Another good weekend for the 300+bhp fwd hot hatch drivers
28 March 2008, 01:46 PM
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Another good weekend for the 300+bhp fwd hot hatch drivers
It really makes you wonder why people bother with anything but 4wd for performance vehicles in this country. 
28 March 2008, 01:48 PM
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Maybe they enjoy a challenge? Maybe they don't race their cars on public roads?
28 March 2008, 01:58 PM
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Who mentioned anything about racing on public roads?
Challenges for fwd cars in wet conditions:-
1. Counting how many seconds they can spin there front wheels before they actually move anywhere.
Can anybody think of anymore?
Challenges for fwd cars in wet conditions:-
1. Counting how many seconds they can spin there front wheels before they actually move anywhere.
Can anybody think of anymore?
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28 March 2008, 02:22 PM
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It was GPS confirmed 188mph and if you think I'd do that on a road in mainland UK then you're being naive.
Aren't I right in thinking that a MKV Golf GTi with 'only' 200bhp beat a new WRX round a mostly damp track?
I guess then what the FWD hatch brigade will be doing is outhandling Imprezas.................
Aren't I right in thinking that a MKV Golf GTi with 'only' 200bhp beat a new WRX round a mostly damp track?
I guess then what the FWD hatch brigade will be doing is outhandling Imprezas.................
28 March 2008, 02:25 PM
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5. Playing a game thinking of all the 4wd cars they could had bought for consistantly bad uk weather conditions. Doing this while not going anywhere from wheel spin
28 March 2008, 02:28 PM
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1. you dont understand why people get stuck in the snow
2. you think your car sounds better than a muscle car
3. you hope it rains the day of autocrosses
4. you go faster on the on ramp then you do on the freeway
5. you know what RE92 means and you dont want anything to do with them
6. people ask you to do burnouts and you roll your eyes
7. you forget whats its like to lose traction in a turn
8. you understand that 300 whp is the perfect number
9. you dont notice a difference driving in the rain or on dry
10. you hate that the gas cap doesnt have anywhere to sit, and you dont want it to touch the quarter panel
11. people ask you if the hood scoop does anything
12. you've made fun of a friends bugeye for having neon headlights
13. your bugeye has been made fun of by a friend for having neon headlights
14. you like the color cherry blossom red, but not pink
15. you know what 555 means
16. you look forward to getting coilovers, but springs will do for now
17. when you tell people you put your headlights in the oven to clear them they look at you like your an idiot
18. you concentrate more on the tach then the speedo
19. you think the S202 is the hottest car ever
20. you dont understand why people use BOVs, BPVs work perfect
21. you never get tired of the sound from your exhaust
22. you never want to get a car that isnt a subaru
23. anything more than 18" rims are rediculous
24. you dont mind getting smoked by a cobra, because you know he wouldnt last a second in real conditions (snow, rain, mud)
25. all other imports think they have to prove something to you
26. you dont have a cigarette lighter
27. you know that COBB isnt what corn comes on
28. if you had an STi, the first thing to go would be the wing
29. you know Rota makes good wheels
30. your never done modding your car
31. you dream about getting your car painted flat black
32. everyone breaks their necks staring at your car
33. you hear random engine revs all the time from civics ect
34. you consider yourself a noob even though you've owned your car for a year
35. when you open a car with framed windows when the windows are down, you hit your head on the frame
36. you forgot to swap tension springs when you swapped trunks with someone
37. people think your car is slow cuz you dont lose traction in first
38. you think underglow, neons, and LEDs are so dumb.
39. you log onto Scoobyireland everyday
40. you dont know what real understeer feels like
2. you think your car sounds better than a muscle car
3. you hope it rains the day of autocrosses
4. you go faster on the on ramp then you do on the freeway
5. you know what RE92 means and you dont want anything to do with them
6. people ask you to do burnouts and you roll your eyes
7. you forget whats its like to lose traction in a turn
8. you understand that 300 whp is the perfect number
9. you dont notice a difference driving in the rain or on dry
10. you hate that the gas cap doesnt have anywhere to sit, and you dont want it to touch the quarter panel
11. people ask you if the hood scoop does anything
12. you've made fun of a friends bugeye for having neon headlights
13. your bugeye has been made fun of by a friend for having neon headlights
14. you like the color cherry blossom red, but not pink
15. you know what 555 means
16. you look forward to getting coilovers, but springs will do for now
17. when you tell people you put your headlights in the oven to clear them they look at you like your an idiot
18. you concentrate more on the tach then the speedo
19. you think the S202 is the hottest car ever
20. you dont understand why people use BOVs, BPVs work perfect
21. you never get tired of the sound from your exhaust
22. you never want to get a car that isnt a subaru
23. anything more than 18" rims are rediculous
24. you dont mind getting smoked by a cobra, because you know he wouldnt last a second in real conditions (snow, rain, mud)
25. all other imports think they have to prove something to you
26. you dont have a cigarette lighter
27. you know that COBB isnt what corn comes on
28. if you had an STi, the first thing to go would be the wing
29. you know Rota makes good wheels
30. your never done modding your car
31. you dream about getting your car painted flat black
32. everyone breaks their necks staring at your car
33. you hear random engine revs all the time from civics ect
34. you consider yourself a noob even though you've owned your car for a year
35. when you open a car with framed windows when the windows are down, you hit your head on the frame
36. you forgot to swap tension springs when you swapped trunks with someone
37. people think your car is slow cuz you dont lose traction in first
38. you think underglow, neons, and LEDs are so dumb.
39. you log onto Scoobyireland everyday
40. you dont know what real understeer feels like
Can't wait for the drive home today so I can laugh at all the fwd hot hatches wheel spinning and sliding around. 
28 March 2008, 02:53 PM
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28 March 2008, 02:57 PM
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True must be quite depressing on the Cupra r website. They shouldn't worry to much it's only a couple of months away from British Summertime, and it never rain here then, does it?
28 March 2008, 06:44 PM
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29 March 2008, 09:08 AM
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Technically it is 4wd, the diffs operate like a normal road going car with the power going to the free spinning wheel but once it wheelspins the diff locks out and becomes full time 4wd.
No car can run full time 4wd, the petrol, tyre wear not to mention the risk of damaging the diff's at higher speeds just don't warrant it.
Subaru Basic manual transmissions have a 50/50 center differential with viscous clutch, performance models have a planetary differential with computer regulated lockup. Automatic transmission models have ~45/55 planetary with computer controlled lock up.
No car can run full time 4wd, the petrol, tyre wear not to mention the risk of damaging the diff's at higher speeds just don't warrant it.
Subaru Basic manual transmissions have a 50/50 center differential with viscous clutch, performance models have a planetary differential with computer regulated lockup. Automatic transmission models have ~45/55 planetary with computer controlled lock up.
29 March 2008, 09:12 AM
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At least in the wet a Subaru driver won't be going to fast to have to use their hopeless brakes.
I'd bet a new FWD hot hatch with good tyres can get more grip than a 92 wrx council estate edition with nang kangs on or whatever crap you put on your cars.
The fact remains I'd sooner enjoy the challenge of drivering a powerful RWD car on cup tyres in the wet. Still, that doesn't make for good pub talk does it.
I'd bet a new FWD hot hatch with good tyres can get more grip than a 92 wrx council estate edition with nang kangs on or whatever crap you put on your cars.
The fact remains I'd sooner enjoy the challenge of drivering a powerful RWD car on cup tyres in the wet. Still, that doesn't make for good pub talk does it.
29 March 2008, 09:35 AM
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4WD was basically the original term used to describe all four wheels being driven on early Jeeps and trucks. These systems were not very advanced in that they simply put power to all four wheels, usually after an interior shift lever was moved and/or the vehicle's hubs were manually "locked" by the operator. During this period 4WD was thought of as a purely off-road utility. Today 4WD still refers to vehicles that can opt for two- or four-wheel drive. These vehicles often have a 4WD "low" and "high" setting that can be switched using an interior lever. The "low" setting provides even greater torque for pulling or climbing in an off-road environment. The "high" is useful for slippery on-road situations like packed snow or ice. 4WD also uses a locking center differential to avoid unnecessary slippage between the right and left wheels while off-road.
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At least in the wet a Subaru driver won't be going to fast to have to use their hopeless brakes.
I'd bet a new FWD hot hatch with good tyres can get more grip than a 92 wrx council estate edition with nang kangs on or whatever crap you put on your cars.
The fact remains I'd sooner enjoy the challenge of drivering a powerful RWD car on cup tyres in the wet. Still, that doesn't make for good pub talk does it.
I'd bet a new FWD hot hatch with good tyres can get more grip than a 92 wrx council estate edition with nang kangs on or whatever crap you put on your cars.
The fact remains I'd sooner enjoy the challenge of drivering a powerful RWD car on cup tyres in the wet. Still, that doesn't make for good pub talk does it.
'92wrx council estate edition' hahahahaha
29 March 2008, 09:46 AM
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At least in the wet a Subaru driver won't be going to fast to have to use their hopeless brakes.
I'd bet a new FWD hot hatch with good tyres can get more grip than a 92 wrx council estate edition with nang kangs on or whatever crap you put on your cars.
The fact remains I'd sooner enjoy the challenge of drivering a powerful RWD car on cup tyres in the wet. Still, that doesn't make for good pub talk does it.
I'd bet a new FWD hot hatch with good tyres can get more grip than a 92 wrx council estate edition with nang kangs on or whatever crap you put on your cars.
The fact remains I'd sooner enjoy the challenge of drivering a powerful RWD car on cup tyres in the wet. Still, that doesn't make for good pub talk does it.
it's great having all that power in a fwd drive car ! 'tourqe steer is more challanging than a porsche driver on a subaru forum'
