Apparently its illegal to have an under inflated spare
18 September 2008, 02:17 PM
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Apparently its illegal to have an under inflated spare
I friend of mine got pulled over for speeding and the Policeman took 45 minutes going over the whole car and when he checked the spare it was under inflated and that was illegal.
I have just checked mine and it was 1.95 bar instead of 4.137 (60PSi)
I have just checked mine and it was 1.95 bar instead of 4.137 (60PSi)
18 September 2008, 02:23 PM
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What rubbish. My old 944 has late-type spacesaver tyre. This is completely flat and it needs inflating before use. Of course, there is no legal requirement to carry a spare.....
The only way to deal with clowns like this is to make a formal complaint. If everyone did then we'd end up with a lot more Dixon of Dock Greens and fewer bullied bill-no-mates from school trying to get their own back on the world.
The only way to deal with clowns like this is to make a formal complaint. If everyone did then we'd end up with a lot more Dixon of Dock Greens and fewer bullied bill-no-mates from school trying to get their own back on the world.
18 September 2008, 02:27 PM
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What did the copper do? As far as i knew this isn't an offence unless it is actually fitted to the car. Stowed it is fine.
Be worth a fight!
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18 September 2008, 02:41 PM
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From the AA website though:
Spare tyre
There is no legal obligation to carry a spare tyre and it does not have to comply with the legal requirements while it is stowed away. However, when fitted to the vehicle (for example, following a puncture) it must then comply with the law. A spare tyre is not a testable item in the MOT test, though the examiner may draw your attention to an unserviceable item as a matter of courtesy.
I looked it up as i always thought it did have to be legal but this says only when on the car.
Taking the spare out used to be a good trick with dealers when they do their "full check" on the car at a service. You used to get a tick sheet showing they'd looked at everything and if they'd ticked "spare tyre ok" lifting the cover to show it was missing was a great way of getting freebies.
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Spare tyre
There is no legal obligation to carry a spare tyre and it does not have to comply with the legal requirements while it is stowed away. However, when fitted to the vehicle (for example, following a puncture) it must then comply with the law. A spare tyre is not a testable item in the MOT test, though the examiner may draw your attention to an unserviceable item as a matter of courtesy.
I looked it up as i always thought it did have to be legal but this says only when on the car.
Taking the spare out used to be a good trick with dealers when they do their "full check" on the car at a service. You used to get a tick sheet showing they'd looked at everything and if they'd ticked "spare tyre ok" lifting the cover to show it was missing was a great way of getting freebies.
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18 September 2008, 03:52 PM
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Problem is if he was being done for speeding at the time it's probably worth going into grovel mode in an effort to get off. Also if he sticks in an official complaint the copper could then decide to press for a court hearing for the offence rather than a fixed penalty or change it to something like without due care and attention....
18 September 2008, 03:59 PM
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That rather sums up the state of the problem, doesnt it?
I would suspect that if this constable had enough evidence to consider another offence, then he wouldnt have taken 45 minutes to examine a car and only come up with this non-offence.
By writing to the CC I would imagine that further action by the constable concerned would be prevented...
I would suspect that if this constable had enough evidence to consider another offence, then he wouldnt have taken 45 minutes to examine a car and only come up with this non-offence.
By writing to the CC I would imagine that further action by the constable concerned would be prevented...
18 September 2008, 04:04 PM
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You'd be surprised just how much else is like that for an MOT, my dad had a faulty seatbelt in his old car and the guy who was doing the MOT told him just to remove it as it is a failure if the seat belt is faulty but not if there isn't a seatbelt!! Same with windscreens, it is illegal to drive with a broken one, but legal to drive without one at all! Nuts eh.
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18 September 2008, 04:48 PM
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Quite right.
I also go to a local meet in MK and 9 times out of 10 there are police there, checking for this that and the other. They even bring down a community neighborhood support van full of officers and there is no houses in sight
I also go to a local meet in MK and 9 times out of 10 there are police there, checking for this that and the other. They even bring down a community neighborhood support van full of officers and there is no houses in sight
18 September 2008, 10:06 PM
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Funny; thats not what the AA website clearly states.
As Ive already posted, the spare in my car is intended to be carried fully deflated, making a nonsense of this arguement.
As Ive already posted, the spare in my car is intended to be carried fully deflated, making a nonsense of this arguement.
18 September 2008, 10:25 PM
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Whenever I've had an inflated spare I always made sure it was a few psi over the highest pressure of any of the four tyres on the car so I could adjust it down to the correct pressure after fitting it and to make sure it could still meet that pressure after spending a year in the boot with no one looking at it!
And, yes, the AA advice is correct otherwise those of us carrying spares that need to be inflated just at the roadside would all be breaking the law.
And, yes, the AA advice is correct otherwise those of us carrying spares that need to be inflated just at the roadside would all be breaking the law.
18 September 2008, 10:26 PM
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A spare what spare
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18 September 2008, 10:36 PM
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No it isnt! You can have one spare, no spare, or five spares and they can be in any condition you like. Its only relevant when you fit it to the damned car.
I still have a can of tyre weld, but Ive re-fitted the (totally deflated and folded up on itself, as manufactured and 100% legal) spare and the jack in order to add a little weight back into the rear of the car. It was starting to look like a 911 with the engine removed...
I still have a can of tyre weld, but Ive re-fitted the (totally deflated and folded up on itself, as manufactured and 100% legal) spare and the jack in order to add a little weight back into the rear of the car. It was starting to look like a 911 with the engine removed...
18 September 2008, 10:50 PM
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