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Old 23 January 2007, 11:29 AM
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Youtube - dyno run

What on earth is going on here.. Did these guys just not read the instructions or is that cell also a wind tunnel
Old 23 January 2007, 11:41 AM
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I dont get it
Old 23 January 2007, 11:45 AM
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Matey boy has put his car on a rolling road with no forced induction of air. If you think about it - those big gaping holes on the front of your car (the radiator and bonnet scope) are there to collect air. The car, when running at full throttle will normally be moving at considerable speed and will consume vast quantities of air. When doing a RR you normally have a bloody great fan or some form of directed air flow so that the engine receives enough. It would appear to be a short run though, so I guess it would be OK? Not sure really - I would be happier with an air flow!

Ah well, it his engine....

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Old 23 January 2007, 11:45 AM
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I'm not sure the boys at Power Engineering are gonna appreciate you calling them idiots
Old 23 January 2007, 11:48 AM
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I'm just amazed at the apparent lack of cooling fans. If they are there, they are miles away from the car with no ducting set up.

Would you expect your engine to last if you drove a flat out run on the road with the radiator and intercooler covered up!

I've watched it a few times and just can't understand what they think they're doing!
Old 23 January 2007, 11:50 AM
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Maybe the topic title is a bit harsh..
Old 23 January 2007, 11:52 AM
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There is a blower its the black thing on the left of the screen

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Old 23 January 2007, 11:58 AM
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I see an extraction fan on the right, and brake tester on the left, but no blower

Can hear a fan somewhere that's hopefully not the extraction one..
Old 23 January 2007, 12:04 PM
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The blower is there 'you idiots'
Old 23 January 2007, 12:06 PM
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Power Engineering are not what they used to be.
Old 23 January 2007, 12:11 PM
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whats the dirty great black thing about 2 foot infront of the car?
Old 23 January 2007, 12:13 PM
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You can see from this video that the big black thing on the left is the funnel, if you could see a little further left you would see a great big fan on the end of it

YouTube - Impreza STi v4 power run 302 bhp
Old 23 January 2007, 12:15 PM
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Originally Posted by RUDDY
whats the dirty great black thing about 2 foot infront of the car?
lol, both said 'black thing' together
Old 23 January 2007, 01:38 PM
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LOL - must admit I didn't see that either I guess I have been used to seeing them a lot closer to the car (well that's my excuse anyway!)
Old 23 January 2007, 02:00 PM
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Spotted, cheers.

Not quite as bad as it initially looked then.
Old 23 January 2007, 02:21 PM
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Originally Posted by RB5SCOTT
You can see from this video that the big black thing on the left is the funnel, if you could see a little further left you would see a great big fan on the end of it

YouTube - Impreza STi v4 power run 302 bhp
This is my freinds ,Tommy car..I feel sure there was sufficient fans there for cooling otherwise Tommy wouldnt of let the car go on the rollers..
Old 23 January 2007, 02:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Mark2wrx
This is my freinds ,Tommy car..I feel sure there was sufficient fans there for cooling otherwise Tommy wouldnt of let the car go on the rollers..
yeeehaaa - I've been 'spotted'!

On the day, PE used a big fan but no ducting. It was run twice and the day was pretty cold so I wasn't worried. Neither were the 30+ others who were there. Admittedly though, I've no idea how powerful that fan was!? I guess you just have to trust the tuners.
Old 23 January 2007, 03:40 PM
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You can quitely clearly hear the fan at about 28secs, even if you miss the big black thing sitting in front of the car.
Old 23 January 2007, 04:44 PM
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My car has run on their rollers a couple of years ago, they have quiet a good st up, drive the car on and then quite a big fan on wheels is placed in front of the car, this has what can only be described as a directional funnel that flows air over the bonnet (As per in real life). That's why the bonnet is closed. if you stand in front of the fan by mistake you know about it. Even stood in the open doorway you can feel the air being sucked in passed you.

Not quite as a good set up at powerstations dyno cell, but still very good
Old 23 January 2007, 06:16 PM
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owned...
Old 23 January 2007, 06:39 PM
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Also if you look in the corner of the room you can see something hanging on the wall which is moving in the wind.
Old 23 January 2007, 07:33 PM
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whats the moral of the story?

be careful when you point fingers at others!!!!
Old 23 January 2007, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by d5hof
whats the moral of the story?

be careful when you point fingers at others!!!!
Also.. with it now starting to snow..

Dont eat Yellow Snow!
Old 23 January 2007, 07:41 PM
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my god my videos are getting about!!

suggest you turn the speakers up if you cant hear that fan!!!
Old 23 January 2007, 10:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Neilo
my god my videos are getting about!!

suggest you turn the speakers up if you cant hear that fan!!!
tell me about it, you can hear the fan loud and clear...as they say 'any idiot can post a thread'
Old 23 January 2007, 10:25 PM
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Originally Posted by d5hof
tell me about it, you can hear the fan loud and clear...as they say 'any idiot can post a thread'

Originally Posted by RB5_245
Can hear a fan somewhere that's hopefully not the extraction one..
Any idiot can start a thread, but apparently not every idiot can read the whole thing.


IMO if you're going to run a car on the dyno like that you may as well just pick a number and quote that to your mates down at the pub.
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Originally Posted by RB5_245
IMO if you're going to run a car on the dyno like that you may as well just pick a number and quote that to your mates down at the pub.
You still don't get it do you?
Give PE a ring tomorrow and point out the error of their ways.
After X many years of operating the RR like that, I'm sure they would be willing to listen to your expertise?
Old 23 January 2007, 11:39 PM
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Originally Posted by RB5_245
Any idiot can start a thread, but apparently not every idiot can read the whole thing.

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That 1st clip in the opening post is my old red Impreza, with me in the Levis t-shirt right at the start of it.
I can confirm that there was a GREAT BIG fan present, as there always is, and Im not sure some of the comments were entirely fair considering you`re only seeing half the picture.
Many many rolling road days have been conducted at PE, with excellent feedback from many many happy customers. That rolling road day in the video was also arranged on Scoobynet, so you can trust that had there been no fan it would have been quickly picked up on



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Old 24 January 2007, 07:29 AM
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I've spent time using that dyno myself, working with Ecutek. The fan set up is just fine, and I would say an apology to Power Engineering for clearly inferring they are "idiots" should be due any time soon.


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