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Old 10 August 2007, 10:57 PM
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I am considering swapping my Vortex afterburner b/b for a Blitz Nur b/b.
How do they compare sound wise on tickover and at high revs, would there be much difference in the noise levels?
Thanks.
Old 10 August 2007, 10:58 PM
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I have a NINJA and, I can honestly say, it's probably the best compromise - lovelly idle burble but not booming on a run.
Old 10 August 2007, 10:59 PM
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I have a NINJA and, I can honestly say, it's probably the best compromise - lovelly idle burble but not booming on a run.
Doesn't it annoy the neighbours early in the morning/ late at night Pete ?
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I have a NINJA and, I can honestly say, it's probably the best compromise - lovelly idle burble but not booming on a run.
Bit abrasive for you Pete, I thought you'd be happy with the standard peashooter?
Old 10 August 2007, 11:00 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I have a NINJA and, I can honestly say, it's probably the best compromise - lovelly idle burble but not booming on a run.
Swapping all those parts that Subaru spent so much time and money developing for some nonsense aftermarket stick on bits? I'm disappointed in you Mr Lewis, I truely am.


Old 10 August 2007, 11:01 PM
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**** me, it's crowded in 'ere !!
Old 10 August 2007, 11:02 PM
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what can I say - great minds think alike
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I have a NINJA and, I can honestly say, it's probably the best compromise - lovelly idle burble but not booming on a run.
Jesus.............have you got the modding bug finally?
Old 10 August 2007, 11:03 PM
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I still have the pea-shooter available .........

But, I must admit to enjoying the burble at idle with the Ninja - and it really isn't loud (remember I do NOT push the engine over 3000 RPM)
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Originally Posted by bob r
Jesus.............have you got the modding bug finally?

Shhhhh - he's on the phone to Bob Rawle right now !!
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I draw the line at a BackBox ..................

Getting LV to accept it on the Insurance was a major bloody task!!! Imagine if I had done something really stupid, like a Re-Map!!
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I draw the line at a BackBox ..................

Getting LV to accept it on the Insurance was a major bloody task!!! Imagine if I had done something really stupid, like a Re-Map!!

Yeah, imagine having better mpg, wouldn't that be awful.
Old 10 August 2007, 11:11 PM
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Better mpg????

There is only ONE way to achieve better mpg and that is to burn LESS fuel.

Burning LESS fuel gives LESS power ..... yeah, riiiiiiiight, sounds a good idea
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Originally Posted by pslewis
Better mpg????

There is only ONE way to achieve better mpg and that is to burn LESS fuel.

Burning LESS fuel gives LESS power ..... yeah, riiiiiiiight, sounds a good idea
Or perhaps remaps, decats etc simply result in greater efficiency, better than even the almighty Subaru with their millions could come up with.
Old 10 August 2007, 11:21 PM
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(Sorry Bob - you knew none of us could resist)

Tell you what would improve your fuel economy Pete - buy a car without a turbo on it. Seeing as you apparently never drive over 3000rpm you never use the bloody thing anyhow.
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I see - you mean take the vehicle outside the legal parameters???

Well, that just won't do!!
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Originally Posted by pslewis
I see - you mean take the vehicle outside the legal parameters???

Well, that just won't do!!
Go on Pete, "expand".
Old 11 August 2007, 08:45 AM
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OK, for the challenged ..... Subaru WOULD extract 500BHP and get 60mpg if they could - agree??

So, the only thing to get more mpg / more power is to either drink more fuel or to ignore emission regulations ......

You are plain daft if you think that a mapper on here knows more about mapping an Impreza than Subaru do themselves

THEREFORE, the mapper MUST do something that is NOT good for the engine OR ignore emission regulations OR not care about long term reliability ...... there is NO free lunch!!

It is painfully simple ..........

Understand now?
Old 11 August 2007, 08:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Prasius
(Sorry Bob - you knew none of us could resist)

Tell you what would improve your fuel economy Pete - buy a car without a turbo on it. Seeing as you apparently never drive over 3000rpm you never use the bloody thing anyhow.
Ditto.
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Old 11 August 2007, 11:08 AM
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*must rise above being baited into another topic where pslewis is wrong.. *

All I'll say is, production tolerances.

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Old 11 August 2007, 11:22 AM
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and the difference between a vortex and blitz is? ...............................
Old 11 August 2007, 01:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Luckyscoob
and the difference between a vortex and blitz is? ...............................
Thats why there is a part 2.
Old 11 August 2007, 01:39 PM
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Originally Posted by pslewis
OK, for the challenged ..... Subaru WOULD extract 500BHP and get 60mpg if they could - agree??

So, the only thing to get more mpg / more power is to either drink more fuel or to ignore emission regulations ......

You are plain daft if you think that a mapper on here knows more about mapping an Impreza than Subaru do themselves

THEREFORE, the mapper MUST do something that is NOT good for the engine OR ignore emission regulations OR not care about long term reliability ...... there is NO free lunch!!

It is painfully simple ..........

Understand now?

Or perhaps not all engines are identical, the same fuels aren't available around the world, so Subaru's (less expensive on mass production) generic map is not as good as custom map for that partictular vehicle ?
Old 11 August 2007, 02:16 PM
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
Or perhaps not all engines are identical, the same fuels aren't available around the world, so Subaru's (less expensive on mass production) generic map is not as good as custom map for that partictular vehicle ?
Your not possibly suggesting that every Impreza engine isn't balanced, blue-printed and hand built are you? And that the ECU map isn't programmed for each and every single engine individually? I'm shocked, I truely am.
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Originally Posted by bob r
Thats why there is a part 2.
Yep, just spotted that one
Old 11 August 2007, 07:03 PM
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
Or perhaps not all engines are identical, the same fuels aren't available around the world, so Subaru's (less expensive on mass production) generic map is not as good as custom map for that partictular vehicle ?
game... set... match mr jock
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
game... set... match mr jock
I'm Scottish - I fecking hate cricket !

But "LOL", nonetheless !!

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