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Old 24 April 2007, 10:11 PM
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Question Spec C vs 911 turbo ...

No not a race

911T pulled alongside me today (not a new one, would guess the previous version) on M25, both doing about 60mph. He blipped his throttle a few times, looked at me then zoomed off. Fairly fast BTW Could I have kept up if I wanted to?

My car is a MY05 Spec C running about 375bhp & same torque.

TX.
Old 24 April 2007, 10:14 PM
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depends on several things,how near to standard the porker was,and how much you need your licence.
Old 24 April 2007, 10:14 PM
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Why didn't you give it a whirl and, see for youself??

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Old 24 April 2007, 10:16 PM
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At a guess, and being very bias I would think you would keep up for a while, then there would be an ever increasing gap...as the 911T moved forward.

Only a guess though!

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Old 24 April 2007, 10:17 PM
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I think he might of been shocked a little, not saying you`d do him but i`m sure you`d of put the frighners up him..
Old 24 April 2007, 10:22 PM
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Car still cold as only left car park a few mins previous ...

TX.

Originally Posted by Alan MaC
Why didn't you give it a whirl and, see for youself??

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Old 24 April 2007, 10:23 PM
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^^ I'm liking your car Staffi

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Old 24 April 2007, 10:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
^^ I'm liking your car Staffi

TX.

Cheers fella, it`s changed alot in the last 4weeks, that MASSIVE roof vent will be off, new 17`s GRA in gunmeatal....i`m pleased with it..
Old 24 April 2007, 10:29 PM
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no
Old 24 April 2007, 10:31 PM
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I would say up to around 120 there would not have been much in it, after that i would think the porsche would pull away somewhat.

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Old 24 April 2007, 10:35 PM
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Would really be interesting to see how
the two compared handling wise. Never
saw a comparison done by any1. JL
Old 24 April 2007, 10:42 PM
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it has 35 more hp as standard, more if it had porsche's version of the ppp, weigh roughly the same at 1300kg, more slippery body. Hands down to the porsche. They really are ballistic cars.
Old 24 April 2007, 10:49 PM
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The Porsche 996 turbo has 420/450 bhp depending on the model and weighs 1550 kg.

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Old 24 April 2007, 10:54 PM
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Originally Posted by Terminator X

My car is a MY05 Spec C running about 375bhp & same torque.

TX.
What have you had done to achieve those figures?
Old 24 April 2007, 10:57 PM
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Originally Posted by Robocop
What have you had done to achieve those figures?
Look for "view my scooby".
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^^

Decat exhaust (RCM)
Induction kit (RCM)
Uprated fuel pump (Walbro)
Uprated actuator (Turbo Dynamics)
3 port boost solenoid
Bob Rawle remap!

Oh & STi dust caps ...

TX.
Old 24 April 2007, 11:02 PM
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Originally Posted by andythejock01wrx
Look for "view my scooby".
Duh, I didn't see that.
Old 24 April 2007, 11:06 PM
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Better get me some of them dust caps then if I want to keep up.
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Originally Posted by Robocop
Duh, I didn't see that.
Must have been your visor getting in the way robocop.

Spec C - great car. You'd think a modern "911" turbo would do the business once the two really got going. Might take a pretty skilled 911 driver to pull away on the bends though - reckon your average driver couldn't.
Old 25 April 2007, 12:06 AM
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Tried having bit fun with one in my old MY01 WRX and it totally obliterated me! Left for dead by a bloke prob kicking on retirement age. Prompted me to get my STI 8 PPP which scared a few non turbo Porkers. Would reckon 375bhp should worry a 911 Turbo up to 110-120 then the aerodynamics of the Scoob would pull it back.
Old 25 April 2007, 12:52 AM
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Even a lightly modded STI will put the frightners on a 911 Turbo
Old 25 April 2007, 07:11 AM
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Remember the new and recent 911T's are 4 x 4 too.

Many of us have driven fast Impreza's and very few 911's of any sort let alone the turbo, so much of this is conjecture?

My 911 experience is of 19 years of ownership and racing it too, but it is very old and very light (230 bhp/tonne) and my Impreza is 291bhp/tonne. The Sti is miles faster in all respects which is why it is 'retired'

The secret is all in the power to weight, and in this episode the Spec C and the turbo are quite close, for the 911 = 290 bhp/tonne (I think Banni is right with the power and weight, the 99T is very heavy).

When all is said and done there is the performance/£ to consider.

The 911T is 3 x the Spec C or a first house for my daughter...

You don't buy a 911T to chase Impreza's do you?
You buy a Spec C to chase 'fast' cars? Maybe, depends on your attitude.

People buy both because they love them!

You pay your money, and you take your choice. As ever.

Graham

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Old 25 April 2007, 07:20 AM
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Time to pull up a chair sit back, get the popcorn out and enjoy the show


Terminator - fair play for being original ''Car still cold as only left car park a few mins previous'' not heard that one used before''

Nor have I ever had a car come alongside me slow down to my pace, blip it's throttle a couple of times and shoot off
Old 25 April 2007, 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by 911
Remember the new and recent 911T's are 4 x 4 too.

Many of us have driven fast Impreza's and very few 911's of any sort let alone the turbo, so much of this is conjecture?

My 911 experience is of 19 years of ownership and racing it too, but it is very old and very light (230 bhp/tonne) and my Impreza is 291bhp/tonne. The Sti is miles faster in all respects which is why it is 'retired'

The secret is all in the power to weight, and in this episode the Spec C and the turbo are quite close, for the 911 = 290 bhp/tonne (I think Banni is right with the power and weight, the 99T is very heavy).

When all is said and done there is the performance/£ to consider.

The 911T is 3 x the Spec C or a first house for my daughter...

You don't buy a 911T to chase Impreza's do you?
You buy a Spec C to chase 'fast' cars? Maybe, depends on your attitude.

People buy both because they love them!

You pay your money, and you take your choice. As ever.

Graham

wise words from an old head
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Originally Posted by Terminator X

My car is a MY05 Spec C running about 375bhp & same torque.

TX.
Christ on a bike TX 375??

Mine feels fiesty with 340 so that must be an animal....

Still don't think you would have made much impact above 100
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FYI on my return from the lake district a porker 911T wanted to play, so I oblidged, a few times and each time had to back off from hitting the rear bumper.

i've got a STI PPP MY06, all standard running 18's
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Originally Posted by Gutmann pug

Nor have I ever had a car come alongside me slow down to my pace, blip it's throttle a couple of times and shoot off
why would anyone bother doing that to Peugeot FFS???
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Originally Posted by Terminator X
No not a race

911T pulled alongside me today (not a new one, would guess the previous version) on M25, both doing about 60mph. He blipped his throttle a few times, looked at me then zoomed off. Fairly fast BTW Could I have kept up if I wanted to?

My car is a MY05 Spec C running about 375bhp & same torque.

TX.

Yes but the guy with the 911 will earn more money than you. Have a bigger house than you. He'll no doubt have a prettier girlfriend than you (money attracts prettier women) and as said above. He probably didn't buy hit 911 to race Tuned Impreza's.

Plus he won't sound like a Geek when asked what car he drives. Which sound better to the opposite sex?

911 Turbo

or

Subaru Impreza WRX STI Spec C tuned to run 375BHP and the same Torque figure.

Having these cars that can put up a fight to more expensive sports cars are all well and good. However, I'd rather earn his money and have the Porsche, Than say my car can stay with it to 120mph.
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Originally Posted by stilover
Yes but the guy with the 911 will earn more money than you. Have a bigger house than you. He'll no doubt have a prettier girlfriend than you (money attracts prettier women) and as said above. He probably didn't buy hit 911 to race Tuned Impreza's.

Plus he won't sound like a Geek when asked what car he drives. Which sound better to the opposite sex?

911 Turbo

or

Subaru Impreza WRX STI Spec C tuned to run 375BHP and the same Torque figure.

Having these cars that can put up a fight to more expensive sports cars are all well and good. However, I'd rather earn his money and have the Porsche, Than say my car can stay with it to 120mph.

Some good points but...

A bigger house - If so will be with his parents or if his will be some pokey 1 bed flat that he calls an apartment.

Said 911 Turbo is financed up to the hilt via a remortgage and a loan over twenty years.

Bought this because he has a little d*** and is crap in bed and feels he has something to prove.

Pretty girlfriend stays with him because of image of Porker and being a trophy girlfriend yet bonks his best mate who owns a Mondeo due to point above.

Spec C or 911 Turbo


You tell me


Nah, 911 turbo it is
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Originally Posted by stilover
Yes but the guy with the 911 will earn more money than you. Have a bigger house than you. He'll no doubt have a prettier girlfriend than you (money attracts prettier women) and as said above. He probably didn't buy hit 911 to race Tuned Impreza's.

Plus he won't sound like a Geek when asked what car he drives. Which sound better to the opposite sex?

911 Turbo

or

Subaru Impreza WRX STI Spec C tuned to run 375BHP and the same Torque figure.

Having these cars that can put up a fight to more expensive sports cars are all well and good. However, I'd rather earn his money and have the Porsche, Than say my car can stay with it to 120mph.
lol ...doesn't say much when you need a 'fanny magnet' to attract the opposite sex ...& it doesn't say much about the opposite sex attracted either!


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