Phildodd06

The Impreza has 311 bhp and the Porshe is standard @ 320 bhp i think.
Which would win in..

1. 0-60
2. 0-100
3 60-100
4. Quarter mile
5. round a track

My cousin has 1 and i have been telling him my Impreza would be faster etc etc, but i dont wanna go saying to much incase im wrong

sandyRS16i

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straight line 0-100 the scooby.....i have an STi 5 RA so same as the R, came off a roundabout 1 car length behind, but thru 3rd and 4th pulled past the porker to be about 1/2 to 1 length ahead before changing into 5th at circa 100mph.....so from experience id say the scooby would have it thru the gears up to the 100 mark.....after that the porsche will go away as the 5th gear is long on these scoobs so i find it feels like the ratio is too far from 4th as the acceration tails off rapidly

quarter mile again the scoob, AWD grip and crosses the line about 100mph in low 13's and a track teh scoob would again own it due to the superior acceleration and grip.....

overall Scooby 5 Porker 0

matchmaker

You are surely deluded............does Carrera 4 not mean anything?

So for grip, the Scooby has no advantage. As for on a track...

wall

If you are talking about the current 4S (by the way Sandy, 4 stands for 4wd...), assuming same skill driver, it will beat any (not seriously modified) Impreza, be it Sti, WRX, JDM, EU, ecc, in any race (accelleration, twisties, road, track, ecc).

Been in my uncle's, and the performance is just leagues beyond my present and past cars (Sti, R32, Elise, ecc) ... as it should be, given the price ...

Wall

finchyboy

Ask 911 he own's both i think.
I think sometimes due to our enthusiasm for the humble scooby we can often overestimate it's abilities. Realistically i think the scooby would loose in just about every department especially around the track. In my opinion there's no disgrace in that. The fact that 5 or 6 grands worth of sti 5 can get close to a 70 grand supercar is unbelievable !!!

lightning101

The Carrera S model is capable of going 0 to 60mph in as little as 3.9 seconds, and carries a top speed of 300 km/h (186 mph) and four wheel drive.

355 hp @ 6600 rpm, 3.8L wet-sump.

Trout

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I got better 1/4 mile times in my old 993 Carrera 2 compared to my standard Sti V.

It was close mind you. The Porsche was also faster over a standing mile.

Cross country the STi was faster.

A new Carrera 4s is a very fast car and a standard STi V Type R would struggle to keep up given similar driver capability.

TonyBurns

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Porsche quote 4.8 to 60 though thats probably quicker than that, approx 350bhp and 295lbs of torque, top end of 178mph, dont think you have much of a chance against one, its a real performance car

Tony

scoobyboy1

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I think "911" is a 70s Porsche 911 which is not really a fair comparrision to the newer 911's.

Im pretty sure that the 911 carrera 4 S has 360bhp where as the normal 911 carrera 4 has 325bhp and with the Porsche's better top end which is around the 170mph mark I think you would struggle. But its nothing to be ashamed about as his car cost nearly £70k.

Most supercars would have you at the top end anyway, so better find a nice road where there's a few bends in so that he cant get upto top speed!!!!

Gav

Porker every day of the week....

gpssti4

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I looked to change my Sti4 Type R for a 993 C4. The 993 was nearly as quick, no turbo lag, great handling etc. In the end I stayed with my Type R as it 'felt' quicker.

So, it depends on which year 911, if a 996C4 or later, I'd say the Porker, if an early 911, then the Type R.

what would scooby do

On standard suspension set ups the porker will win on a circuit anyday.

rossi_p

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Porker in all respects.

Remember, you're talking about a car that has decades of development and is THE benchmark for all sportscars.

It is also £70k worth of car!!

Credit to the Scoob that it would actually keep in touch with the 911!

Type-R

I can give a first hand account

As I had a little play with a 450bhp tuned C4S (view my scooby for mine 2.5 450/390)

His exact comments were " I normally eat Scoobies, so I take it your car is not standard"

Straight Line acceleration was about just about equal but he could not accelerate past me up to the speed we reached.

My opinion would be C4S in standard trim is more than a match for a non-tuned impreza - add the tuning factor then it swings it the Imprezas favour !

Martin2005

On a track brakes will be a HUGE factor in favour of the Porsche

The Chief

Normally i'd say definetely the 911 but it all depends on the circumstances and that goes for the track as well.

remember a Classic weighs in miles less than a 911, and a classic pushing over 300 (genuine) bhp will be quite a weapon especially if it has uprated brakes and suspension.

the 911 will be better as higher speeds aproach.

check out this vid and lap times and this is a 911 turbo pushing 420bhp+ against a new age and supposedley slower modded STI (around 360ish)

http://www.scoobysmacs.co.uk/Videos/Donnington.wmv

Ok the 911 is quicker but not by much - just proof a Subaru in the right hands can punch well above its weight.

billythekid

C4 is a 3.6 and it has 325bhp.
C4S is a 3.8 with 365bhp.

Power kit (£8200 option) takes the S to approx 400bhp. Porsche litereature states 380bhp but I have heard its quite a bit more as its basically a full monty conversion including heads, ecu, exhaust, induction etc etc.

TonyBurns

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The classic is also an aerodynamic brick so hence you look at the figures for 0-100 for a classic STi (300bhp supposedly ) and then that for a new age STi with PPP, nothing in it, considering its heavier

Tony

TonyBurns

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Good vid though porker wasted the STi sorry to say, just look at it go on the straights, the STi would have needed another 100bhp to be up with it....

Tony

The Chief

it was 2 seconds a lap quicker tbh.

not bad for an STI with 60bhp+ less

Phildodd06

Just for the record the Porshe is a 53 plate and standard.
It has ceramic breaks, and yes its the 4 wheel drive version as stated above.
Its basically the turbo but with no turbo.

the Type-r was rolling roaded at 311bhp.

Around the track and top end id of thought mysef the 911 would be better, as they handle superbly and have the awsome breaks.

He told the 0-60 on his is meant to be 4.9, and i read the type-r is meant to do it in 4.3, is this right? lighter car and close ratio box....

TonyBurns

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Your falling into the p2w ratio trap here.
its not about weight and gear ratio's, there is more to it than that, look at the aerodynamics for instance, the torque and power delivery.
That type R of yours has 311bhp with what mods? full decat exhaust and filter? plus a remap for it? that porker is 350+ out of the box without being messed with plus its not a brick
Your 0-60 may be quicker due to closer ratios, but hes going to be knocking a good second off your 0-100 time, even with 311bhp and he will keep on going

Tony

matchmaker

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He told the 0-60 on his is meant to be 4.9, and i read the type-r is meant to do it in 4.3, is this right? lighter car and close ratio box....[/]

In the real world 0-60 times are unrealistic. In order to achieve the quoted times you'd have to be very mechanically unsympathetic. And when I see 0-60 times quoted to two decimal places

boxsterboy

I had a 997 S before my T25 mate. A 997 does 0 - 60 4.1 and 0 - 100 in 10.2 Look here Porsche 911 Carrera S - - Car and Driver - November 2004

Proper quick car!

Steve Whitehorn

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Crude generalisation
Impreza - quicker low down through the gears and quicker on every day roads in all conditions with some bends thrown in.
911 - Quicker at the top end on the autobahn and on the track - esp on big high speed sweeping bends-far more composed.
They are chalk and cheese - they both do different things very well.

finchyboy

It depends on the circumstances ? In every circumstance the 911 would trounce an sti 5 and a new age come to that. You don't see porsche owners fitting Impreza brakes as an upgrade do you

Terminator X

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Why on earth do you say that similar power if the 911 is 320bhp (I've no idea), both 4wd & the Scoob must be lighter (?). JDM STi's are about 300bhp remember. After 100mph then agree probably true as the Scoob is then fairly slow whilst Porsche would keep pulling.

I know which one I'd rather own though as a GT3 is my dream machine

TX.

Terminator X

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Porsche are notorious for their conservative 0-60 times though ...

TX.

Ian Cook

Whats the kerb weight of a STi 5? think its about 1400kg the 996 C4S is approx 1320 Kg so the scoob may actually be heavier

Mikkel

Let's get real here, we are talking about £70k worth of sports car up against a 10 year old sports saloon not worth a quarter of that. If you can keep up it is a compliment to Subaru.

Now buy an RB320 and put £40k into it and you have a fairer comparison.