hey all,
just bought an 03 wrx and am going to the nurburgring in march, is there any way that you can put harnesses in on the oe fixings?
had a bit of an accident last year and they came in very useful.....
cheers

 

would be intersted in this too as ive got a harness i need to fit too.

 

sorry for the double post,did not think the first 1 went on..

 

Yes You can the 0nly hard one is the drivers seatbelt one I will post a pic
asap

Phil

 

cheers for that, how hard is it and what sort of harness did you use?

 

anybody else?

 

Ask Graham "911", he has both seatbelts in his car

Andy

 

thanks, have sent him a pm.

 

Personally I think it's a dumb idea. There is no need for a harness, and I'd suggest a cheap, ill fitted one will do you more damage than using a normal belt. I've been in a few cars with crappy 2" harnesses fixed to the rear mounting points and they are a joke. The belts will proably stretch enough for your head to hit the wheel.

If you like the idea of feeling locked in, get a G-lock device for a norrmal seat belt.

 

i was in a golf last year that got stuffed on the ring at around 110 mph. and all i can say is thank god for harnesses! and the helmet of course.
we both walked away and only damage i had was bruised shoulders and a bit shook up.
obviously i would fit them as they should be fitted and not just throw them in for looks.
only want them for the ring as going again on 1st of march.

 

" obviously I would fit them as they should be fitted..."

Good man, unfortunately that means that utilising OE mountings is not safe then.

Harness shoulder straps should be mounted at shoulder height, not down at back seat level (plus the rear shelf isn't strong enough), as otherwise they can cause the seat back to collapse in an accident. Hence the harness bars that are available or failing that a cage , either removeable or fixed, with the harness bars set in it at the right height. Would obviously help if you had a fixed back seat too.

However, after saying that, if you have a 4/6 point harness, no cage and you stick the car on its roof (quite possible at the Ring); what happens if the roof comes in? There you are held rigidly upright by the harnesses while the roof comes in - that's why road cars have a diagonal so that you can move (or be moved) and not snap your neck.

Also if you go the whole hog and get a cage, etc, then get it padded and wear a helmet the whole time its in, you really don't want to see what happens to someone who stuffs a car with a cage in and no helmet on - my mate did it and now has a plate in his head where his skull used to be before he headed the cage at 30 mph on a road section.

I have a Safety Devices removable roll cage for my car which comes with integral harness bars. It takes about 40 mins to take out / put in after the first time. It's not as good as a full cage obviously, but it locates the harnesses at the proper height, it would help in a roll, it has two proper fire extinguishers mounted securely on it and, if nothing else, acts as the mother of all rear strut braces!

Sorry to be a bit of a wet blanket , but there you go

 

cant say to wear a helmet enough. the golf had a cage and when we hit the armco head hit the cage and cracked the helmet!
so glad i wore one.