, but the brakes were good and the suspension was overhauled so a better drive all round.


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