Davej_Smith

Hi There,

This weeks Autocar quote the new STi type UK as weighing a hefty 1470kg with a power/weight ratio of just 178bhp/tonne, whereas EVO magazine quote the Japanense STi as 1430kg.

I find it hard to belive that European type approval has added over 40kg of weight ?

Anyone here know what the true weight is, as it appears the power/weight ratio is no better than a standard MY00 although the performance figures quoted suggest otherwise.

wilf

1470 according to Subaru brochure

Adam M

does anyone smell anything?

Ahh my poor old shape, only an anorexic 1230kg. Must fatten her up to be in line with the precious newer better version.

john banks

http://www.subaru.co.uk/sti/specs.htm website originally said 1370 now it says 1470! I know because we discussed this in a thread a few weeks back. Wonder which is the correct figure? Certainly is a bit more than the old UK spec 1235kg even if it does have 50bhp more (on SUL vs UL) so similar PWR on SUL??

Reffro

Yep 1470kg in the Subaru press release too.

RB5SCOTT

I thought the 01's were 1380kg. I have found a couple of flaws in the autocar article

330 brembo's, try 305 brembo's
wheels up to 17's from 17's tyre size up maybe

john banks

Seems odd that the STi would weight 90kg more than the WRX? The odd diff, bigger brake disc and suede can't be that much can it? 225 vs 215 tyres from the looks of it.

[Edited by john banks - 12/12/2001 6:32:42 PM]

Sam Elassar

the standard sti weighs 1430kg so you would expect the UK sti to wiegh a bit more due to the different diffs, and probably the big fat cat that it will be fitted with to make it pass the emissions.

but another 40kg is a bit excessive i think

sam

WRX.

Apparently they added more safety features to the front of the chassis, reengineered it in some way and thats what is giving the majority of the extra weight.

Sam Elassar

**** ME !!!!!!! more weight and less power hang on to your MY00s boys and girls, it is going to be slow!!!!

RB5SCOTT

Does this mean that i don't have to sell my overpriced, under equipped UK300 now

288bhp 266lb torque and around 208bhp/ton Eat my dust STI. I just have to get the real WRC carbon fibre spoiler now,a snip at £1400

mind you i would still love one,

Scott

Great~taste~Bloke

Simlar power to weight as a std My00 turbo. Glad I got the P1 last month!
LOL
Matthew

bug-eyed wonder

: What does the new UK Sti weigh ?

Er, a decent set of scales would be of more use for this than a car!

WREXY

It's in the big Aussie heavyweight V8 class now

Reffro

TYPE-UK IMPREZA 2.0 WRX STi SPECIFICATION - 2002

ENGINE
Type
Horizontally opposed four-cylinder, mounted fore and aft; aluminium alloy cylinder block and heads. 4 valves per cylinder, dohc per bank, Active Valve Control system Turbocharger with air-cooled water spray intercooler

Capacity (cc)1,994
Bore x stroke mm 92 x 75
Compression ratio 8.0 : 1

Fuel system
Multi-point fuel injection, computer-controlled engine management system, tumble generator valve (TGV) and 3 catalytic convertors
Fuel tank capacity gal (litres)13.2 (60)
Max power PS (kW) (bhp) DIN 265 (195) (261.5)at 6,000rpm
Max torque lb ft (Nm) DIN 253 (343)at 4,000rpm

TRANSMISSION

Type
Manual 6-speed synchromesh. Full-time AWD, centre differential with viscous coupling. Dry single plate diaphragm clutch. Limited slip ‘suretrac’ rear differential with viscous coupling, limited slip ‘suretrac’ front differential

SUSPENSION

Front
Uprated inverted independent MacPherson strut-type, coil springs, L-shaped transverse link strut, anti-roll bar, forged aluminium lower arms, uprated bushes

Rear
Uprated inverted independent strut-type with trailing arm, dual link, coil springs, anti-roll bar, uprated bushes

STEERING
Type
Rack and pinion with ‘fast-rack’ speed sensitive power assistance with load pressure sensitive valve
Turns lock to lock 2.6

BRAKES
Dual circuit diagonally split hydraulic system with pressure limiting valve and vacuum servo. Brembo ventilated four-pot 330 mm front and 305 mm two-pot rear. 4-sensor, 4-channel ABS

WHEELS 7.5 x 17 ins

TYRES 225/45R17

ELECTRICAL
Battery 12V 48 Ah
Alternator 12V 75 A

DIMENSIONS/WEIGHT

Overall length, in (mm) 173.4 (4405)
width 68.1 (1730)
height 56.7 (1440)
Wheelbase 99.4 (2525)
Track, front 58.7 (1490) rear 58.3 (148)
Turning circle, ft (m)(kerb to kerb) 36.1 (11.0)

Kerb weight, lb (kg) 3241 (1470)
Gross weight, lb (kg) 4145 (1880)
Department of Transport fuel consumption figures, mpg (litres/100 km)
Urban 16.9 (16.7)
Extra Urban 29.7 (9.5)
Combined 23.3 (12.1)
CO2 emissions g/km 290

PERFORMANCE
Maximum speed, mph 148
Acceleration 0-60 mph, sec 5.2

Arron

I'm sure the up in weight is for the extra front lsd ,330 front brakes and 305 rear brakes and the six speed gear box.

SJobson

Ah, but what's the power/weight with a driver on board? Say 75kg, weight of a MY00 goes up to 1305kg, STI VII is 1545kg.

PWR is therefore 164.75 bhp/tonne for MY00 and 168.9 bhp/tonne for STI VII. Goes more in the STI VII's favour if you regularly have more passengers - so drive round with all your mates in the back

iain atkins

Have been looking at the new shape scoobs (to replace my MY97).

UK300 are really coming down in price now, can be had for £23K. But for extra £3K i could have the UK STi with 6-speed, 265(subaru conservative BHP ++ ), 330mm Brembos, and 305mm rear brakes (bigger than front of a UK300), uprated engine, tracker and Thatch 1 alarm.

After speaking to a few tuning companys with a full decat, induction kit etc i could be looking at around 320HP, which with the close gearbox, should give more than a few smiles for only £3K more.

My head's hurting now, need to go have a look at sopme figures.

Any comments from you guys.

Cheers


Iain

Arron

Iain,
GET THE STI.
I've got a mate with a UK300 PPP + EXTRAS and it's an awesome car 290 BHP, but as you say for 3K more you could get an STI with lots sorry I mean loads of bigger and better bits on it and with a few mods get over the 300 BHP barrier if thats what you want.

By the way I hope to get mine next month can't wait.Where in the world are you, we could arrange a meet.