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Old 04 June 2008, 08:22 PM
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hey there this is my first post im looking at buying an impreza wrx sti but people keep telling horror stories about them blowing up being unreliable,and i wouldnt get much more than a 100 miles out of 50 quids worth of petrol,im on a budget of 3000k so i no im not gona get a mint one but surely it cant be as bad as what iv bin told,any advice would be great.
Old 04 June 2008, 08:25 PM
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people tell some dark tales about the impreza but they arent all that bad
just inspect it well before u buy and dont buy the first one you look at
Old 04 June 2008, 09:35 PM
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Originally Posted by nath13
hey there this is my first post im looking at buying an impreza wrx sti but people keep telling horror stories about them blowing up being unreliable,and i wouldnt get much more than a 100 miles out of 50 quids worth of petrol,im on a budget of 3000k so i no im not gona get a mint one but surely it cant be as bad as what iv bin told,any advice would be great.
Don't think you're gonna get much of an STi full stop for 3k. On the bright side you should see 200 or so miles for your 50 notes
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Old 04 June 2008, 09:39 PM
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The earlier STi's (version 1+2) are a little more reliable than the later models. This is because when they were released Japan didnt have the 100+ron fuel that it has now so therefore cope better with the 99 ron fuel that we get in this country!
Old 04 June 2008, 10:06 PM
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if i cant get much of an sti for 3k whats the best one to go for a wrx or the 2000turbo
Old 04 June 2008, 10:15 PM
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wrx mate,more standard power & better spec
Old 04 June 2008, 10:20 PM
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Originally Posted by nath13
hey there this is my first post im looking at buying an impreza wrx sti but people keep telling horror stories about them blowing up being unreliable,and i wouldnt get much more than a 100 miles out of 50 quids worth of petrol,im on a budget of 3000k so i no im not gona get a mint one but surely it cant be as bad as what iv bin told,any advice would be great.
Hi there mate.. You shouldnt listen to the horrors people being telling you because ive had till know at least 10 subaru's and havent blown a engine on any of them... You wouldnt blow the engine if you warm the engine before you drive and cool it after you have used it and change the oil every 3,000miles you should be alright.. i think you should get your self a nice uk spec classic wrx the insurance would be cheaper is well... i got a W reg for sale if your intrested let me know
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I would look at a WRX over a uk2000 but others will say differently. My STI3 cost me Just over 5k although It is in nice condition, but 6 months on I have already spent circa £2300 on work done.
Not cheap cars but then they are not the average yoke , 200 plus miles from a tank is easily done and 250 if you drive like miss Daisy.
Dont rush into it and budget for insurance and servicing, plenty around for sale at the moment so look at a few and you should get a good un.
(also budget for the upgrades you will end up wanting to do, its never ending)
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Originally Posted by marv wrx
wrx mate,more standard power & better spec
cheers for that mate what sort of things should i be looking out for dont wana buy a nail
Old 04 June 2008, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by marv wrx
wrx mate,more standard power & better spec
And the wrong Speedo, wrong odometer, wrong filler tube, wrong rear lights, history will be in Japanese, more expensive to insure, etc.

The WRX does have more standard power than the UK Turbo, but all you have to do to change that is to insert a remapped chip into the ECU at a cost of around £200.00
Old 04 June 2008, 10:23 PM
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Originally Posted by nath13
if i cant get much of an sti for 3k whats the best one to go for a wrx or the 2000turbo
The STI is a WRX Japanese home market model, the 2000 Turbo is a UK car: there were no UK 'STI' Classics. Beware that virtually ALL early series cars advertised as STIs are no such thing.

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Originally Posted by NLS_2008
Hi there mate.. You shouldnt listen to the horrors people being telling you because ive had till know at least 10 subaru's and havent blown a engine on any of them... You wouldnt blow the engine if you warm the engine before you drive and cool it after you have used it and change the oil every 3,000miles you should be alright.. i think you should get your self a nice uk spec classic wrx the insurance would be cheaper is well... i got a W reg for sale if your intrested let me know
alrite mate how much you asking for it
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Originally Posted by GC8
The STI is a WRX Japanese home market model, the 2000 Turbo is a UK car: there were no UK 'STI' Classics. Beware that virtually ALL early series cars advertised as STIs are no such thing.

Simon
Good point. But you can find out its true identity with the Applied Model Code. Deffo check this before you buy. If the seller is genuine they won't mind the short wait. Trust nobody when buying a car Mate....

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You can check the provenance of a V2 STI Saloon using the Applied Model Code, not the chassis number and all V3 STIs onwards. The V2 STI 'Wagon and the initial STI Saloon & 'Wagon used standard WRX AMNs and cant be so simply verified.

That said, a few good pictures here will enable the OPs mind to be set at rest (or his worst suspicions confirmed...).

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Old 04 June 2008, 10:54 PM
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Three scooby's and seven years later, and no problems, just make sure you check it out fully first and pay a fair price
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im selling mine due to a work situation if your interested...

https://www.scoobynet.com/private-sa...-sale-p-x.html

just to add the above...

uk classic models (94-00) generally have better history, are group 17 not 20 insurance and obviously already mapped for uk fuel. admittedly wrx/sti imports of the same era have more power, but you need to be more careful when buying one to make sure the works been done to run it in the uk.

ive had both and prefer my current car^^
Old 04 June 2008, 10:58 PM
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Id keep it if I were you Andy. Do anything you can to avoid selling your assets...
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Originally Posted by nath13
alrite mate how much you asking for it
the car is going for 4,500 o.n.o but it has plenty mods on it... if you would like to come see car let me know
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im even more confused now so what everybody is saying is the best bet is to go for a 2000 turbo and i should get more for my 3k
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You wouldnt blow the engine if you warm the engine before you drive and cool it after you have used it and change the oil every 3,000miles you should be alright..
Complete and utter tosh!!!!
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Originally Posted by GC8
Id keep it if I were you Andy. Do anything you can to avoid selling your assets...
teied to send you pm but cant
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so the best thing for me to do is try and get a good 2000turbo for my 3k i know its not alot but hey thats all i can afford anybody selling in that price range
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
teied to send you pm but cant
Rectified. If its another picture of you naked then Im going to be upset.....
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Originally Posted by dan83590
And the wrong Speedo, wrong odometer, wrong filler tube, wrong rear lights, history will be in Japanese, more expensive to insure, etc.

The WRX does have more standard power than the UK Turbo, but all you have to do to change that is to insert a remapped chip into the ECU at a cost of around £200.00
wtf yeah & get a bigger turbo,injectors witch you would be looking at another £300 second hand

if you pays £80 for polour performance chip for the wrx you can run 97 ron & have some where around 270/280 brake wrx import all the way

as for insurance wrx are a group 17,uk 2000 are a group 20 aint they

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Originally Posted by marv wrx
wtf yeah & get a bigger turbo,injectors witch you would be looking at another £300 second hand

if you pays £80 for polour performance chip for the wrx you can run 97 ron & have some where around 270/280 brake wrx import all the way

as for insurance wrx are a group 17,uk 2000 are a group 20 aint they
Nope turbo 2000's are grp17 and all imports are grp 20 ins!

The early wrx's/sti's are not mapped for 100+ ron anyway!!! Didnt have that fuel when the early cars were released, so as long as you get a car without a different ecu then they are fine to run on just 99 ron fuel
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If you are looking to run an impreza on a tight budget then go for an old UK Turbo, easier to check history and cheaper to insure and Tax (at the moment, who knows what the next moves in the taxation set up the Government will dream up!), better at motorway speeds due to gearing. Down sides are slightly slower to 60 and 100, softer set up than the STi (and some under steer) and if something go's t*ts up on a UK turbo then it can be as expensive to get fixed as its bigger meaner brothers! And a UK car can run on normal unleaded if left in standard form.
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my wrx is group 17
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Originally Posted by marv wrx
my wrx is group 17
trust me... its not.

uk classic turbos were all group 17 bar the p1 ltd ed.
all classic wrx/sti's were group 20 regardless of what you say.

so either your insurance company think your car is a uk model, or youve lied to them and told them differently.
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Originally Posted by marv wrx
wtf yeah & get a bigger turbo,injectors witch you would be looking at another £300 second hand

if you pays £80 for polour performance chip for the wrx you can run 97 ron & have some where around 270/280 brake wrx import all the way
You do not need to replace the turbo and injectors to get a UK Turbo to 280. Infact the Injectors on each model are the same, 380's. The chips work in ALL pre 96 cars. You just have to state which model you have when ordering.

UK Turbo has a TD04 turbo, good for no more than 280.

The WRX has a larger TD05, which can be good for around 320.
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You do not need to replace the turbo and injectors to get a UK Turbo to 280. Infact the Injectors on each model are the same, 380's. The chips work in ALL pre 96 cars. You just have to state which model you have when ordering.

UK Turbo has a TD04 turbo, good for no more than 280.

The WRX has a larger TD05, which can be good for around 320.
There is too much tosh being thrown aout on this thread.
Early Uk Turbos had the TD05 (unless it was the wagon) fitted and later ones had the TD04.
UK MY99/00 had 440cc injectors, not 380's.
TD05 can be pushed to 350bhp or there abouts!



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