reano

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Having been to a few 'specialist' and without going into great detail I have seen a few threads of people not so happy with the service they get. Expensive, customer service?, poor mapping, etc.

With the recession set to bite even harder next year (from about February onwards if predictions are correct) does the traditional specialist have the 'right' to survive? If you had a choice of only one of the specialists to survive who would it be and why?

I'm finding it much better to just get a good local reputable mechanic to fit the standard items as it's much cheaper and if you are after a remap, it's best to go with the individual specialists like Andy F, Bob R or the JGM.

If your car is over 400bhp and pushing for more why not consider mapping yourself.... Get the many books first and read a while, then get onto the EFi101 course to advance level (with hands-on practical tuning), book a local dyno and if you have a custom ECU as well just get the software and tools and tweak away..... (once you've had the lessons, etc)

So vote and lets see who is coming out on top.....

ScoobyDoo555

I think they should all "survive" - I wouldn't wish for anybody to go under during the potentially rough times ahead.

Be prepared to get flamed for this

4wheel

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i think there will allways be a call for specialists,maybe they will have tighten their belts like the rest of us, maybe even lower their prices to tempt people in to their workshops and or special offers?

Turbotits

iTrader: (2)

I agree. I'm not going to vote on this.

wiley

iTrader: (63)

most should survive, dont think credit crunch will effect these companies really... not effected vodafone retail at all, if so we're even busier

wiley

RS_Matt

'The racing Line' as there aren't any other decent tuners in the vast expanse of Yorkshire, especially for Evo's.

As far as I'm aware IGB Group, Magnex and RC Developments have bitten the bullet so far.

Gear Head

iTrader: (2)

Let's just say that I have heard of some unhappy customers who used TSL as of late.

jayallen

iTrader: (31)

What a pointless thread.

S3TH

iTrader: (2)

I cant believe youve had the audacity to create a thread like this?

Absolutely shocking and unwarranted imho.

micky

iTrader: (2)

i hope they all survive!
how would you like us lot wishing you lost your income,your house and your car. ****!!!!!!

Red Rocket 11166

Ditto

Red.

NXG

This thread is dumb.

I've dealt with three of the companies on your list, and all of them have their strengths and all 'deserve' to survive.

But how can I vote for three when the choice is only for one, or by omission of a positive vote, neg companies I have no experience of?

dunx

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They all make VAST profits.... so should all survive a lean spell !


Seriously, it's bad management that will kill any company, not a quiet spell.

I hope that the economic down-turn will reduce the queues for quality engineering work.... yes I do want an up-rated motor !

DunxC

chocolate_o_brian

iTrader: (22)

Sorry, imho its a silly thread/poll to have. Even though people can't see other opinions, your basically asking for people to decide who stays in and who goes out of business.

Sorry just don't agree with the the way it's been put across.

taffyboyo

this thread is just wrong, plain and simple

scooby0809

iTrader: (11)

would not **** on david at api if he was on fire so they wont get my vote,subaru4you tho is a proper out fit and hope they manage fine, above all imo tho

Jamo

iTrader: (23)

clearly everyone dosent think its a pointless thread seeing as a lot of people have voted!! just my 2p!

rob4620

thats a nice thing to put on a public forum mate, i bet a lot of thought went into it.

this thread is stupid and should be taken down.

T5NYW

iTrader: (4)

totally agree I likewise have used 3 of the Companies and had excellent service from them all

The others were not used them because of their "Location" and not because they were "rubbish" , "worse" or "Dearer"

IMHO IIRC

Tony

Ps this poll should not survive in it's present form IT'S STUPID

beal

iTrader: (1)

Maybe hes just trying to prove the obvious point...
This poll says it all..

reano

iTrader: (2)

This is what forum's are all about lots of heated debate. If you haven't gathered this (some have) it's to see which specialist is rated the best rather than the wishy/washy I love em all.

No company has a right to survive and those that do deserve to, (I hope) simple. If a company is good, I would not wish it to go out of business at all but if it isn't should it stay in business?

It's very simple why get so worked up? If you read my thread I'm saying none have the 'right' to survive and if you had to choose one, which one? What this should be doing is letting you think "Hmmm which do I think is the best?..

reano

iTrader: (2)

Do you believe that all business's should survive regardless of the service they give to their customers?

I have read threads of people complaining about a couple of specialists in particular and I 'would' wish for any restaurant that gives people food poisoning to go under, people that sell toys that are dangerous to kids to go under and any car specialist that keeps on giving poor service to customers to go under.

reano

iTrader: (2)

If I wasn't doing my job well then would I deserve to keep them?

Please politely re-read the question and ask yourself did the OP wish that any go out of business?

Next, two companies Zen and RCM seem to be standing out above the rest. Some are averaging and others (although they have had a lot of customers) don't appear to get as many votes.

JohnD

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Dead right!
If I was anyone on that list, I'd be quite offended. It's just another of those doubtful "witch hunt" threads.
I would like the moderator to consider the relevance of this thread, carefully.

JohnD

p1doc

i have used tsl loads of times and plan to use engine tuner for my murtaya but polls like these are just sh*te in my opinion
martin

GlesgaKiss

None should go out of business. Can only vote for Roger Clark, as everything associated with them is quality.

sanf

Sorry if you've had a bad time with Dave, but I can't rate him highly enough. Since we got involved with our Scooby Dave has been amazing, always willing to help on the phone and all the work / parts he's provided have all been top notch. I'm willing to drive the 100 miles to see him.

I hope all of these guys make it through. The recession is tough and all these people are trying to make a living, which is fair enough. I'm more than happy to pay for informed expertise.

NXG

That's a fairly retarded comment and understandably unsupported by any evidence to substantiate your rant.

From my dealings with David at API so far, they're most certainly one of the best outfits out there.

Lateral Performance

iTrader: (20)

Maybe the likes of Andy Forrest, Bob Rawle, JGM, Subaru 4 u, and dare I say Lateral, just to name a few, should just pack up now !

It's a stupid, ill thought out thread, that does more harm than good.


Mark.

chrisUK300

iTrader: (10)

I think RE Motorsport and Pennine Subaru might disagree with you there mate