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Old 25 May 2007, 11:09 PM
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scoobs being repaired and im having the wheels refurbed too - view my scooby for some simple pics. thing is the locking nuts had to be cut off (two each wheel - previous owner lol) as i lost the keys one night.

so id like opinions/links for locking nuts (one per wheel)

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opnions links on what normal nuts to replace the tired old silver ones. thinking of the neat ones where the nut key fits inside, but im not sure where to look. i dont wanna pay o.t.t. prices for "genuine" articles etc, just something that looks nice and new to complement the wheels.

so...
  • what locking nuts to go for and links if possible...
  • what normal nuts to go for (16 needed), links and colour opinions.
cheers ladies and gents

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Old 25 May 2007, 11:43 PM
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found some red/black jobbies on the net, and considering which to go for. good price but is it the red or the black

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Old 25 May 2007, 11:57 PM
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get some rays bolts for £80.
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Originally Posted by harry007
get some rays bolts for £80.
just won some off a well known auction site...

item np. was 290118865129

£23.69 for a full set. in black ive opted for.

just need locking nuts now, preferably black, but open to opnion i guess.

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Old 27 May 2007, 11:20 PM
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I went for McGuard locking nuts, seem to do the job.
Old 27 May 2007, 11:24 PM
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I wouldnt waste your time with locking wheel nuts.. they can be removed in seconds by anyone with the know how and you only cause your self **** ache when you lose the key... Get a tilt sensor for your alarm if your worried!

The UK turbo i bought recently didnt come with the key for the locking nuts.. this is how easy they were to remove:

YouTube - How to remove a locking wheel nut
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You cant remove the later-type McGuards, you do need two per wheel though.
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You mean the round ones with the fried egg pattern in the middle, like this:



30 seconds!

And you should never use more than one per wheel because they shouldnt be torqued up..
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Originally Posted by [Davey]
I wouldnt waste your time with locking wheel nuts.. they can be removed in seconds by anyone with the know how and you only cause your self **** ache when you lose the key... Get a tilt sensor for your alarm if your worried!

The UK turbo i bought recently didnt come with the key for the locking nuts.. this is how easy they were to remove:

YouTube - How to remove a locking wheel nut
Surely this method wouldn't work on the McGuard locking nuts which spin in the middle?
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Theres ways around all of them.. most you can get off with a high tensile multi-toothed socket, and the rest just need a tappered threaded socket..
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The newer McGuards have a hardened spinning collar which should prevent this (for the amount of time that someone is prepared to kneel by your car with a hammer and chisel, at least).

Any locking nut is relatively useless if you only fit one per wheel though..... With regards to their not being 'torqued up': Ive just fitted a set to another car (not a Subaru) which has aluminium wheel nuts as standard and the McGuard locking nuts are able to withstand a much higher torque setting.

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Originally Posted by [Davey]
Theres ways around all of them.. most you can get off with a high tensile multi-toothed socket, and the rest just need a tappered threaded socket..

i appreciate your input on this subject davey. the point il try to make is the following. yes it may seem easy to a seasoned professional twoc'er to take the mcgards off within seconds, but if some pikey scum sees one on a wheel, it may make them think twice or put them off compared to not seeing anything to protect your wheels.

its the visual deterance as well as the physical one you see.

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I'd go for the McGuards which have the hardened spinning collar, thats what I've got on mine.
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Originally Posted by ScoobLou
I'd go for the McGuards which have the hardened spinning collar, thats what I've got on mine.

any links? tried to no avail
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
any links? tried to no avail
Give me a sec and I'll have a look
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
any links? tried to no avail
Go to your local dealers Andy. Theyre identical to the ones sold in Halfrauds except for that they come in a clear plastic bag and they cost about £20+ VAT. Make sure you get the newer type with the hardened spinning collar.


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Meant to say I got mine from my local Subaru Dealer, I got them free (long story!), but they had them on the Invoice for £25.
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Originally Posted by Simon 69
Go to your local dealers Andy. Theyre identical to the ones sold in Halfrauds except for that they come in a clear plastic bag and they cost about £20+ VAT. Make sure you get the newer type with the hardened spinning collar.


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have you a pic for me to see what they look like?

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McGard Ultra (SL) Wheel Locks --- McGardLocks.co.uk - Buy McGard Wheels Locks Online (SU) (SL), standard, ultra

found these. assuming these are the newer type ones?

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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
i appreciate your input on this subject davey. the point il try to make is the following. yes it may seem easy to a seasoned professional twoc'er to take the mcgards off within seconds, but if some pikey scum sees one on a wheel, it may make them think twice or put them off compared to not seeing anything to protect your wheels.

its the visual deterance as well as the physical one you see.

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Totally agree with you here, if there are 2 scoobs in your street 1 with McGuards and one without i think they'll pick the easiest one!
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Originally Posted by chocolate_o_brian
They seem to be. The spinners on mine look more a dull steel olive though (plumbing olive that is, not cocktail).....
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Originally Posted by Simon 69
They seem to be. The spinners on mine look more a dull steel olive though (plumbing olive that is, not cocktail).....
ive ended up going for the normal mcgards. my reasoning behind this is if the arseholes want them, theyll have them. performancesubaru.co.uk had them in stock for £29.99 so ive ordered them and also so new prodrive alloy valve caps for £14.95, for my newly refirbed wheels.
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