colebags_scoob

on my way home from work today got over taken by a type r def getting a remap now with a p1 turbo put on her.

GlesgaKiss

You can't have been trying very hard.

Although I suppose in a straight line the two cars would be neck and neck assuming both were standard.

Then again, the Type R could have been supercharged(quite a few are these days) meaning it would trounce a standard Turbo 2000.

colebags_scoob

he had a job to get round but the fuc*er did mine is standard part from exhaust and k&n gota get a remapp soon an a new turbo then bring it on

w13dle

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they are quick cars i was behind a mate the other week & had a job catching him up & im running about 280 ish

Tidgy

not much in it till you hit 300bhp+, then it'll be a different story.

had one try with me a few months back, let him get a bit ahead before giving it large, didn't stay ahead for long lol

GlesgaKiss

My car was running less than that and it was a good bit quicker than my friend's Type R...and through the corners the Impreza was just in a different league.

Tidgy

would have thought it dpends on the state of tune to the R

GlesgaKiss

I'm talking standard. But to be honest with the Type R being NA, it's not a cheap car to tune.

Norman Dog

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I had a bit play with a Type R before I had my car remapped, done him easily from standstill and out of bends - on the straight couldn't pull away from him.

icarus1859

I came across one on a long straight piece of road (private road of course) in my Impreza turbo.
We both booted it from about 35mph and were pretty much neck and neck all the way to close to top speed.
I was pulling away slightly but only by a few yards over the whole time we were together.

There weren't any twisty corners or I reckon I'd have had an edge, especially in the wet, but they are pretty quick to be fair.

wiley

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never had any races with a ctr, but i have with a cliosport which is supposed to quite equally matched. obviously i left him for dust

wiley

jasonius

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When my WRX was standard the rolling performance between several CTR's was negligible (possibly 'slightly' in my favour). Same with 182/cups etc..

First remap and 280ish there was easily a difference under same scenario (largely due to instant response of TD04).

Now, near 350 it's night and day.

Compared to some of the newer hot hatches (ie turbo motors) the CTR is quite warm. For me the last and most impressive was a Mazda 3 MPS, which TBH I thought was a bog standard mazda 3, thus giving me a bit of a shock. Once I realised what it was I then responded accordingly , but they are quick once rolling. I nearly had to give it the full beans to get ahead..

So if you're having trouble with a CTR, just watch out for an MPS..!

MrRA

I had 3 CTR's before moving to Scoobs so I'm well aware of what can be achieved with these cars.

Sound like you came up against a supercharged one probably running a Jackson Racing SC, or for bigger power a Rotrex unit), although there are some turbo'd ones also going round.

They only weigh 1204kg so once they're up and running and around the 300/300+bhp level of tune they're VERY quick, obviously it's traction that's the biggest problem for them. There is a Quaife LSD available for them which does wonders believe.

My favourite one was built by System-R (TDi North) in Warrington. They decided on going with a full Toda 2.2 stroker setup with various supporting mods (4-2-1 manifold etc etc). IIRC it made around 302bhp but produced a very different drive due to it still being NA. They then replaced it with a stupid HKS 2.6 turbo'd lump after that.

tweaks

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drove one recently and they not a patch on the scoob !!! no chance not in n/a form anyway. my old eg civic hatch used to keep up with them (1600 vtec ) they were fairly new back then but you should have seen the look on the blokes face....ha ha

Darc174

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i have also come across a couple of CTR

Blew them away,

icarus1859

Depends what road you're on and who's driving obviously.
But in a straight line against a WRX I don't think theres much in it.

Out of bends the scoob is obviously going to have an edge because of the torque.

But really you're comparing chalk and cheese.

mit

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I had an embarrasing moment with one in my old standard uk95 turbo, hence the 2.5 conversion!
The RA i have now, i like to think is in a different class, even when it was standard, but again, a good driver in a ctr could make all the difference!

scoobyboy

there is nothing in it on a straight road between a wrx and a ctr, an sti will obviously beat it and the subarus do have the edge around corners and in snow!!

Jonlu

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I've only had the chance to sit in my friends one. I wasn't too impressed with the straight line speed - the car was screaming like hell and felt quite uneventful...BUT...then he went down some winding roads and 'wow' those things stick to the tarmac like sh*t to blanket.
I think these car's would be very handy on a track.