ScoobySpecC

Just thought id say a big hello to everyone on here! Currently I drive an fq340but I fancy a change so i'm on the hunt for a new beast, always liked scoobys and used to have one before the evo, Im thinking that could be my next purchase! I know the new shape is coming out but not really keen on it, a mate of mines got a mazda already dont wanna copy him ha Anyone any clues? I like the sound of the type 25 or the spec c type ra-r what do you guys think?

Mikkel

You've just mentioned 3 of the best IMO. If you have that kind of wedge, perhaps also consider the S204 and the RB320. Personally, I would take any of them

ScoobySpecC

i considered the S204 but I want a more track orientated car really, i like the look of the rb320 but after reading up on it it seems its just a tarted up uk sti.. I know the jap specs are better with the twin scroll turbos!

frayz

iTrader: (7)

RA-R without question, much rarer than the T25 and alot more special IMO.

fred coupe

i got my wr1 a year or so ago and i fell in love with it from the beginning

Mikkel

A track car either the T25 or the RA-R, I'd go for the latter. Neither will disappoint from what I have heard. Not driven either unfortunately.

bluenose172

iTrader: (2)

RA-R, no compromise!!!

Martin2005

How many RA-R are there then?

How does rarer equal better BTW

KJD Mk1

iTrader: (3)

RA-R every time, its a genuine STI factory special model where as the T25 as good as it might be is a car that has been developed by a importer.
Having said that nothing wrong with the T25 I would not say no to one, its a very nice piece of kit.

bluenose172

iTrader: (2)

Depends what your preference is, I'd always go with the most hardcore, as nice as the S204/Type 25 is I'd always go for the RA/RA-R.

Martin2005

I don't understand how the RA-R is more hardcore than a 415BHP+ type25

bluenose172

iTrader: (2)

Good point, I always forget the new one is based on the Spec C shell. Still be the RA-R for me.

frayz

iTrader: (7)

Anyone can go buy a t25, the RA-R is much more difficult to find and loads more special IMO.

You have a T25 so will always say its better, regardless lol

Martin2005

I don't know enough about the RA-R to say which is better, but outside the Subaru community the T25 has serious qudos

frayz

iTrader: (7)

Indeed it does but then it does have a 10k engine in it.

The T25 is a tuners car, not the genuine article like the STI. For that reason alone i feel the T25 cant compete with the RA-R on qudos.

Jeff Stryker

Not knocking them, but at the end of the day the T25 is just a modified scooby. RA-R would be my choice without question

Martin2005

Using that arguement is a bit daft, the reason the T25 was developed was because Subaru couldn't come up with something comparable/better, besides isn't an RA-R just a modified STI?

Apologies if this is shows my general ignorance of RA cars

frayz

iTrader: (7)

Its a bit like comparing a Hannman or AC Schnitzer built BMW and one built especially by M. The M one will always be more desired as its the genuine articale.

miff13

I'm clearly in the minority as I'd pick the type 25 but then I'm not bothered whether it's a true Subaru or not, IMO it's a better car.

Martin2005

Well I suspect we're not going to agree (not sure I really disagree that much anyway)

I think it's a bit of a stretch comparing BMW Mdivision with STI though

Anyway my T25 is running like a pig at the moment, so I'm not too pleased with any Subaru at the right now

Andy-pay

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Anyway my T25 is running like a pig at the moment, so I'm not too pleased with any Subaru at the right now [/QUOTE]

pain! any ideas what it is? is it due to be looked at (and hopefully) fixed?

Martin2005

Well it's not the MAF sensor cos I've just forked out £300 and that didn't sort it

So I suspect it's the bloody Lamba now, bloody Subarus, they're a damn money pit

Andy-pay

hope that sorts it!

300quid for a MAF though!

juggers

iTrader: (1)

You can't compare the Type 25 to an all out factory tuned sti the ra-r is the genuine article. I would have an RA-R over a type 25 but my view might be biased

How ever the T25 is an awesome machine and if i were looking for a tuned car to save myself a lot of hassle i would be knocking on litchfields door.

MikeyTang

iTrader: (4)

Maybe you sud consider whether u can get your hands on a RA-R. Being as rare as they are it mite be a problem.

Terminator X

iTrader: (7)

Don't be Martin as we all know the T25 is an amazing car! I'd have either one if I could fecking afford it

TX.

ScoobySpecC

Looks like most people are going for the ra-r, tbh I was thinking the same as as people say the type 25 can be built by anyone, saves a lot of hassle mind you. Ive seen a ra-r for sale on litchfields site and heard few good things about them so think ill give them a call, no pics on there tho? Also seen a yellow one and a white one for sale on pistonheads through company called PCM, not heard much about them before, are they new? has anyone ever dealt with them?

Martin2005

Not sure what you mean by anyone could build a T25, I'm sure Litchfield/Powerstaion might have something to say about that!

frayz

iTrader: (7)

With all due respect, it is just a spec C with a a cossie long block and an MD321 derived turbo. The ASTs are easily available and so are the Porsche brakes.

Incase ive missed something, theres not much else to the T25. Yes its a great package and works very well indeed but its not an RA-R

ScoobySpecC

from my understanding the first type 25 is just a spec c with a 2.5 bottom end and ast suspension,remap and a 3" turbo back exaust. These parts are widely available. However the new Type25 is no where near as simple,from looking at the website it has a forged cosworth engine,ast suspension,hybrid turbo and a remap and exhaust, again these parts can all be bought.. Im not saying I could do it and all praise to the guys that have done it!! The T25 is an awesome car!