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Old 22 November 2007, 11:23 AM
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Cool Now THIS is what the new Scoob ought to have been...

Vauxhall Vectra | Auto Express News | News | Auto Express



2.8 litre V6, twin turbo, 300+bhp, satnav as standard with loads of other stuff, nice bodykit, 19" wheels, etc etc.

The Scoob is dead, long live 4wd.

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Old 22 November 2007, 11:24 AM
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I think the new STi lOOks better than that.
Old 22 November 2007, 11:26 AM
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Originally Posted by GazTheHat
I think the new STi lOOks better than that.
Do you drive a focus or a proton, by any chance????

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Old 22 November 2007, 11:40 AM
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bet you a 5er that aint 4wd
Old 22 November 2007, 11:44 AM
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Originally Posted by alcazar
Vauxhall Vectra | Auto Express News | News | Auto Express



2.8 litre V6, twin turbo, 300+bhp, satnav as standard with loads of other stuff, nice bodykit, 19" wheels, etc etc.

The Scoob is dead, long live 4wd.

Alcazar
You need to look at this thread seeing that your on vauxall's side.
https://www.scoobynet.com/other-marq...-new-post.html
Old 22 November 2007, 11:46 AM
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Subaru need to tweek the wrx/sti to keep ahead of the Vectra four wheel drive version, But they are still quicker now regardless.
Old 22 November 2007, 12:04 PM
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Originally Posted by killerscoob
Subaru need to tweek the wrx/sti to keep ahead of the Vectra four wheel drive version, But they are still quicker now regardless.
But, at the end of the day it's STILL a Vauxhall and so's every other car on the road
Old 22 November 2007, 01:07 PM
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£25k for a Vectra? That's STi money, sod that!

Plus my wallet still has nightmares from my 90's dalliances with 4WD Vauxhalls

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Old 22 November 2007, 01:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Norman Dog
But, at the end of the day it's STILL a Vauxhall and so's every other car on the road
Yep, ANOTHER good reason to buy it: parts are relatively cheap and don't have to come in from Japan. It'll be FAR better specced than the STi, there's a dealer in EVERY town, and above all, the engines aren't made of chocolate!

My mate has company Vauxhalls and they never miss a beat. I had a MkII Astra GTE and it didn't, either

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Old 22 November 2007, 01:30 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
bet you a 5er that aint 4wd
Bet you it is.

SAAB are now taking orders for February delivery of its version of the same car, its called the Turbo X : 280 BHP with 400nm Torque 4x4 saloon, Hirsch (SAAB Official Tuners) will also have the ECU flash available ready for delivery which can add if required an additional 35-45 BHP.

Tested 0-60 figures of 5.7 secs.

It uses SAAB's new XWD 4 wheel drive system.

The SAAB is £30K though.


Saab Turbo-X - here it is....

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Old 22 November 2007, 01:38 PM
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Does look good - but I'd be still concerned about the deprecation and attitude of the dealers !! In my eyes worse than subaru - especially the deprecation - Subaru NEED to up their game !

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Old 22 November 2007, 02:01 PM
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The £19,995 WRX looks better than that Vauxhall IMO

I'm driving the WRX on Saturday - see what it goes like??
Old 22 November 2007, 02:06 PM
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If it doesn't have any stupid scoops or spoilers, it could be the next family sized "Q" car.......which the Impreza once was before the wannabees all came along and bought them; ruining the marques "Q-ness"

It ticks the boxes, but it looks expensive compared to how much a VXR8 is costing nearly new. Maybe a bargain if they depreciate to the £15K mark when 2nd hand
Old 22 November 2007, 02:23 PM
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So its the new Cav GSI 4WD ?

Might be a nice car if its anything like a Monaro but i would still prefer a Subaru over Vauxhall
Old 22 November 2007, 03:18 PM
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Originally Posted by rsarjantson
Does look good - but I'd be still concerned about the deprecation and attitude of the dealers !! In my eyes worse than subaru - especially the deprecation - Subaru NEED to up their game !

Richard

Nothing depreciates quicker than a new Subaru, why ? Because they bring out new models every 6 months and in the process f#ck up the residuals of the current style.
As for the dealers they are Champagne drinkers with lemonade money.

The majority dont understand the brand following and give a p#ss poor service led on the whole by IM.
Old 22 November 2007, 03:41 PM
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I can't think of one good thing about a vauxhall. Go on amaze me.

I've had the misfortune to have had friends or g'friends that have had vauxhalls, pile of rotting unreliable badly built ****e, the lot of them.

and no one chavs up a car like vauxhall owners.

get on barryboys.co.uk if you don't believe me.
Old 22 November 2007, 04:49 PM
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I know what you are saying with regard the Chav factor but to be fair the Monaro and the VX range in general are very good and have come on leaps and bounds, the spec list is very impressive and build quality is also very very good.

Most people can also get there hands on a GM discount voucher which makes them even more attractive.
Old 22 November 2007, 05:37 PM
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Originally Posted by austinwrx
I can't think of one good thing about a vauxhall. Go on amaze me.
1. The engines: easily tuned, strong, cheaper than Scoobs for parts, and add-ons.

2. Dealer in every town, (I know, it's NOT a problem if you have a Scoob dealer in YOUR town, but my nearest is 30 miles, or 25miles and £5 to cross the Humber

3. Generally better specced than the equivalent Scoob.

4. Better interior.
Old 22 November 2007, 07:14 PM
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Originally Posted by Tidgy
bet you a 5er that aint 4wd
Well, it will be at first, until it blows a fuse then reverts to fwd and torque steers off the road. Be the best thing for it though - it's V ugly and a Vauxhall
Old 22 November 2007, 07:49 PM
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Can anyone say - Understeer?
Old 22 November 2007, 08:05 PM
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Forgive me but didnt saab take the 4wd, floor plan and engine from the Subaru Impreza a while back? I may be wrong but im sure they did for the American market?
Old 22 November 2007, 08:11 PM
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Are those tail pipes on upside down..?
Old 22 November 2007, 08:20 PM
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Originally Posted by Prasius
Can anyone say - Understeer?
Is there a Scooby driver in this fair land that can't
Old 22 November 2007, 08:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Fred Fredburger
Is there a Scooby driver in this fair land that can't
Ohh.. but a Vauxhall takes it into all sorts of new ditches....

And it ain't going to be fixed by an ARB and some drop links either
Old 22 November 2007, 08:37 PM
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Originally Posted by austinwrx
I can't think of one good thing about a vauxhall. Go on amaze me.

I've had the misfortune to have had friends or g'friends that have had vauxhalls, pile of rotting unreliable badly built ****e, the lot of them.

and no one chavs up a car like vauxhall owners.

get on barryboys.co.uk if you don't believe me.
Iv'e driven a fair few vauxhall vans, astra,corsa,movarno their quite good mate.
Old 22 November 2007, 08:48 PM
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Why do people think a Subaru is so superior to a Vauxhall or a Ford? Don't get me wrong, I love my scoob but are they really that much better anymore?

Maybe a few years ago, but I really think the others are catching up (if not already caught up).

In Japan a Subaru is as common as a Vauxhall or Ford is over here.

That new vauxhall looks like a real contender against the scoob to me.
Old 22 November 2007, 08:50 PM
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as my username suggests ive owned quite a few before i got the subaru,in fact every time somethin breaks thats gonna take ages to fix i can usualy find a decent cheap banger to runabout in like my current 1.4 kreg 200 quid astra 3 dr as my engine decided to spit the dummy (amongst other things) they get a bad rep,usually from people that havent owned one but "their mates said they were crap".Granted there have been a few dogs/problems but thats to be expected with any manufacturer
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It's normally a bog standard Vectra being compared to an STi.

How would a 1.8 GL Impreza fair in a road test against the equal Ford or Vauxhall?
Old 22 November 2007, 08:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Bully3176
Forgive me but didnt saab take the 4wd, floor plan and engine from the Subaru Impreza a while back? I may be wrong but im sure they did for the American market?
yes they did 9-2X and 9-6X.
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