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28 February 2007, 09:38 AM
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ecutek licence
i know we pay so much so we can have the licence off ecutek but does the mapper send this money to them or does he have to pay an annual fee or something. i might be missing the point but it seems to be such an easy con. if you know what i mean
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28 February 2007, 07:56 PM
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Openecu - yes.. the person that maps it keeps hold of the original map and can reload it..
EcuTek - I believe it can be reset to the original map and the licence removed if you no longer want the ecu locked to ecutek. I am not an EcuTek dealer so could be wrong.. but that is my understanding.
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EcuTek - I believe it can be reset to the original map and the licence removed if you no longer want the ecu locked to ecutek. I am not an EcuTek dealer so could be wrong.. but that is my understanding.
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28 February 2007, 09:46 PM
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Remap GB could be extended if enough interest is shown 
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28 February 2007, 10:30 PM
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At the present time I am not an aurthorised advertisor.. so I am restricted in my reply.. and I hope my slightly cheeky and tongue in cheek reply above is taken as such as I felt Mocom was also slightly cheeky but being an AA is allowed to do so.
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28 February 2007, 10:31 PM
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Its all a bit of a con really but fair play to stephen for cracking it all and making them remappable.
What we need is for someone else to sort some software as ecutek seem to have it all to themselves,i remember a couple of years back i found a forum where someone was doing it just that.
Diesel mapping is so cheap compared as there is none of this license stuff and yeah i know they mainly just upload a basic map and ya not paying for the mappers ability.
How much difference is there in maps and could there be a base map that would give a 40/50 bhp safe rise from say 3 psi and correct fuel and timing to a decat and filtered car.
What we need is for someone else to sort some software as ecutek seem to have it all to themselves,i remember a couple of years back i found a forum where someone was doing it just that.
Diesel mapping is so cheap compared as there is none of this license stuff and yeah i know they mainly just upload a basic map and ya not paying for the mappers ability.
How much difference is there in maps and could there be a base map that would give a 40/50 bhp safe rise from say 3 psi and correct fuel and timing to a decat and filtered car.
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28 February 2007, 10:43 PM
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Its all a bit of a con really but fair play to stephen for cacking it all and making them remappable.
What we need is for someone else to sort some software as ecutek seem to have it all to themselves,i remember a couple of years back i found a forum where someone was doing it just that.
Diesel mapping is so cheap compared as there is none of this license stuff and yeah i know they mainly just upload a basic map and ya not paying for the mappers ability.
How much difference is there in maps and could there be a base map that would give a 40/50 bhp safe rise from say 3 psi and correct fuel and timing to a decat and filtered car.
What we need is for someone else to sort some software as ecutek seem to have it all to themselves,i remember a couple of years back i found a forum where someone was doing it just that.
Diesel mapping is so cheap compared as there is none of this license stuff and yeah i know they mainly just upload a basic map and ya not paying for the mappers ability.
How much difference is there in maps and could there be a base map that would give a 40/50 bhp safe rise from say 3 psi and correct fuel and timing to a decat and filtered car.
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28 February 2007, 10:53 PM
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Perhaps those potential customers would like to decide if £399 is too expensive when they look at what's included in the money.......
- VAT
- Workshop - dry workshop to connect datalogging equipment and perhaps carry out any remedial work that may present itself at time of remap
- Insurance - customers vehicles are fully insured both whilst in our possession and for work carried out by Mocom Racing
- Remaps are available Monday through to Sunday and within business hours
- Road Dyno runs both before and after the remap under the same conditions to illustrate exactly where any improvements have been achieved
- A full, non quibble money back guarantee
- And lastly a satisfied customer
28 February 2007, 11:08 PM
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In what way was my reply cheeky?
Perhaps those potential customers would like to decide if £399 is too expensive when they look at what's included in the money.......
Perhaps those potential customers would like to decide if £399 is too expensive when they look at what's included in the money.......
- VAT
- Workshop - dry workshop to connect datalogging equipment and perhaps carry out any remedial work that may present itself at time of remap
- Insurance - customers vehicles are fully insured both whilst in our possession and for work carried out by Mocom Racing
- Remaps are available Monday through to Sunday and within business hours
- Road Dyno runs both before and after the remap under the same conditions to illustrate exactly where any improvements have been achieved
- A full, non quibble money back guarantee
- And lastly a satisfied customer
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28 February 2007, 11:20 PM
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Nothing wrong with an authorised advertiser actually advertising.
Despite what some woud have you believe, not all remaps are equal, regardless of the price. It would be nice to say you get what you pay for, while I know that isn't always the case, it's foolish IMHO to just go for the cheapest solution.
OpenECU is actually more profitable than Ecutek mapping. OpenECU mapping requires no significant investment in software, no license costs, yet mappers are still charging only slight less than the going Ecutek rate. Yet the most established Ecutek mappers are not jumping ship and making an extra £150 per remap, not are we short of happy customers.
Things will evolve I am sure, and somewhere along the line those doing OpenECU mapping and undercutting Ecutek dealers will in turn be undercut by an even larger number of cowboys that give everyone a bad name regardless of their competence or chosen software tools.
There are a lot of hidden gotcha's involved with mapping the OE ecu, I would urge all those considering doing openecu mapping to tread carefully before getting involved with regular customer cars.
I don't map to price.
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Despite what some woud have you believe, not all remaps are equal, regardless of the price. It would be nice to say you get what you pay for, while I know that isn't always the case, it's foolish IMHO to just go for the cheapest solution.
OpenECU is actually more profitable than Ecutek mapping. OpenECU mapping requires no significant investment in software, no license costs, yet mappers are still charging only slight less than the going Ecutek rate. Yet the most established Ecutek mappers are not jumping ship and making an extra £150 per remap, not are we short of happy customers.
Things will evolve I am sure, and somewhere along the line those doing OpenECU mapping and undercutting Ecutek dealers will in turn be undercut by an even larger number of cowboys that give everyone a bad name regardless of their competence or chosen software tools.
There are a lot of hidden gotcha's involved with mapping the OE ecu, I would urge all those considering doing openecu mapping to tread carefully before getting involved with regular customer cars.
I don't map to price.
Paul
At the present time I am not an aurthorised advertisor.. so I am restricted in my reply.. and I hope my slightly cheeky and tongue in cheek reply above is taken as such as I felt Mocom was also slightly cheeky but being an AA is allowed to do so.
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28 February 2007, 11:22 PM
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All, very valid points.
In what way was my reply cheeky?
Perhaps those potential customers would like to decide if £399 is too expensive when they look at what's included in the money.......
Perhaps those potential customers would like to decide if £399 is too expensive when they look at what's included in the money.......
- VAT
- Workshop - dry workshop to connect datalogging equipment and perhaps carry out any remedial work that may present itself at time of remap
- Insurance - customers vehicles are fully insured both whilst in our possession and for work carried out by Mocom Racing
- Remaps are available Monday through to Sunday and within business hours
- Road Dyno runs both before and after the remap under the same conditions to illustrate exactly where any improvements have been achieved
- A full, non quibble money back guarantee
- And lastly a satisfied customer
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Despite what some woud have you believe, not all remaps are equal, regardless of the price. It would be nice to say you get what you pay for, while I know that isn't always the case, it's foolish IMHO to just go for the cheapest solution.
OpenECU is actually more profitable than Ecutek mapping. OpenECU mapping requires no significant investment in software, no license costs, yet mappers are still charging only slight less than the going Ecutek rate. Yet the most established Ecutek mappers are not jumping ship and making an extra £150 per remap, not are we short of happy customers.
OpenECU is actually more profitable than Ecutek mapping. OpenECU mapping requires no significant investment in software, no license costs, yet mappers are still charging only slight less than the going Ecutek rate. Yet the most established Ecutek mappers are not jumping ship and making an extra £150 per remap, not are we short of happy customers.
some however charge a realistic price for the job.. rather than just doing as you suggest and using a price just below ecutek.. whcih is well established, and for good reason.
However there is no gain for the customer to pay for a licence.
Things will evolve I am sure, and somewhere along the line those doing OpenECU mapping and undercutting Ecutek dealers will in turn be undercut by an even larger number of cowboys that give everyone a bad name regardless of their competence or chosen software tools.
I do hope by quoting my post in your reply you were not trying to imply I am a cowboy and that my business has anything to do with cowboys and indians.
I believe we are all singing off the same hyhm sheet and there is no argument to have here..
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01 March 2007, 09:28 AM
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I wasn't suggesting you are a cowboy simon, quite the opposite. Most people started this game in just the same way you have. In just the same way I've come accross some very questionable maps on powerFCs done by "my mate, he's a genuis" or "they don't specialise in jap cars but they know what they're doing" and now I'm sure we will see the same with OE remapping.
I've seen the methods and results of some US tuners and I'm not impressed, very much along the lines of a little more boost and raise the fuel cut, which to my mind isn't a remap. I guess thats why there are somany cheap reflashes available in the US!
Paul
I've seen the methods and results of some US tuners and I'm not impressed, very much along the lines of a little more boost and raise the fuel cut, which to my mind isn't a remap. I guess thats why there are somany cheap reflashes available in the US!
Paul
